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04-08-2012, 01:20 PM
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Wings have recalled forward Chris Conner from Grand Rapids.

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Very good move for the Wings' depth going into the playoffs. Similar to Helm, he has speed and doesn't stop competing. He creates chances solely with his pace. He also has experience, which we need.

Emmerton won't get the job done and this move proves that the Wings don't trust him completely with that job. He doesn't PK, doesn't play on the PP and has no assets that standout.

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Great news. Now just get Helm back and get rid of Emmerton and the bottom six looks much better.

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Awesome move Kenny.

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Very good move for the Wings' depth going into the playoffs. Similar to Helm, he has speed and doesn't stop competing. He creates chances solely with his pace. He also has experience, which we need.

Emmerton won't get the job done and this move proves that the Wings don't trust him completely with that job. He doesn't PK, doesn't play on the PP and has no assets that standout.
Emmerton actually did play big PK mins yesterday. With that being said I like the addition of Conner, he brings speed and a great work ethic to the big club. So I'm happy for him.

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If i were this guy i would go get a try out with another team next year. Maybe they will value his tenacity and grit more than this organization.

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I can't believe it took them this long to finally come to the conclusion that Conner is better than Emmerton. I guess they wanted to give the kid as long a look as they possibly could, but man, the writing was on the wall in regards to his future back in December (IE he HAS NONE).

So assuming Helm isn't back by Game 1, who's going to play center on the 4th line? Miller? Move Flip down to the 3rd, Abdelkader down to the 4th? Or just stick with Emmerton anyway? Some interesting decisions on the way here.

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I can't believe it took them this long to finally come to the conclusion that Conner is better than Emmerton. I guess they wanted to give the kid as long a look as they possibly could, but man, the writing was on the wall in regards to his future back in December (IE he HAS NONE).

So assuming Helm isn't back by Game 1, who's going to play center on the 4th line? Miller? Move Flip down to the 3rd, Abdelkader down to the 4th? Or just stick with Emmerton anyway? Some interesting decisions on the way here.
I think it was some waivers-issues?

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If i were this guy i would go get a try out with another team next year. Maybe they will value his tenacity and grit more than this organization.
I think it's pretty obvious that Conner wasn't used a whole lot this year because of the risk of losing him, or someone else to waivers. He could have a bottom six role on this team next year and I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I think they used him just fine.

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Here's what I would do when Helm is back.

Gus-Pav-Mule
Huds-Z-Fil
Miller-Helm-Bert
Cleary-Gator-Homer.
(Mursak, Emmerton, Conner)

-I normally hate Abdelkader as a C but he's still better than Emmerton.
-I'd like to fit Conner in somewhere but realistically Babs will not sit Gator and Cleary, barring injury.

While Helm is still out though maybe put Conner in for Emmerton give Fil his on line and makes Abs 4th line C.

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I think it was some waivers-issues?
Yeah, probably. I guess I could understand not wanting to expose Emmerton to waivers (even though it was pretty much predicted from the start he wouldn't be anything more than a plug at best).

They've basically had 70 games or so (around the amount he's played) to look him over and analyze what he brings, and it's as clear as day that he brings a whole lot of nothing. He's slow, soft, weak on draws, doesn't kill penalties... basically he's the antithesis of what a good 4th line center should be. If he's actually playing in Game 1 - especially now with Conner being called up - then I just don't know anymore.

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I think it was some waivers-issues?
Maybe. I do not know those rules. Fugu does, I guess.
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Here's what I would do when Helm is back.

Gus-Pav-Mule
Huds-Z-Fil
Miller-Helm-Bert
Cleary-Gator-Homer.
(Mursak, Emmerton, Conner)

-I normally hate Abdelkader as a C but he's still better than Emmerton.
-I'd like to fit Conner in somewhere but realistically Babs will not sit Gator and Cleary, barring injury.

While Helm is still out though maybe put Conner in for Emmerton give Fil his on line and makes Abs 4th line C.
Conner has to get a spot.

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Conner has to get a spot.
Ya but who sits then? Miller?

I cannot see Babs' sitting Homer or his BFFs Abdelkader and Cleary.

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Ya but who sits then? Miller?

I cannot see Babs' sitting Homer or his BFFs Abdelkader and Cleary.
Cleary sits because of the knee.

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Cleary sits because of the knee.

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Cleary sits because of the knee.
I seriously hope so. Conner has incredible speed we could definitely use in the absence of Helm.

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Very good move for the Wings' depth going into the playoffs. Similar to Helm, he has speed and doesn't stop competing. He creates chances solely with his pace. He also has experience, which we need.

