I'm not claiming anything, this team has tanked because the results over the last few years show that this team has tanked. There is no conspiracy, those are the actual real world results. You can double check on NHL.com if you want.
LMFAO. Rosy world where you live eh? The results show failure by management to achieve their stated goals.
It's called hope. At this moment Leaf fans have very little if any.
There is lots of hope in many fans, just because you said there isn't doesn't mean it's true. The future is bright imo, we're getting another lottery pick and have lots of young players in the farm and on the team to look forward to for many years.
There is lots of hope in many fans, just because you said there isn't doesn't mean it's true. The future is bright imo, we're getting another lottery pick and have lots of young players in the farm and on the team to look forward to for many years.
Maybe. I don't think our farm is anything special but one never knows. I hope I'm wrong.
The fact that Many leaf fans still feel hopeless is indicative of how much suffering they've gone through. As a guy who just got on the Leafs bandwagon this year, i honestly feel bad for the lot of you. No fan base deserves the humiliation they've gone through for the past decade.
That said, this team has plenty of potential, just look at the marlies.
Looks like a pretty good tanking team to me. Right up there with every bottom feeder the last few years.
Right you are in that Leafs have been right there among the bottom feeders in on ice results, which clearly demonstrates Burke's inability to ice a competitive hockey team, despite trying hard and spending millions on what he believed were improvements.
Unless of course one believes he purposely acquired Phil Kessel, Joffrey Lupul and Dion Phaneuf and others, with an intentional desired attempt to make the team worse.
PS. That wasn't 2 X 5th overall but rather 1 X 5th and 1 X 9th instead.
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Clearly demonstrates Burke's inability to ice a competitive hockey team despite trying hard and spending millions on what he believed was improvements.
Unless of course one believes he purposely acquired Phil Kessel, Joffrey Lupul and Dion Phaneuf and others, with an intentional desired attempt to make the team worse.
Burke bit off more than he could chew, he thought he could build a playoff team while at the same time REBUILD the prospect pool AND ensure a stanley cup contender in 5+ years. He tried to do this with a coach that does not share his philosophy of hockey, so he built a team for him with what he could. Frankly i'm glad wilsons gone and Carlyle is in, we finally have a coach and GM that are on the same page in terms of playstyle and players, especially if we can tap into the Marlies for burkie/carlyle type players
Right you are in that Leafs have been right there among the bottom feeders in on ice results, which clearly demonstrates Burke's inability to ice a competitive hockey team, despite trying hard and spending millions on what he believed were improvements.
Unless of course one believes he purposely acquired Phil Kessel, Joffrey Lupul and Dion Phaneuf and others, with an intentional desired attempt to make the team worse.
PS. That wasn't 2 X 5th overall but rather 1 X 5th and 1 X 9th instead.
Burke acquired those pieces because you have to make those deals if players like that become available for what we had to give up. No one said we were going to be cup winners instantly or stop rebuilding outright because those trades were made.
How come Edmonton gets praise for failing year after year around here, what have they accomplished other then drafting high? Lots of holes to fill over there last time I checked.
PS We're picking top 5 (lottery) again this year, possibly higher. You stand corrected.
Looks like a pretty good tanking team to me. Right up there with every bottom feeder the last few years.
Who the heck tanks without their top picks? The Leafs didn't tank. They unintentionally sucked. There is a BIG difference.
"I'm not interested ... in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done," said Burke. "Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn't have to be five years because it wasn't in Anaheim"
Burke must be some new wave tanking savant, because only a genius could come up with a plan to attempt to finish as low as possible for the draft benefit, and knowing that it only benefits Boston, because he already traded away Leafs own future 2010 and 2011 draft 1st round picks ahead of time. Burke was extremely successful in his tanking pursuit as he gave Boston the 2nd and 32nd overall picks in 2010 and the 9th overall in 2011.
Burke felt the need to add a 30+ goal scorer to his immediate line-up to help assist him to finish near the league bottom in the standings for 3 consecutive years.
Simply brilliant !!!
"I like the group that finished the year, I think just on internal improvement we will be better. I think we will be good enough with this group and a couple additions to say in training camp that the playoffs are a reasonable goal."
"I like the group that finished the year, I think just on internal improvement we will be better. I think we will be good enough with this group and a couple additions to say in training camp that the playoffs are a reasonable goal."
he was right, except he screwed up horribly on LACK.
Burke must be some new wave tanking savant, because only a genius could come up with a plan to attempt to finish as low as possible for the draft benefit, and knowing that it only benefits Boston, because he already traded away Leafs own future 2010 and 2011 draft 1st round picks ahead of time. Burke was extremely successful in his tanking pursuit as he gave Boston the 2nd and 32nd overall picks in 2010 and the 9th overall in 2011.
Burke felt the need to add a 30+ goal scorer to his immediate line-up to help assist him to finish near the league bottom in the standings for 3 consecutive years.
Simply brilliant !!!
The time to add a player like Kessel is anytime, even in the beginning of a rebuild like we did.
"I like the group that finished the year, I think just on internal improvement we will be better. I think we will be good enough with this group and a couple additions to say in training camp that the playoffs are a reasonable goal."
