Bowman did his job. He kept the backup goalie. You make it sound like he signed Arnason to be our 1st line Center
He took possibly the biggest weakness of the team this year and stamped it with his approval for next year before even seeing 1 playoff game. Now, I think Crawford will be fine but I don't know that to be a fact and furthermore, this season has provided more than enough evidence that we need someone capable of starting and pushing Crawford to the backup role if he is not performing. This team needed a 1B, not low end backup that should be playing 10 games or less. Even Emery's biggest supporters admit that in this thread.
I get loving everything the Hawks do no matter how stupid, but there has to be limit with the homerism, there really does.
There goes coldsteelonice again, didn't you say we would miss the playoffs, Emery wouldn't have anymore than 2 wins and would be waived, when he was signed last year? How did that work out?
emery doesn't play in the playoffs, he's the last goalie we need to be worried about.
Everything I said rings true given the facts. B-Mo was your big 2nd line Center acquistion, goaltending was horrible most of the year and he resigns them. He's making Milbury look good.
I have to agree with Coldice on this one. Emery is rusty due to inactivity in game conditions, so essentially the entire season boils down to the performance of an inconsistent goalie and no real back-up in case of injury. Yikes.
I said this team lacks direction from the GM and I stand by it. I never said we would miss the playoffs but I did say Bowman didn't prepare the team to suceed, whether that meant making the playoffs or doing anything in them. We'll see, obviously I want (and expected) us to compete for the Cup.
I don't understand the move the more i look at it, He is a competant back up but that is substantial amount for a backup goalie, i prefer the detroit method, spend as little as possible on goalies and spend the rest on your defense.
I don't understand the move the more i look at it, He is a competant back up but that is substantial amount for a backup goalie, i prefer the detroit method, spend as little as possible on goalies and spend the rest on your defense.
The worst part is that you can have it both ways. There are some good free agent goalies this offseason, many significantly better than Emery and a couple are going to have a hard time finding a place. You could have easily convinced one to sign here with a Cup contender and outside chance at the starting job for a pretty cheap rate. Bowman must be friends with these guys or something because he's just shooting himself and the franchise in the face by not seeing what's on the market. Nobody signed Emery last year and he is now coming off the worst season of his career. He would have been there in September if something else didn't work out.
Everything I said rings true given the facts. B-Mo was your big 2nd line Center acquistion, goaltending was horrible most of the year and he resigns them. He's making Milbury look good.
He traded a non-prospect for him. Morrison was a guy he took a flier on, not a big acquistion
Again, what does Emery have to do with playoff hockey?
Crawford is the goalie we need to be concerned about, not our back up goalie, who filled in great, and was what a back up is supposed to be. (A goalie filling in for games where our starter needs rest, and gives our team a chance to win on those nights.)
Emery is fine as a back up, we don't need Brian Elliot and we don't need some other crappy goalie that will be a UFA this year.
Again, what does Emery have to do with playoff hockey?
Crawford is the goalie we need to be concerned about, not our back up goalie, who filled in great, and was what a back up is supposed to be. (A goalie filling in for games where our starter needs rest, and gives our team a chance to win on those nights.)
Emery is fine as a back up, we don't need Brian Elliot and we don't need some other crappy goalie that will be a UFA this year.
the problem is you could use that money somewhere else, I have no problem with emery, he did a fine job as a back up its just quite a high cap hit for a goalie you realisticly only want to play maybe 20 games a year?
Again take the Detroit way of thinking, dont pay for goalies pay for defense....21 straight years of playoffs count it
Again, what does Emery have to do with playoff hockey?
Crawford is the goalie we need to be concerned about, not our back up goalie, who filled in great, and was what a back up is supposed to be. (A goalie filling in for games where our starter needs rest, and gives our team a chance to win on those nights.)
Emery is fine as a back up, we don't need Brian Elliot and we don't need some other crappy goalie that will be a UFA this year.
so much fail in this post
1. Emery never filled in great
2. I agree that the Hawks don't need a .93% Goalie when we can have Emery for almost the same money
3. In the situation the Hawks are, Emery is the problem. We have CC and we have hopes for him. We are stuck with him. since we know that CC is a big question mark, we would need a goalie that isn't only a backup
4. Crappy UFA Goalie? Crappy like Vokoun or Harding?
1. Emery never filled in great
2. I agree that the Hawks don't need a .93% Goalie when we can have Emery for almost the same money
3. In the situation the Hawks are, Emery is the problem. We have CC and we have hopes for him. We are stuck with him. since we know that CC is a big question mark, we would need a goalie that isn't only a backup
4. Crappy UFA Goalie? Crappy like Vokoun or Harding?
If you sign a 1 million dollar goalie you're just hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Emery is only 29 still fairly young for a goalie. I know people think he's 38 given his injuries but maybe he just needed this full year back to recover from his medical situation and can recover to a nice career...
This move is fine. If Crawford/Emery is our goaltending tandem then that's cheap at least, 3.8 combined allowing us to spend on other assets (like say building a super puck possession team that doesn't ask their goalie to make super saves).
If there's a problem it's with Crawford not being a suitable #1. Emery does his job as a backup well. I'll take the 15-9-4 record he gave us.
I think some of you are going to be shocked at the sheer amount of significantly better goalies than Emery that sign for similar or not much more than he got from the Hawks. If you hate it now, you'll hate it more come opening night. If you love it or like it now, your opinion will change. Unless you are just going to say "How was Bowman supposed to know all of these guys would be available for around the same price?" In that case, you're just one of Bowman's henchmen.
