Spoken like someone who hasn't been on HF since their team was last in the playoffs. (Just in case this is interpreted badly, I'm in no way calling you a bandwagoner).
I only really started browsing Hf about two years ago, and we weren't in the playoffs then so your post is somewhat true . But bandwagoner I am not, I had to endure those years of mediocrity where we sold off the team and had scrubs like Orszagh on the team .
Honestly, I wish I could enter a playoff thread and have some friendly banter and ribbing and such. I realize fans are very loyal to their teams and stick up for them which I love, but this also tends to bring out the nasty in people, which then spreads to everyone else on the board. By the end we just have a massive ***** fest and those aren't very fun to read.
I haven't seen many Sharks fans give the Blues any credit during the season, after a win. There was always a litany of excuses. I think a lot of Blues fans (myself included) just got sick of it. So...we're having a little fun with some of the most ridiculous ones that Sharks fans put out there. If you need to, review the Sharks GDT from this season's series.
The 'excuses' of which you speak were all said in our private GDT. So you got tired of reading them in OUR GDT? Simple solution: Don't come to the Sharks board and read it.
I've given the Blues a ton of praise this season. I called them making the playoffs as a high seed, I've spent hours of my life in Karlsson/Pietrangelo threads arguing for Petro, I've spent hours of my life in various threads defensing Backes, Berglund, Perron, etc. I've always made a point to give the Blues credit for their awesome season and I have always argued that the Blues are the best team in the league. I really love the Blues team. Hell, Sharks posters know me as the 'Pietrangelo fangirl'. So I get excited about a series and I want to talk good hockey with Blues posters, and I come here, and all I see are Blues fans mocking comments made in frustration in a Sharks GDT that Blues fans have absolutely no right to come in and complain about.
But the only reason the Blues will win is because of "puck luck". Crappy ice in St.Louis. The refs will give the Blues too many 5 on3's. Petro only scored 51 pts because of his use of the stanchions. The Blues are going to trap, trap, trap and trap some more. Blues can only win if it's a 1-0 game, which of course, they will score their only goal on a 5 on 3. The Sharks announcers will call the Blues dirty cheapshot artists and everytime a sharks player gets checked, they will say its a boarding major, how could the refs have missed that and whichever Blues player should get suspended for the next 35 games. The Blues goalies are only good because of their system and they have nothing but 4th line grinders and none of their top six would crack the Sharks lineup.
I think that about covers it.
Yeah, if the Blues win it won't be legit right
Although I will say this season when the Sharks lost, the Sharks fan I know never said anything like that. He felt disappointed by his Sharks and was not placing the blame on anyone else.
I only really started browsing Hf about two years ago, and we weren't in the playoffs then so your post is somewhat true . But bandwagoner I am not, I had to endure those years of mediocrity where we sold off the team and had scrubs like Orszagh on the team .
Honestly, I wish I could enter a playoff thread and have some friendly banter and ribbing and such. I realize fans are very loyal to their teams and stick up for them which I love, but this also tends to bring out the nasty in people, which then spreads to everyone else on the board. By the end we just have a massive ***** fest and those aren't very fun to read.
It doesn't have to be like that if every decides to take the high road. Obviously, every fanbase has its idiots, but we made it through the Kings-Sharks series last season without killing each other, so it's possible.
The 'excuses' of which you speak were all said in our private GDT. So you got tired of reading them in OUR GDT? Simple solution: Don't come to the Sharks board and read it.
I've given the Blues a ton of praise this season. I called them making the playoffs as a high seed, I've spent hours of my life in Karlsson/Pietrangelo threads arguing for Petro, I've spent hours of my life in various threads defensing Backes, Berglund, Perron, etc. I've always made a point to give the Blues credit for their awesome season and I have always argued that the Blues are the best team in the league. I really love the Blues team. Hell, Sharks posters know me as the 'Pietrangelo fangirl'. So I get excited about a series and I want to talk good hockey with Blues posters, and I come here, and all I see are Blues fans mocking comments made in frustration in a Sharks GDT that Blues fans have absolutely no right to come in and complain about.
Forgive me for being a little mad.
Hey, I'll talk good hockey with ya!
