It isn't definitely that Strome will work out at center or at all. Maybe he is better at wing.
Maybe, but Galchenyuk is far from a guarantee himself. I don't see why they would want to take a chance on another centre when they could make a safer pick while addressing a bigger team need.
I suppose it's possible the Isles could see Galchenyuk as the best player available and decide to address their needs on D at a later time but I think they would be taking an unnecessary risk.
Maybe, but Galchenyuk is far from a guarantee himself. I don't see why they would want to take a chance on another centre when they could make a safer pick while addressing a bigger team need.
I suppose it's possible the Isles could see Galchenyuk as the best player available and decide to address their needs on D at a later time but I think they would be taking an unnecessary risk.
I'm not saying they should do it or that it would be the most beneficial to them. All I'm saying is that nothing that the NYI would do would surprise me. Last year I thought they would take Hamilton for sure.
I just thought it was odd that Leafs and Ducks fans were debating who would get him, when it wouldn't matter if the Islanders took him.
I'm not saying they should do it or that it would be the most beneficial to them. All I'm saying is that nothing that the NYI would do would surprise me. Last year I thought they would take Hamilton for sure.
I just thought it was odd that Leafs and Ducks fans were debating who would get him, when it wouldn't matter if the Islanders took him.
That's true for a lot of guys though. Heck if the Oilers take Grigorenko and Montreal decides they'd rather have a guy like Galchenyuk then even the Islanders wouldn't have their shot at him. Kind of hard to speculate if you limit yourself by what could possibly happen.
Nothing really wrong with the Ducks and Leafs fans debating who might get him since it's possible for him to be there at 5/6.
Why wouldn't Burke pick Galchenyuk? Everything about him seems to be exactly what Burke would want. By the way, I'm not a man of faith.
That's what we thought about Tyler Myers. Instead we traded down, passing Erik Karlsson, and picked Jake Gardiner. No slight against JG. Love the kid and he's really nice in person, but I'd take Myers or Karlsson over him for the Ducks without thinking twice.
You can't ever trust Burke to do what you'd "expect" him to do. Many a FA, rumored trade block player, player on waivers just came and went after much speculation our part thinking BB would do whatever he could to get those guys.
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That's true for a lot of guys though. Heck if the Oilers take Grigorenko and Montreal decides they'd rather have a guy like Galchenyuk then even the Islanders wouldn't have their shot at him. Kind of hard to speculate if you limit yourself by what could possibly happen.
Nothing really wrong with the Ducks and Leafs fans debating who might get him since it's possible for him to be there at 5/6.
It's also possible that neither of us takes Galchenyuk. I wouldn't be shocked at all.
That's true for a lot of guys though. Heck if the Oilers take Grigorenko and Montreal decides they'd rather have a guy like Galchenyuk then even the Islanders wouldn't have their shot at him. Kind of hard to speculate if you limit yourself by what could possibly happen.
Nothing really wrong with the Ducks and Leafs fans debating who might get him since it's possible for him to be there at 5/6.
Nothing wrong with it. I just originally said I was surprised I didn't see the Islanders mentioned. I'm also very well aware the if for some reason the Oilers decide to take Grigorenko that the Canadiens will most likely take Galchenyuk.
I'll giggle like a school girl if Burke takes Faksa, Forsberg, Trouba, or Reinhart before Galchenyuk.
For a fanbase that hates their GM so much, you guys sure do have a lot of faith in Burke.
I can see Burke taking Forsberg or Trouba in the top 5, Faksa/Reinhart would be a reach at #5 though (If Burke and co covet them, he will probably trade down and grab a 2nd or a 3rd as well).
I can see Burke taking Forsberg or Trouba in the top 5, Faksa/Reinhart would be a reach at #5 though (If Burke and co covet them, he will probably trade down and grab a 2nd or a 3rd as well).
Don't need a D. Trouba is also a tier below Dumba and Murphy who might be available there.
Draftsite.com's newest ranking. Might be the worst top 10 I've seen so far but it works for the Ducks. (before you go thinking they had us winning the draft, past Subban with #36, every pick was full retard for the Ducks...also stupid that they had TML passing on Subban for Sissons. Made no sense to me. TML needs some G, BAD)
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I can see Burke taking Forsberg or Trouba in the top 5, Faksa/Reinhart would be a reach at #5 though (If Burke and co covet them, he will probably trade down and grab a 2nd or a 3rd as well).
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Don't need a D. Trouba is also a tier below Dumba and Murphy who might be available there.
