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04-07-2012, 02:57 AM
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Grabner or Bailey + a 12' 2nd or 13' 1st? Maybe add a B/C level prospect? Starting point?

No thanks, and a definite no to a delayed draft pick.

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what Shero would pay has nothing to do with players costing more in trades now than they used to. If Shero wouldn't overpay, then someone else likely will. Perennial 30+ goal scorers are rarely traded anymore regardless of age.
All is I'm saying is he worth less than some people think. If you trade him he would probably bring the best value at the deadline. The Flames should have already did it. That's when you might find a team that will over pay.

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what Shero would pay has nothing to do with players costing more in trades now than they used to. If Shero wouldn't overpay, then someone else likely will. Perennial 30+ goal scorers are rarely traded anymore regardless of age.
Perennial 30+ goal scorers rarely play on cellar dwellar teams in the twighlight years of their careers.

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Perennial 30+ goal scorers rarely play on cellar dwellar teams in the twighlight years of their careers.
Some do, some don't. But Iginla is not on a cellar dweller contrary to what HFboard posters likes to promote.

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04-07-2012, 12:19 PM
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Some do, some don't. But Iginla is not on a cellar dweller contrary to what HFboard posters likes to promote.
He is not exactly on a good team either.

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If Feaster really wants to start a change with this team as its been suggested he has, he has a sit down with Jarome this summer. Gets him to understand that the team isn't getting any better and needs a new direction. Explains that it doesn't have to be without Jarome. However in the interest of the new direction, and in the interest of getting Jarome a shot at a cup, it may be in the interest of everyone involved to move him as a one year rental.

He can bring a good package back which would help the team and give Jarome his shot with a team. But infer that the organization would love to have him back and would love to sign him come July 1st 2013.

Jarome has to realize the team he is on is not that good.

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04-07-2012, 12:52 PM
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If Feaster really wants to start a change with this team as its been suggested he has, he has a sit down with Jarome this summer. Gets him to understand that the team isn't getting any better and needs a new direction. Explains that it doesn't have to be without Jarome. However in the interest of the new direction, and in the interest of getting Jarome a shot at a cup, it may be in the interest of everyone involved to move him as a one year rental.

He can bring a good package back which would help the team and give Jarome his shot with a team. But infer that the organization would love to have him back and would love to sign him come July 1st 2013.

Jarome has to realize the team he is on is not that good.
First of all Feaster has to sit down with the owners and explain to them the team Jarome is on is not that good and let him rebuild them.

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He is not exactly on a good team either.
Still a significant difference between a team fighting for the playoffs and being a bottom feeder

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Let's go blockbuster and make it to STL for Giordano & Iginla

Cole, Stewart, Rattie, Ponich, 1st to CAL

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First of all Feaster has to sit down with the owners and explain to them the team Jarome is on is not that good and let him rebuild them.
If Feaster can get the team leader to believe him, he can take Iggy's opinion with him and it becomes easier to sway the ownership.

"Hey, Iggy thinks its in the best interest of the team and himself to move on for the year. He still wants to come back but he doesn't think this team is one that has a chance at the playoffs."

Having the captain and the GM saying this only makes it easier to convince ownership.

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Let's go blockbuster and make it to STL for Giordano & Iginla

Cole, Stewart, Rattie, Ponich, 1st to CAL
For that package sure but stl needs to add

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For that package sure but stl needs to add
If we could get Rattie and afirst from St. Louis we're already offering to fluff Iggy's inflight pillows. Throw in Cole and Stewart for Giordano and things become a lot closer. The Blues would never offer a package like this which is why the Flames should jump on it.

Definitely wouldn't mind a conditional second or something.

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Grabner or Bailey + a 12' 2nd or 13' 1st? Maybe add a B/C level prospect? Starting point?
You clearly don't pay attention to Snow's comments or actions,if you think he'd deal Grabner,Bailey or a 1st rounder,for a 1 yr rental

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You clearly don't pay attention to Snow's comments or actions,if you think he'd deal Grabner,Bailey or a 1st rounder,for a 1 yr rental
And Iginla sure as hell wouldn't waive his NMC for the Isles.

