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04-09-2012, 06:25 PM
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washington:washington 1st + colorado 1st
montreal:pleckanec+ 2nd round 2012 nashville + ur choice of 2nd 2013(mtl,nashville,calgary)

thoughts? fair?

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washington:washington 1st + colorado 1st
montreal:pleckanec+ 2nd round 2012 nashville + ur choice of 2nd 2013(mtl,nashville,calgary)

thoughts? fair?
As a habs fan, I'd ask to remove one of the 2nds but understand if thats what it takes.

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I wouldn't be thrilled with it probably what it would it take but not sure it's the right move for the Caps

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One too many firsts for Plek.

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I wouldn't be thrilled with it probably what it would it take but not sure it's the right move for the Caps
Depends where caps see themselves. Plekanec is a near perfect fit for washington.

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One too many firsts for Plek.
What value do you rate plekanec?

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What value do you rate plekanec?
top 15 pick plus a little. I want to keep him tho.

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top 15 pick plus a little. I want to keep him tho.
Rather keep Pleks. Your not going to get anything close to Pleks with the 15 th pick.

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Rather keep Pleks. Your not going to get anything close to Pleks with the 15 th pick.
Agree!

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top 15 pick plus a little. I want to keep him tho.
I'd argue with him signed in his prime he's worth a 1st and a 2nd. Add two 2nd to plekanec and you get swapping 3 2nds for another 1st. It's possible.

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No. Plekanec is not worth 2 1sts.

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top 15 pick plus a little. I want to keep him tho.
FWIW, the Caps pick is currently 11th, and can potentially go as high as 7th through the lottery.

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I wouldn't do it as a Caps fan. I'd rather trade each 1st for a player separately. If you trade 2 first round picks in one deal, you should be getting back an elite player.

I'm not opposed to Plekanec, but I'd prefer a package involving one of the firsts, Perreault, and another roster player or prospect.

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I wouldn't do it as a Caps fan. I'd rather trade each 1st for a player separately. If you trade 2 first round picks in one deal, you should be getting back an elite player.

I'm not opposed to Plekanec, but I'd prefer a package involving one of the firsts, Perreault, and another roster player or prospect.
No thanks.

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I wouldn't do it as a Caps fan. I'd rather trade each 1st for a player separately. If you trade 2 first round picks in one deal, you should be getting back an elite player.

I'm not opposed to Plekanec, but I'd prefer a package involving one of the firsts, Perreault, and another roster player or prospect.
So we're dropping the 2 second rounders in this one right?

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No. Plekanec is not worth 2 1sts.
That's the point of the two 2nds.

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That's the point of the two 2nds.
Why would we want 2nd round picks?

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Why would we want 2nd round picks?
Because they are better than 3rd round picks?

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Why would we want 2nd round picks?
The same reason you want 1st round picks. To draft a player that you can develop into an NHLer down the road. But hey, if you don't want 2nd round picks you can give your next 10 to the Canucks. We won't complain

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The same reason you want 1st round picks. To draft a player that you can develop into an NHLer down the road. But hey, if you don't want 2nd round picks you can give your next 10 to the Canucks. We won't complain
The point is that if we're going "all in" trying to win now instead of using those 1st, why would we be interested in paying extra for more 2nds? If we're at the point where we no longer care about the draft, why would we want to essentially trade down? If the options are a 1st and 2nd for Plekanec or both 1sts for Plekanec and two 2nds, there's no incentive for the Caps to chose the latter.

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The point is that if we're going "all in" trying to win now instead of using those 1st, why would we be interested in paying extra for more 2nds? If we're at the point where we no longer care about the draft, why would we want to essentially trade down? If the options are a 1st and 2nd for Plekanec or both 1sts for Plekanec and two 2nds, there's no incentive for the Caps to chose the latter.
Essentially this becomes a "K, we'll give you a 1st and a 2nd, and you take your 2nds and our 2nd and get your own 1st with somebody else?"

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Essentially this becomes a "K, we'll give you a 1st and a 2nd, and you take your 2nds and our 2nd and get your own 1st with somebody else?"
Sounds good. The Caps' prospect pool is so barren, going two straight years without a first round pick would be brutal. It'd take a great deal for me to justify mortgaging our future like that.

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So we're dropping the 2 second rounders in this one right?
Yes.

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Markov Plekanec Vs Perreault Hamrlik washington 1st and Colorado 1st

Then we sign Semin and draft Yakupov


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Markov is a great player, when he's healthy, which is four years in the past.

Thirteen, 7, and 45 games played in the last three seasons make that a contract no one will touch.

Plekanec? Good player. Personally, I don't think the Canadiens have the centers to replace Plekanec, and that he's not actually on the market. At least, that's what the GM will conclude when Montreal has one.

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