I'm married to a Sharks fan (as I always talk about on here, so I hope that's not getting too old ha ha) who is not always a good sport, but we both agreed as to avoid divorce papers (ha ha... OK maybe that's a stretch) neither of us are going to gloat or ***** about the other team. In fact, we've grown to support each others teams quite a lot and give respect. I hope we can keep it up
The 'excuses' of which you speak were all said in our private GDT. So you got tired of reading them in OUR GDT? Simple solution: Don't come to the Sharks board and read it.
I've given the Blues a ton of praise this season. I called them making the playoffs as a high seed, I've spent hours of my life in Karlsson/Pietrangelo threads arguing for Petro, I've spent hours of my life in various threads defensing Backes, Berglund, Perron, etc. I've always made a point to give the Blues credit for their awesome season and I have always argued that the Blues are the best team in the league. I really love the Blues team. Hell, Sharks posters know me as the 'Pietrangelo fangirl'. So I get excited about a series and I want to talk good hockey with Blues posters, and I come here, and all I see are Blues fans mocking comments made in frustration in a Sharks GDT that Blues fans have absolutely no right to come in and complain about.
Forgive me for being a little mad.
Yeah, but you haven't purchased a Bernie Federko throwback jersey yet, so save it.
I haven't seen many Sharks fans give the Blues any credit during the season, after a win. There was always a litany of excuses. I think a lot of Blues fans (myself included) just got sick of it. So...we're having a little fun with some of the most ridiculous ones that Sharks fans put out there. If you need to, review the Sharks GDT from this season's series.
Yeah because heat of the moment posts are the best way to figure out.
I'm married to a Sharks fan (as I always talk about on here, so I hope that's not getting too old ha ha) who is not always a good sport, but we both agreed as to avoid divorce papers (ha ha... OK maybe that's a stretch) neither of us are going to gloat or ***** about the other team. In fact, we've grown to support each others teams quite a lot and give respect. I hope we can keep it up
Good luck with the spouse, I can attest that it's very hard to deal with family members who are less than supportive of your choice in team.
And the sad part is that there really isn't much hockey to talk here. The Blues are plain and simple the much better team and if they don't beat the Sharks, it'll be extremely embarrassing.
Good luck with the spouse, I can attest that it's very hard to deal with family members who are less than supportive of your choice in team.
And the sad part is that there really isn't much hockey to talk here. The Blues are plain and simple the much better team and if they don't beat the Sharks, it'll be extremely embarrassing.
No kidding, I will want to hang my head because while the ole' spouse may be supportive, my father in law will NOT! I purposely avoid him at all costs when these 2 teams play. He's a sore loser, but a really bad winner - and he is that way at EVERYthing. When Thornton hit Perron, he sent me a 5 page word document, it was so dramatic, making it out to be like Thornton was being burned at the stake. Now, I will say I never thought ill of Thornton for that, and both guys were really civil and friendly about it; I thought that was cool. But if my FIL comes to the house for a playoff game I will leave, that's how bad he is!
Embarrassing - I agree also because everyone still throws 2000 up in my face, and I still read a lot about it. A repeat will just make me want to crawl under a rock. But I do think the Sharks have a damn good chance to win, they have the experience.
I haven't seen many Sharks fans give the Blues any credit during the season, after a win. There was always a litany of excuses. I think a lot of Blues fans (myself included) just got sick of it. So...we're having a little fun with some of the most ridiculous ones that Sharks fans put out there. If you need to, review the Sharks GDT from this season's series.
Really? You're judging us based on what was said in our own GDT?
The 'excuses' of which you speak were all said in our private GDT. So you got tired of reading them in OUR GDT? Simple solution: Don't come to the Sharks board and read it.
I've given the Blues a ton of praise this season. I called them making the playoffs as a high seed, I've spent hours of my life in Karlsson/Pietrangelo threads arguing for Petro, I've spent hours of my life in various threads defensing Backes, Berglund, Perron, etc. I've always made a point to give the Blues credit for their awesome season and I have always argued that the Blues are the best team in the league. I really love the Blues team. Hell, Sharks posters know me as the 'Pietrangelo fangirl'. So I get excited about a series and I want to talk good hockey with Blues posters, and I come here, and all I see are Blues fans mocking comments made in frustration in a Sharks GDT that Blues fans have absolutely no right to come in and complain about.
