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03-27-2012, 04:25 PM
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I'm curious what some think is a realistic expectation for point totals next year. Is around a point per game reasonable?
That would be reasonable IMO. Anywhere from 55-80 points. I'd be surprised if he beats Tavares's 15 year old point totals but it could happen.

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McDavid vs Mackinnon - The next Ovechkin vs Crosby ??
McDavid seems better than MacKinnon already and Crosby/Ovie were identical till the 2010 Olympics (Not to mention these guys likely aren't as good as those two) so I don't think so.

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03-27-2012, 05:19 PM
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That would be reasonable IMO. Anywhere from 55-80 points. I'd be surprised if he beats Tavares's 15 year old point totals but it could happen.



McDavid seems better than MacKinnon already and Crosby/Ovie were identical till the 2010 Olympics (Not to mention these guys likely aren't as good as those two) so I don't think so.
myself I think Mackinnon and McDavid are pretty much equale as to talent saw both play live both are different style players, Mackinnon is more attacker, Mackinnon is a little faster on his skates his acceleration is like no player I have seen before...McDavid is a little smarter, more control the play able to playmaker better, he has great ability to make something out of nothing...either like you said are not in the crosby territory.


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03-27-2012, 08:02 PM
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Great to hear, now we are just hoping he reports. Even if he is not willing to play in Erie (but I have heard is) it is a no brainer to pick him with the compensation rule on non reporting first round picks.
I'm sure he will. I wouldn't even worry about having to trade him/not reporting.

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That would be reasonable IMO. Anywhere from 55-80 points. I'd be surprised if he beats Tavares's 15 year old point totals but it could happen.

McDavid seems better than MacKinnon already and Crosby/Ovie were identical till the 2010 Olympics (Not to mention these guys likely aren't as good as those two) so I don't think so.
I like the range you gave him, seems reasonable. I wouldn't be too surprised to see McDavid come close to JT's rookie year of 77 points (depending on what Erie does going forward). What would shock me if he gets anywhere near JT's 45 goals.

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myself I think Mackinnon and McDavid are pretty much equale as to talent saw both play live both are different style players, Mackinnon is more attacker, Mackinnon is a little faster on his skates his acceleration is like no player I have seen before...McDavid is a little smarter, more control the play able to playmaker better, he has great ability to make something out of nothing...either like you said are not in the crosby territory.
I agree with you for the most part on your assessments of the players, but disagree with them being equal. After getting to see a lot of them this season (even though they're at different stages development wise); I think McDavid will be a better player at the age MacKinnon is now. McDavid's hockey sense/IQ is off the charts, IMO.

It's obviously really early for both of these players, and they're both incredibly talent.

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03-27-2012, 09:39 PM
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[QUOTE=Pick Six;46829223]I'm sure he will. I wouldn't even worry about having to trade him/not reporting.

Everyone on this site with credibility have all said he should report. I cant wait for April 7th and the start of next season.

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03-27-2012, 10:50 PM
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I'm sure he will. I wouldn't even worry about having to trade him/not reporting.

Everyone on this site with credibility have all said he should report. I cant wait for April 7th and the start of next season.
I think the most intriguing thing about Erie is what they do besides drafting McDavid (import pick, 2nd round, trades etc). They can build a pretty impressive core, building towards the 2014 and 2015 seasons.

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03-27-2012, 11:00 PM
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My official guess on McDavid's stat line next year.

GP: 63
G: 37
A: 42
P: 79

By the way when does his official stat pack get released?

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03-27-2012, 11:37 PM
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I think the most intriguing thing about Erie is what they do besides drafting McDavid (import pick, 2nd round, trades etc). They can build a pretty impressive core, building towards the 2014 and 2015 seasons.
I think they go with a high end goalie in the import draft. They have had success with that in recent years with Janus and Sadikov. I think they need to trade some of those other draft picks for a veteran d-man or a 2nd line forward. They have 5 picks in the top 55 in this years draft.

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03-28-2012, 08:50 AM
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My official guess on McDavid's stat line next year.

GP: 63
G: 37
A: 42
P: 79

By the way when does his official stat pack get released?
I don't think he'll have that many goals. If he does, I'll be very happy and impressed. I think he'll go

GP: 62
G: 28
A: 53
P: 81

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03-28-2012, 09:11 AM
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I am a huge fan of Connor McDavid and co. But eventually one of these super hyped kids are going to bust like Calabrese and Anthony and MacAusland and Kuchin and Randell and McFarland... etc.