Emmerton won't get the job done and this move proves that the Wings don't trust him completely with that job. He doesn't PK, doesn't play on the PP and has no assets that standout.
Emmerton kills penalties. Granted it looks like his PK time's been lowered but he's still out there mostly with Abby I've noticed. That said, Connor needs to be up. Ever since the first shift I saw him play I saw something in him. He just creates opportunities or at the very least makes himself a nightmare for the other team to play against. That's exactly what we need.

The snobbiest fans of all have to be the internet marks who think they know everything, and Emmerton takes way too much grief around here. But he is better on paper than he is on the ice. Not by as much as we think but still. Connor is the opposite. He's better on the ice, infinitely better, than he is on paper. It's not about looking pretty or scaring opponents with resumes. It's about play on the ice. And Nashville should and will be more scared of the Helm/Connor combo than Emmerton/any other bottom six player combo.

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Emmerton kills penalties. Granted it looks like his PK time's been lowered but he's still out there mostly with Abby I've noticed. That said, Connor needs to be up. Ever since the first shift I saw him play I saw something in him. He just creates opportunities or at the very least makes himself a nightmare for the other team to play against. That's exactly what we need.

The snobbiest fans of all have to be the internet marks who think they know everything, and Emmerton takes way too much grief around here. But he is better on paper than he is on the ice. Not by as much as we think but still. Connor is the opposite. He's better on the ice, infinitely better, than he is on paper. It's not about looking pretty or scaring opponents with resumes. It's about play on the ice. And Nashville should and will be more scared of the Helm/Connor combo than Emmerton/any other bottom six player combo.
Emmerton has been on the penalty kill lately. But when Helm comes back, he is out of the lineup. Abdelkader will be the 4th line center and Helm will eat Cory's PK time.

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Because of the lack of centre depth without Helm in the line up I would imagine the Wings are going to go with the following line up for Game 1:
Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Franzen
Filppula - Zetterberg - Hudler
Cleary - Abdelkader - Miller
Nyquist - Emmerton - Holmstrom
Connor
Personally, I'd rather see Bertuzzi drop down onto the 3rd line and elevate Nyquist to line one (sliding Cleary/Miller to line four). But who knows, Babcock will probably juggle during the game.

Once Helm returns I would be shocked if the Wings don't go with:
Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Franzen
Filppula - Zetterberg - Hudler
Miller - Helm - Cleary
Connor - Abdelkader - Holmstrom
With Nyquist being the injury replacement. Obviously I'd like to see Nyquist in the line up but he's just not that effective in the bottom six. He's still young and hasn't gotten his man strength yet to grind. If he can fit in the top six than I'd say he's in. I just don't think he's experienced enough for Babcock to give that slot to him

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Once Helm returns I would be shocked if the Wings don't go with:
Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Franzen
Filppula - Zetterberg - Hudler
Miller - Helm - Cleary
Connor - Abdelkader - Holmstrom
With Nyquist being the injury replacement. Obviously I'd like to see Nyquist in the line up but he's just not that effective in the bottom six. He's still young and hasn't gotten his man strength yet to grind. If he can fit in the top six than I'd say he's in. I just don't think he's experienced enough for Babcock to give that slot to him
I would like to see this. And if/when Cleary has to sit Ny could be plugged in there.

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I would like to see this. And if/when Cleary has to sit Ny could be plugged in there.
Exactly. To me it will all depend on the health of Cleary and Bertuzzi who seem to be the most banged up (aside from a recovering Helm). For me, Nyquist has to play in the top 6 or he isn't quite as useful. If Cleary or Bertuzzi can't go you plug Nyquist in.

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Emmerton actually did play big PK mins yesterday. With that being said I like the addition of Conner, he brings speed and a great work ethic to the big club. So I'm happy for him.
Emmerton completely blew coverage on Sharp's goal. For the third time in four important games, he decided that watching the puck was a better idea than was being aware of to whom the puck might be passed.

I think the kid is just not very smart.

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I can't believe it took them this long to finally come to the conclusion that Conner is better than Emmerton. I guess they wanted to give the kid as long a look as they possibly could, but man, the writing was on the wall in regards to his future back in December (IE he HAS NONE).
How often need it be said that Emmerton is a center and Connor is not? Short of pulling down Filppula or Zetterberg to center the 3rd line and bumping Abdelkader to the 4th, the 4th line would lack a center were Emmerton to be removed from the lineup. It's true that Abdelkader could have been bumped to the 4th line while Helm was in the lineup, but remember that the line of 20 - 43 - 8 was very effective for a long stretch.

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