Forgive me for being a little mad.
I'll let it drop. I referred you to the Sharks GDT because its easiest to find there, but posters were even coming onto the Blues thread with this garbage. I know because I had to try and clean up the mess.
Blues fans have had to endure people devaluing the team's accomplishments this season as just a product of "Hitchcock's system" with no intelligent discussion about what that even means. Of more often, attributing the success to some imagined "trap" that the Blues run. I am not surprised seeing that ignorance from Eastern fans who haven't seen the Blues play. But from fans of a Western team who have watched several games, I'd like SOME acknowledgement that the Blues were onto something special this season.
So....I think a lot of us (Blues posters) are probably more defensive about it than we need to be. I think in the long playoff window the Sharks are enjoying, maybe there isn't much empathy for how it feels to finally have a break-through season and then have people continually diminishing it.
But let me switch to a hockey subject:
The Sharks have two talent-heavy top lines. The Blues effectively shut those lines down in the regular season with Backes' line vs the top line, and a combination of other lines vs the 2nd line for the Sharks. What will the Sharks do differently to counter the strong checking pressure that seemed to take Thornton's line out of the game during the season?
Our bottom six is vastly improved since we last met, and if needed the coach can Put out winnik-Thornton-pavelski as shutdown. I doubt that happens just because you guys don't really play an offensive game.
Our third/fourth lines have become interchangeable regularly splitting ice time. Hopefully we don't see Colin white out there and everyone but Douglas Murray will be a good to great puck mover.
Braun/burns will hopefully provide a very dynamic x factor in our entries. Whether you call it a trap or not the neutral zone gets stood up by your team quite well, and having two of our d be able to essentially skate around or through that and set up our forecheck should prove valuable.
If we play clueless like we did in the season this matchup won't last long. If your team is the one that lost to the yotes then I'd be worried if I were you.
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I'll let it drop. I referred you to the Sharks GDT because its easiest to find there, but posters were even coming onto the Blues thread with this garbage. I know because I had to try and clean up the mess.
Blues fans have had to endure people devaluing the team's accomplishments this season as just a product of "Hitchcock's system" with no intelligent discussion about what that even means. Of more often, attributing the success to some imagined "trap" that the Blues run. I am not surprised seeing that ignorance from Eastern fans who haven't seen the Blues play. But from fans of a Western team who have watched several games, I'd like SOME acknowledgement that the Blues were onto something special this season.
So....I think a lot of us (Blues posters) are probably more defensive about it than we need to be. I think in the long playoff window the Sharks are enjoying, maybe there isn't much empathy for how it feels to finally have a break-through season and then have people continually diminishing it.
But let me switch to a hockey subject:
The Sharks have two talent-heavy top lines. The Blues effectively shut those lines down in the regular season with Backes' line vs the top line, and a combination of other lines vs the 2nd line for the Sharks. What will the Sharks do differently to counter the strong checking pressure that seemed to take Thornton's line out of the game during the season?
A good majority of sharks fans were able to admit defeat and were mostly honest in their teams shortcomings. Believe me if you read the Blues GDT, everytime we lose it's because of some weird ref conspiracy theory. It's actually embarrassing sometimes. But it still gets said and I'll poke fun at them too.
Maybe next time I'll put the sarcasam face, but I thought the post was full of it and didn't need to be taken seriously.
Also saying "we" shouldn't read the other teams GDT because of what the other team says about their opponent...well that's what this site is for, to see what other teams fans are saying about their team and what they say about the others. I use it as a barometer for fans pulse and expectations and the like. I will continue to lurk other boards, I usually don't comment in them because it usually starts a shart storm, and frankly it's not worth it. I'm always curious what other people's opinions are, and that's why I frequent this site. So I'm not going to change that.
BTW, I will lurk the Sharks boards (even when the Blues arent playing them) just because the GDT's are EPIC. I always get a good laugh from them, not even counting the comments, just the awesome first post(thread creator). Seriously they are the best! The one when Huskins first came back to San Jose was priceless. So I actually enjoy the Sharks board. But some of the reasons they lost/Blues won are worth sharing and Blues fans think they were hilarious and for the most part were not taken seriously. Actually they became an inside joke whenever we won a game, it had to be one of those reasons. It's funny and there should be more humor between fans and hopefully a little less hate.