It will either be Gally or Forsberg book it.
Trouba isn't a whole tier below. Not saying TML will draft him, but you can't really count him out either. Knowing Burke, Trouba is his kind of prospect. Just my view. It would make the most sense to take Galchenyuk, but if I know Burke the way I think I do, you can't always trust him to do the most logical thing.
One thing for instance, yes, you don't need D...now. But Burke's biggest thing is that defense wins championships. You can't say that just because you don't need it, Burke won't take it. A blueline core of Phaneuf, Gardiner, Liles, and Trouba/Dumba/Murray/Reinhart has gotta sound attractive to Burkie.
Though as I said, it's perfectly fine to think that he'll go with Gally. You wouldn't be wrong. One thing can be said that Burke loves guys like Faksa too. In Burke's eyes Faksa is probably a Sami Pahlsson type if Sami Pahlsson was offensively gifted. Burke COULD (but probably won't) see that as a jackpot of a pick. A Mikko Koivu type guy.
Just saying. Nothing is 100% certain with Mr. Truculence.
No guarantee that Galchenyuk even makes it past #2 really. He LIKELY will but who knows what any NHL team's lists look like really. Teams in the lottery picks should NEVER draft for need. Take the best player available. Sure. Edmonton desperately needs a D but they may think Gally (or Grigs, or Forsberg, or - insert another player jere) is a better option than any D available.
It should also be noted that while Galchenyuk has played predominantly at C that he's also played LW and could play there at the next level
Edmonton and the Islanders are the wildcard here as they could both use D but being a lottery pick gives them the chance to pick the BPA and that could very well be a forward.
If Edmonton opts for a D (which many feel the should) then its likely Grigorenko/Galchenyuk goes to MTL. NO ONE on these boards can say for certain which player the Habs have rated higher but it'd be ballsy to pass on Grigorenko who excelled in the Q (and I'm saying that as a huge Galchenyuk fan).
Leafs, you'll likely be looking at one of Forsberg, Gally or Faksa
Ducks, you'll likely be taking the best dman available unless Forsberg/Faksa/other F is rated that much higher than Trouba/Rielly/Ceci/Reinhart/Dumba(if he falls).
Let the debate continue until June 22nd
Scouts have to be absolutely furious at USA Hockey's decision to not extend an invite to Galchenyuk for the U18 Worlds. Seeing him there would have certainly answered a few more questions
The guy who makes the call for the Habs (Timmins) called Yakupov and Galchenyuk ''high end talent'' on Saturday when asked about the top part of the draft, he didn't have any other compliment for the other players even though he enumerated them (Grigo, Dumba, Murray and Reinhart. He said there were 2 Swedes without naming them). In the past, we've also heard/read talk that he loves Galchenyuk.
The Habs have drafted a few players recently who have strong hockey bloodlines (Tinordi, Gallagher, Beaulieu, Bennett, Johnson) as their father/uncle either played a high level of hockey, coached it or is real close to a hockey club (Gallagher's dad is the Giants strength coach) and Galchenyuk clearly has strong bloodlines even though his dad did not play in the NHL.
He also showed tremendous work ethic in the gym to recover so quickly from the injury, which is another thing Timmins values.
If I was a betting man, and IF Timmins is given full autonomy on making this pick (not a lock with a new GM coming in, and if Roy is the coach you have to think Grigorenko becomes the pick), I'd bet Galchenyuk will be the Habs pick at #3 or #4 if he's available, IF the tests show he is fully recovered from the knee injury.
Trouba isn't a whole tier below. Not saying TML will draft him, but you can't really count him out either. Knowing Burke, Trouba is his kind of prospect. Just my view. It would make the most sense to take Galchenyuk, but if I know Burke the way I think I do, you can't always trust him to do the most logical thing.
One thing for instance, yes, you don't need D...now. But Burke's biggest thing is that defense wins championships. You can't say that just because you don't need it, Burke won't take it. A blueline core of Phaneuf, Gardiner, Liles, and Trouba/Dumba/Murray/Reinhart has gotta sound attractive to Burkie.
Though as I said, it's perfectly fine to think that he'll go with Gally. You wouldn't be wrong. One thing can be said that Burke loves guys like Faksa too. In Burke's eyes Faksa is probably a Sami Pahlsson type if Sami Pahlsson was offensively gifted. Burke COULD (but probably won't) see that as a jackpot of a pick. A Mikko Koivu type guy.
Just saying. Nothing is 100% certain with Mr. Truculence.