I'm just waiting for the "next one" to bust.

Hope it isn't McDavid though. I love new superstars.
They bust at least as often as they pan out...remember Steven Anthony and Angelo Esposito?

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03-28-2012, 10:45 AM
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They bust at least as often as they pan out...remember Steven Anthony and Angelo Esposito?
Yeah I mentioned Anthony in my post... Others too.

This happens often.

I'm just waiting for the first "Exceptional Status" kid to bust.

Not that I want him to, but it really is kind of inevitable.

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I'm very confident Mcdavid will break the 100 point barrier more than once in the OHL. Im guessing he will be in the 75-90 point range next year depending on who his line-mates are. He needs a sniper with speed to bring out the best in his playmaking abilites. Mcdavid stunned his team-mates alot this year with passes that they had no idea were going to make it to them. He would be devasting from the half wall in the OHL right now on the PP.

IMO, McDavid needs to work on his shot velocity. Thats the only thing he needs help with. I agree with the above statements about being surprised if he breaks 45 goals like Tavares did. He scored alot this year but he wont get the breakaways he got this year. Although his speed will get him some for sure. He is just 15 though and will most likely grow/get stronger. I'd say 85% of his goals were from breakaways or 2 on 1's inside 10 feet. He rarely shot from the outside.


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03-28-2012, 11:11 AM
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He has concussion problems, hopefully he doesnt get another bad one, he's already had 2 serious ones.

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He has concussion problems, hopefully he doesnt get another bad one, he's already had 2 serious ones.

Source?
I guess anything is possible, even a stupid fluke elbow like what happended to Crosby. However, in all of the games I have seen him play, he is rarely touched, let alone hit, very heads up!

Let's hope for a long and prosperous career - great kid! And no, he won't be a bust, guaranteed!

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03-28-2012, 01:22 PM
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I'm sure he will. I wouldn't even worry about having to trade him/not reporting.



I like the range you gave him, seems reasonable. I wouldn't be too surprised to see McDavid come close to JT's rookie year of 77 points (depending on what Erie does going forward). What would shock me if he gets anywhere near JT's 45 goals.



I agree with you for the most part on your assessments of the players, but disagree with them being equal. After getting to see a lot of them this season (even though they're at different stages development wise); I think McDavid will be a better player at the age MacKinnon is now. McDavid's hockey sense/IQ is off the charts, IMO.

It's obviously really early for both of these players, and they're both incredibly talent.
you know what, now that I think about it, McDavid IMO is better than Mackinnon, he is smarter than Mackinnon which I think will make him better so I do agree with you that I was wrong he probably will be better...

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03-31-2012, 12:38 AM
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Great article in today's paper about Mcdavid. Seems that everything is coming together.


http://www.goerie.com/article/201203...medium=twitter

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http://tsn.ca/chl/story/?id=392402

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No surprise here

http://ottershockey.com/article/otte...t-overall-pick

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So he never gets hit, but he's had two concussions? Which is it? If he's had two serious head injuries, then the exceptional status thing is a pretty risky move on the part of his camp. Not sure of the criteria, and maybe he's just incredibly skilled and elusive, but size wise he ain't breakin records. He's not Ekblad size wise. Just seems a stretch to me. He's gonna get hit folks.

No one can say if he'll be a bust, but the physical aspect of the game levels the playing field for many a prospect. If the above is true, he's entering shark infested waters having already been bitten twice. Of the top 20 prospects for the 2012 NHL draft, around half have had concussions that kept them out (or should have kept them out) of the game while playing Jr hockey. That seems pretty significant to me.

I'm sure he'll be great, but what's the rush??

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Connor McDavid, Erie Otters-OHL, 2015 nhl draft eligible

Does anyone know anything about this kid other than he was granted exceptional player status to th oil allowing hime to join at 15?

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Lots on him here.

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“There’s no other way to say it, the kid’s good,” said one OHL scout who has watched McDavid perform his magic in the Greater Toronto Hockey League close to 30 times this season. “Skill wise he’s off the charts, you just can’t take your eyes off him.” - OHL Scout

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Man, he is putting on a show at the All-State Canadians game

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It's McDavid vs. Barzal basically, those two are in a class of their own, it's scary how good they are.

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First half of the period, Barzal was dominant. Second half, McDavid is dominating.

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Anyone else notice how they said he's going to play for Sarnia?

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