Humor wins, and the sharks boards are full of it, that's a small reason why I'm glad that the Blues will be playing the Sharks this postseason.
I can't wait, and I hope that we all can be civil towards one another, but I doubt it, sports are emotional and most diehards will get upset and get carried away. Such is life I guess. Here's to a great series and some awesome GDT's!
If I were the opposing team vs the Blues, my gameplan would include:
Forecheck and hit the PMD on the Blues as much as possible (Pietro, Shattenkirk and Russell). Force their partners to be the ones bringing the puck up. That will slow down the Blues' transition to the offensive zone.
On defense, take away the pass to the point and allow the Blues to skate in circles along the boards. The Blues still have to prove that they have the offensive finishing talent to make bang-bang plays from the side-wall to the net.
As for how to successfully attack in the offensive zone, frankly I don't have any great ideas. Maybe just try to draw penalties and execute on the PP. However the Blues' PK has been dynamite lately, so that's a tall order.
There was a large number of Sharks fans in our GDT
You'll have to link to it, because at quick glance in the game that was 3-0, there were 1 or two Sharks fans that were complaining in your GDT/post game thread.
You'll have to link to it, because at quick glance in the game that was 3-0, there were 1 or two Sharks fans that were complaining in your GDT/post game thread.
Chances are the posts were deleted, just like most of the blues posters posts were deleted in our GDTs. I didn't look at the Blues thread so this may be the case for them as well but for some reason the Blues v Sharks GDT on the GDT had more opposing fan invaders than other teams we faced.
I only made the comment I did because the comment about needing the Blues to make some physical play to get the Sharks angry struck me as ironic. I could have just as easily mentioned Owen Nolan sucker punching Geoff Courtnall into retirement, one of the cheapest things I've ever seen any athlete do in my life. Courtnall still has serious effects from it, and it happened in 1998. I was there, day after Thanksgiving. Maybe that was the flavor of something physical the Blues could do to a Shark to get them angry and into the game CloweMe was talking about. However, since you guys brought it up, it seems all my mentioning these things that players on your team did to Blues players has Sharks HF fans stirred up and angry now. What makes you guys angry about me remembering these things and referring to them? Do you think I should apologize for remembering?
While I won't defend the cheapshot by Nolan, or deny that he gave Coutnall a concussion. It was an elbow from Brian Berard almost a year later that forced Courtnal to retire, when he received a second concussion.
I think the biggest part of the Hitchcock system is the forecheck. When we are on, our breakouts are awesom and usually take your forecheckers out of the game, but more likely your coach will beat McClellan in the matchup game with changes and we will allow ourselves to be swarmed.
If he comes prepared, our coach can limit Murray/demers and make sure the puck movers are on the ice more often.
If niemi could play behind the net I think we could beat your forecheck more often, but he's a time bomb back there.
Chances are the posts were deleted, just like most of the blues posters posts were deleted in our GDTs. I didn't look at the Blues thread so this may be the case for them as well but for some reason the Blues v Sharks GDT on the GDT had more opposing fan invaders than other teams we faced.
I believe they are deleted, I remember one of our mods talking about taking them down before I ever read them. I'm not brave enough to post in another GDT
As for what CloweMe suggested, it's totally ambiguous and you can interpret it in whatever positive spin you want to put on it but my references in response to what you guys brought up are totally in the same vein. Those kind of hits would "get the Sharks upset," right?
I was simply suggesting that I hoped something happened early in the game to get the Sharks emotionally invested in the game, instead of tip-toeing through the 1st period like they have in all 4 of the previous games vs the Blues.
I believe they are deleted, I remember one of our mods talking about taking them down before I ever read them. I'm not brave enough to post in another GDT
Ya ours were deleted as well. I don't usually read opposing GDTs unless it's a close exciting game with no real controversial things that happen. Usually if I want to read controversy I can just pop over to the main boards and not look like I'm invading fans' privacy by reading their GDT.
(Just in case this is interpreted badly, I'm in no way calling you a bandwagoner).
. But bandwagoner I am not, I had to endure those years of mediocrity where we sold off the team and had scrubs like Orszagh on the team 
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