Is anything certain with any GM? I mean, Columbus could very well trade out of the #1, as some rumours have suggested, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least. After that, who knows what happens. CSB just came out with their final rankings having Murray ahead of Grigorenko (which isn't the 'HF consensus'), who says they don't take him?
All I'm trying to say is of course we don't know what Burke will do, just like we don't know what any GM will do. I don't know about other posters, but I haven't talked to any of these GMs to get a feel on what they like in a prospect. Drafts always have a few surprises and I don't expect this one to be any different.
Draftsite.com's newest ranking. Might be the worst top 10 I've seen so far but it works for the Ducks. (before you go thinking they had us winning the draft, past Subban with #36, every pick was full retard for the Ducks...also stupid that they had TML passing on Subban for Sissons. Made no sense to me. TML needs some G, BAD)
Trouba isn't a whole tier below. Not saying TML will draft him, but you can't really count him out either. Knowing Burke, Trouba is his kind of prospect. Just my view. It would make the most sense to take Galchenyuk, but if I know Burke the way I think I do, you can't always trust him to do the most logical thing.
One thing for instance, yes, you don't need D...now. But Burke's biggest thing is that defense wins championships. You can't say that just because you don't need it, Burke won't take it. A blueline core of Phaneuf, Gardiner, Liles, and Trouba/Dumba/Murray/Reinhart has gotta sound attractive to Burkie.
Though as I said, it's perfectly fine to think that he'll go with Gally. You wouldn't be wrong. One thing can be said that Burke loves guys like Faksa too. In Burke's eyes Faksa is probably a Sami Pahlsson type if Sami Pahlsson was offensively gifted. Burke COULD (but probably won't) see that as a jackpot of a pick. A Mikko Koivu type guy.
Just saying. Nothing is 100% certain with Mr. Truculence.
"Mr. Truculence" is also the guy who took Kadri over Kassian in 09.
He listens to his scouts like any good GM does, And if we take a D-man at #5 then so be it. But considering for the last 4 years(Since Sundin left) fans and media have been crying out for a #1 center and he's been scouring the trade and UFA market for one, I can't see him passing on any one of Grigorenko, Galchenyuk or Forsberg(if you consider him a C as well).
No guarantee that Galchenyuk even makes it past #2 really. He LIKELY will but who knows what any NHL team's lists look like really. Teams in the lottery picks should NEVER draft for need. Take the best player available. Sure. Edmonton desperately needs a D but they may think Gally (or Grigs, or Forsberg, or - insert another player jere) is a better option than any D available.
It should also be noted that while Galchenyuk has played predominantly at C that he's also played LW and could play there at the next level
Edmonton and the Islanders are the wildcard here as they could both use D but being a lottery pick gives them the chance to pick the BPA and that could very well be a forward.
If Edmonton opts for a D (which many feel the should) then its likely Grigorenko/Galchenyuk goes to MTL. NO ONE on these boards can say for certain which player the Habs have rated higher but it'd be ballsy to pass on Grigorenko who excelled in the Q (and I'm saying that as a huge Galchenyuk fan).
Leafs, you'll likely be looking at one of Forsberg, Gally or Faksa
Ducks, you'll likely be taking the best dman available unless Forsberg/Faksa/other F is rated that much higher than Trouba/Rielly/Ceci/Reinhart/Dumba(if he falls).
Let the debate continue until June 22nd
Scouts have to be absolutely furious at USA Hockey's decision to not extend an invite to Galchenyuk for the U18 Worlds. Seeing him there would have certainly answered a few more questions
I agree that Edmonton can very well pick Gally. Can't see Montreal doing it. But Anaheim? Obviously I can't speak for Murray and co but we need center depth and if he's there we'll look at Sbisa and Beauchemin and be satisified enough to pass on the physical d. We already have Rakell. We don't need Faksa unless we somehow don't have Trouba, Dumba, Gally, Forsberg, or Reinhart available.
My hope is we either win the lottery or the order stays exactly the same and the draft goes like this
CBJ: Yakupov
EDM: Murray
MTL: Grigorenko
NYI: Dumba/Rielly
TOR: Forsberg (since he's listed as a C I could see this happening)
ANA: Galchenyuk
MIN: Dumba/Rielly
CAR: Faksa
WPG: Trouba/Reinhart/Collberg/Teravainen
The guy who makes the call for the Habs (Timmins) called Yakupov and Galchenyuk ''high end talent'' on Saturday when asked about the top part of the draft
