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The poll also shows the Tories continue to lead the Wildrose by a significant margin in Edmonton, but are lagging behind the Wildrose in Calgary and the rest of the province, where more than half of decided voters are giving their support to the Wildrose.
"If the election splits this way, there will be a real north-south divide in the legislature and that's going to cause some problems," said Leger vice-president Ian Large.
In Edmonton, the Tories lead the Wildrose 37 per cent to 25 per cent, while in Calgary the Wildrose leads the Tories 47 per cent to 34 per cent.
I say we split the province in North Alberta (or Democratic Republic of North Alberta) and South Alberta. The DMZ will be around Red Deer.
Wildrose party wants to create a dividend fund. The media nicknamed this fund Danielle bucks or Danielle dollars.
When the provincial government has a surplus a certain percentage of the surplus gets placed into the dividend fund. Once this fund reaches 1 billion $ the government will send cheques with the estimated value of 300$ to every man women and child that lives in Alberta.
So she's saying I'll pay you if the price of oil keeps rising.
I can't understand what the hell is going on in the Wildrose war room, but the spending promises are now past the point of unrealistic and are borderline insane.
I can't understand what the hell is going on in the Wildrose war room, but the spending promises are now past the point of unrealistic and are borderline insane.
My only sense is that they're trying to control the news cycle for the next week up to the debate where they could cement this thing.
So you think Redford will jump to Ottawa if she loses?
Tough to say; she's young enough and has had a short enough taste of power that one would think that we wouldn't have seen the last of her. At the same time, there is nothing saying that -should she lose the election- she wouldn't dedicate herself to being an effective leader of the opposition and attempt to return the PCs to power.
I think the more pressing question is if the CPC wants Redford. Most of the people in the CPC supported the Canadian Alliance from which the Wildrose Alliance came from.
Tough to say; she's young enough and has had a short enough taste of power that one would think that we wouldn't have seen the last of her. At the same time, there is nothing saying that -should she lose the election- she wouldn't dedicate herself to being an effective leader of the opposition and attempt to return the PCs to power.
I think it is a black mark to lose against the Wildrose. It means you are the face of the PC failure and elitism(so called.)
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I think the more pressing question is if the CPC wants Redford. Most of the people in the CPC supported the Canadian Alliance from which the Wildrose Alliance came from.
She can go to the Liberal Party. She is more centrist anyway.
I think if Redford loses this election she'll be turfed out as PC leader. I mean how can you take a party that has had such a strong history as the Alberta PC's and not only have them potentially lose government but lose government by close to 25 or 30 seats).
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I think the more pressing question is if the CPC wants Redford. Most of the people in the CPC supported the Canadian Alliance from which the Wildrose Alliance came from.
They already chose Rob Anders over her when there was a candidate challenge for Calgary West.
They already chose Rob Anders over her when there was a candidate challenge for Calgary West.
This is misleading. IIRC, party rules would make it very difficult for Redford to strip a sitting MP of his nomination. It's not like it was a simple vote and Anders received 50% + 1.
And FWIW, sounds like Alison Redford and Stephen Harper go way back.
This is misleading. IIRC, party rules would make it very difficult for Redford to strip a sitting MP of his nomination. It's not like it was a simple vote and Anders received 50% + 1.
And FWIW, sounds like Alison Redford and Stephen Harper go way back.
The nomination challenge in question was eight years ago. What does changing the rules have to do with the CPC's relationship with Alberta's provincial parties in 2012?
I think the more pressing question is if the CPC wants Redford. Most of the people in the CPC supported the Canadian Alliance from which the Wildrose Alliance came from.
Wildrose was a product of the merger of the Wildrose Party and the Alberta Alliance, which had existed before as fringe parties.
Its only under Smith that it has gained any traction. People expected a WA breakthrough last election and it didn´t happen.
The nomination challenge in question was eight years ago. What does changing the rules have to do with the CPC's relationship with Alberta's provincial parties in 2012?
My point was if Redford could go to Ottawa if she loses. One the calgary seats is held by anders and I was wondering if someone could challenge him.
My point was if Redford could go to Ottawa if she loses. One the calgary seats is held by anders and I was wondering if someone could challenge him.
Personally I wouldn't at all be surprised if Smith and Redford are CPC colleagues one day. Redford speaks French and would be a shoe-in for a Cabinet post (might even do well if she ran in a leadership race).
With Anders, I don't think anyone will challenge him for the nomination, but you get the sense that he is one screw up away from being booted from caucus.
Personally I wouldn't at all be surprised if Smith and Redford are CPC colleagues one day. Redford speaks French and would be a shoe-in for a Cabinet post (might even do well if she ran in a leadership race).
With Anders, I don't think anyone will challenge him for the nomination, but you get the sense that he is one screw up away from being booted from caucus.
Redford is bright and young, she can solidify an Ontario base IMO.
I think Smith wins and becomes the next Klein type long time premier.
I don't know why Anders is still around. I really don't. There must be better people out there.
The Alberta government received less than 20% of revenue generated by the oilsands since 1997 — short of its original target of 35% — a new report says.
In the University of Alberta’s Parkland Institute study, completed in mid-March, the Edmonton-based think-tank concluded the oil and gas industry has raked in $260-billion in pre-tax profits since 1986, while the public received less than $25-billion — less than 6% of the total value.
“Albertans have never received more than 20% of the rent in the tarsands, and since 1997 have averaged only 9%,”
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If the 35% revenue target set in the 1970s by former Progressive Conservative premier Peter Lougheed had been met, the institute estimates Alberta would have pocketed an extra $195-billion between 1971 and 2010.
And we have to choose between a party that wants to keep royalties low and another that wants to make them lower.