1. Emery never filled in great
2. I agree that the Hawks don't need a .93% Goalie when we can have Emery for almost the same money
3. In the situation the Hawks are, Emery is the problem. We have CC and we have hopes for him. We are stuck with him. since we know that CC is a big question mark, we would need a goalie that isn't only a backup
4. Crappy UFA Goalie? Crappy like Vokoun or Harding?
Emery filled in great, 15-9-4 is pretty decent for a back up.
Elliot is not available, and we didnt finish far behind St Louis, so we dont need Elliot, we need Halak instead of Crawford.
Emery isnt the problem, Crawford was..we need a new starting goalie, not a new back up.
Yes, crappy like Vokoun ...and Harding wont sign for anything around Emery.
I agree, they could of waited and signed an unknown talent for more money. But, our back up goalie isn't going to make or break the season...just like this year.
I think some of you are going to be shocked at the sheer amount of significantly better goalies than Emery that sign for similar or not much more than he got from the Hawks. If you hate it now, you'll hate it more come opening night. If you love it or like it now, your opinion will change. Unless you are just going to say "How was Bowman supposed to know all of these guys would be available for around the same price?" In that case, you're just one of Bowman's henchmen.
I said it at the beginning of this year that the backup goalie won't change this teams positioning much, and it didnt. I highly doubt my opinion will change.
I think some of you are going to be shocked at the sheer amount of significantly better goalies than Emery that sign for similar or not much more than he got from the Hawks. If you hate it now, you'll hate it more come opening night. If you love it or like it now, your opinion will change. Unless you are just going to say "How was Bowman supposed to know all of these guys would be available for around the same price?" In that case, you're just one of Bowman's henchmen.
-Vokoun showed everyone this year in Washington that he would NOT accept being a backup goalie. He took less money for a chance to play with a cup contending team and be the starter. I really dont think he'd sign with Chicago and accept getting anything less than 45 starts, especially not the 30ish starts that Emery got this year.
-Harding has given me no reason to believe he wouldn't take another backup/1A 1B role but i would be surprised if he didn't want to go make #1 Goalie money this year and be a #1 goalie on a good team.
I dont like the timing of the Emery signing. I think Bowman should have waited until July 1st and talked to Harding and Vokoun to see if the could do a 1A 1B system with Crawford. Thats the only thing i dont like about it. If Bowman weighed his options this summer and still ended up with Emery i wouldn't be very upset at all.
I said it at the beginning of this year that the backup goalie won't change this teams positioning much, and it didnt. I highly doubt my opinion will change.
The league is LOADED with good goalies. Save the worst backups for Columbus. Save the Biron's, Harding's and possibly Vokoun for the Hawks. This team is made perfectly to bring a guy like that in on a good deal. Everyone saw how Crawford played this year. Cash that in by bringing in a really good goalie and hopefully have both performing at a high level and finish at the top of the standings like Vancouver and St. Louis did, not 6th. Nope, not in the golden era of Blackhawk hockey. I saw the Lalime's, Passmore's, etc. We're done with that, that's supposed to be long over.
The league is LOADED with good goalies. Save the worst backups for Columbus. Save the Biron's, Harding's and possibly Vokoun for the Hawks. This team is made perfectly to bring a guy like that in on a good deal. Everyone saw how Crawford played this year. Cash that in by bringing in a really good goalie and hopefully have both performing at a high level and finish at the top of the standings like Vancouver and St. Louis did, not 6th. Nope, not in the golden era of Blackhawk hockey. I saw the Lalime's, Passmore's, etc. We're done with that, that's supposed to be long over.
The difference between all those goalies and Emery is not enough to worry me. Vokoun won't sign to be a back up, is 37 and had a ton of injuries this year, no.
Back ups are back ups, Emery is better than Passmore, and wasn't even the worst backup in the league, while proving to be a great teammate who can fill in when needed and give our team a chance to win, like he did in 19 of his 29 starts at the very least most of which in not your typical back up role.
Who's to say Biron can play 30 games a year and be efficient (Biron had a 904sv% on a much better defensive team.)
Harding has struggled down the stretch, you want to overpay for him and for multiple years on hopes that can play better than Crawford which is only slightly better than Emery?
If there was only one good backup in the league, my expectations would be for that man to be in uniform for the Hawks. You're not gonna sell me that Emery was the best option for the Hawks because we all know he wasn't.
If there was only one good backup in the league, my expectations would be for that man to be in uniform for the Hawks. You're not gonna sell me that Emery was the best option for the Hawks because we all know he wasn't.
A backup goalie should be judged by how well they play within the team's system. Emery's record has been pretty good overall for the Hawks. He doesn't win you games but he doesn't lose you very many either. If we wait until July 1st we're going against the market. Who knows what a crazy team like Toronto or Tampa Bay might offer to Harding. Even Emery could end up gone if we don't act quick. He's a decent backup with a good track record.
I don't understand the move the more i look at it, He is a competant back up but that is substantial amount for a backup goalie, i prefer the detroit method, spend as little as possible on goalies and spend the rest on your defense.
As long as we have Bowman's running the show here in Chicago we will never have a big dollar goalie. I agree with this philosophy as well.
You can always change goalies like your underwear every two to three weeks.
The issue again is not emery it's the price tag you can get those numbers from a backup for less money
It's a pretty low cap hit actually. Any UFA backup goalie will get at least that. Unless you want to promote Salak then re-signing Emery for 1 year is not a bad option. It's 1 year.