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According to the "how do the flames get a pick below 14" thread. Iginla is worth the 4th overall pick +. It was not said but I believe the plus they want ends with "Tavares" LOL

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According to the "how do the flames get a pick below 14" thread. Iginla is worth the 4th overall pick +. It was not said but I believe the plus they want ends with "Tavares" LOL
why do you post of you are just going to make things up? But an undrafted player (even at 4th overall) is not worth Iginla. And don't go making things up saying we want the plus to be Tavares, it was my post you are talking about and Tavares never crossed my mind for Iginla, but truth be told neither did the Islanders as a possible destination. A neutral fan suggested that swap of Iginla for the 4th overall and I simply stated it would take more.

Which it would. Easily.

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I know whose post it was.. the Tavares being the + was obvious sarcasm. But come on man there IS NO CHANCE IN HELL Iginla is worth the 4th overall pick. Go read my post in the other thread and see why.

Reverse the situation here. If the flames had the 4th pick would they trade it for ONE year of Iginla?

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Ignila may well have significant back issues. There are lot of hard miles on this guy and he did not look much good during the latter part of the year.

I think you may be looking at Ryan Smyth type situation. This is a real buyer beware situation.

Everyone has tremendous respect for Ignila but recently he has only played upper level hockey in spurts. I don't know how many GMs are willing to give up some important younger players for the kind of short term benefit Ignila might provide.

Maybe a mid to late round first and mid-level regular player. Any thing beyond this given the huge cap hit is unrealistic speculation IMO.

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why do you post of you are just going to make things up? But an undrafted player (even at 4th overall) is not worth Iginla. And don't go making things up saying we want the plus to be Tavares, it was my post you are talking about and Tavares never crossed my mind for Iginla, but truth be told neither did the Islanders as a possible destination. A neutral fan suggested that swap of Iginla for the 4th overall and I simply stated it would take more.

Which it would. Easily.
Agreed, aging players are not going to bring that return.

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And Iginla sure as hell wouldn't waive his NMC for the Isles.
I've pointed that out in other threads.

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If Iginla gets traded, it's going to be to a team like Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit, etc. A team that he can try win a Cup with. He isn`t gonig to waive his NTC just so the Flames can get a Top 5 pick.

If Iginla gets traded Flames will get a mid to late 1st round pick, a good prospect and a good young player. Somewhere close to that package. With all the rumors Philly was looking at trading JVR this year I could see a package similar to Philly's 1st, JVR and another young player or prospect.

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If Iginla gets traded, it's going to be to a team like Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit, etc. A team that he can try win a Cup with. He isn`t gonig to waive his NTC just so the Flames can get a Top 5 pick.

If Iginla gets traded Flames will get a mid to late 1st round pick, a good prospect and a good young player. Somewhere close to that package. With all the rumors Philly was looking at trading JVR this year I could see a package similar to Philly's 1st, JVR and another young player or prospect.
Good luck on that. He's got 1 to 3 years left in him. He's going to yield one mid level first, or a second and a mid level player. No one is going to pay that for a player on his decline.

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Good luck on that. He's got 1 to 3 years left in him. He's going to yield one mid level first, or a second and a mid level player. No one is going to pay that for a player on his decline.
Iginla has 1 to 3 years left? Do you even know anything about Iginla or do you just read the garbage people spout on here? Iginla has not missed a game in over 5 years and is always the most fit player in camp, ALWAYS. And you think that he will just magically break down? Iginla has gone on the record saying he wants to play at least 4 or 5 more years.

As for your suggested return, you think he will get a lesser return than Dustin Penner got? Really? Do you even pay attention to the way teams overpay for big name players?

And you do know that player on the "decline" was 6th in NHL scoring just last year right? and just recorded his 11th straight 30 goal season.

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Ignila may well have significant back issues. There are lot of hard miles on this guy and he did not look much good during the latter part of the year.

I think you may be looking at Ryan Smyth type situation. This is a real buyer beware situation.

Everyone has tremendous respect for Ignila but recently he has only played upper level hockey in spurts. I don't know how many GMs are willing to give up some important younger players for the kind of short term benefit Ignila might provide.

Maybe a mid to late round first and mid-level regular player. Any thing beyond this given the huge cap hit is unrealistic speculation IMO.
I love how people just make things up and spout their half brained opinions without actually seeing what happens around the NHL

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