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04-10-2012, 07:23 AM
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We could have our own "French Connection" line...

Parise/Bergeron/Marchand (I think Marchand is a french name?)

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We could do it right now, if we used Pouliot.

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We could have our own "French Connection" line...

Parise/Bergeron/Marchand (I think Marchand is a french name?)
Parise is a good ol' 'merican boy

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I've seen some people suggesting that if Ruff stays on in Buffalo (whole 'nuther ball of wax) they might be looking to move Vanek.

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I believe that many are overlooking the impact of a Savard's LTIR possibility in calculating cap space for next season. Four million opens up a lot of possibilities.

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My gut tells me little will be done on the forward side..

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Chara-Seids
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That being said, I really like the idea of signing Suter for many reasons. But one being that it does not force you to overpay for Seids when his contract his up. Seeing what they gave to Boychuk, his demands would be in the 4mil range, rather just use the ELC savings and put it towards Suter.
I think you are bang on- Kelly is the big question here, and it may come down to him or Campbell, not so much money but spot...I think at best scenario only one stays and its probably Kelly. I'm not sure how pumped the Bruins are about going three years with him but thats what I'd want if I was him. Bruins should want Kelly, he's the blueprint of what they look for.

Also, I think Hamilton is in the OHL again and not here based on what I been hearing- would suck to burn off a year of his contract when he is still a big time work in process

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I have no issues either way if Dougie returns to Junior, or if he's with the big club, seems like the organizational philosophy is that, ELC kicking in or not, if a player shows he's ready, he'll play.

Most likely he'll need developing in areas without a doubt, but I'd argue, with his hockey IQ, he wouldn't have half the braincramps back there that #14 has had this season.

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I wouldn't hesitate to move out a forward for some draft picks in return if it meant the Bruins were seriously in on a Parise or Suter type.

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Is it unrealistic to hope for Parise this offseason? Do you guys think there is a legitimate chance?

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Is it unrealistic to hope for Parise this offseason? Do you guys think there is a legitimate chance?
I honestly don't know.

I don't really believe the stuff that he was "upset" with New Jersey. I think that while there might be a hint of truth for the most part it's media speculation to get attention.

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Is it unrealistic to hope for Parise this offseason? Do you guys think there is a legitimate chance?
Is there a chance?? Yep, but....I`d be willing to bet that the Brass are going to make a big push for Suter first, D wins Cups, and this team, regardless of not having what would classify as an "elite" or "sniper" in the lineup, can already score. U imagine a D with Z/Suter and Hamilton (a touch premature but..)

And yes, I believe it to be more than realistic that this could happen.

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Amen to that odaat!

All the offensive talent in the world won't win four playoff series without commitment to defense.

And I suppose one could say vice-versa and it would be true....I'm just a big believer that the Top 4 defensemen are the biggest reason for success and failure.

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Amen to that odaat!

All the offensive talent in the world won't win four playoff series without commitment to defense.

And I suppose one could say vice-versa and it would be true....I'm just a big believer that the Top 4 defensemen are the biggest reason for success and failure.
It would most likely mean that a Johnny B may have to move, or a Ference, Suter needs to get paid, and although the B`s have space, someone has to move in order for Chia to have some pennies left for trade deadline etc....

can`t believe I`m shooting the breeze about off-season stuff and the first puck hasn`t dropped for the playoffs

I love Parise, like Iggy alot, but sorry, this team doesn`t "need" those guys, what this team will "need" is someone to be able to relieve Z of those major minutes playing against the best in the world, and a guy like Suter, with all due respect to what this team has now, would be a massive upgrade.

I love Weber too, but I don`t think Weber`s game would be half as effective if he were in Z`s position without a guy like a Suter to have his back, just an opinion

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04-10-2012, 10:03 AM
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That looks nice, but how are we supposed to get Iginla when Seguin, Krejci, Marchand, Hamilton and Rask are still there...
I traded Thomas to Tampa, Tampa gave Calgary quality futures, and Calgary moved Iginla to Boston.

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It would most likely mean that a Johnny B may have to move, or a Ference, Suter needs to get paid, and although the B`s have space, someone has to move in order for Chia to have some pennies left for trade deadline etc....

can`t believe I`m shooting the breeze about off-season stuff and the first puck hasn`t dropped for the playoffs
I think they can make it work by replacing Kelly and Paille with ELC's.

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I think they can make it work by replacing Kelly and Paille with ELC's. The next year they let Seids walk.
This is where we disagree/differ in opinion, I`m of the belief Kelly is going nowhere and Soupy will be the odd man out this summer.

Quiader is a solid and relatively inexpensive 5-6, You`d have Z/Suter/Seids/Ference with possibly a Zanon in the mix,Hamilton could easily be sent back to Junior or learn from 2 elite D-men, I would rather keep the forward`s as much intact as possible

If it meant being able to add a Suter, that I`d have to move anyone on the back end, it`d be Johnny, who I think would garner a nice return

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Is it unrealistic to hope for Parise this offseason? Do you guys think there is a legitimate chance?
I don't think it's that realistic.

We'll see what happens in the playoffs and what the prognosis is for Horton, but adding a guy like Parise changes how you build this team going forward. If he wants to break the bank for the next 10 years then even if Chiarelli decides he needs more offense, he still may walk away because of how he manages the cap.

That's where a guy like Iginla comes in. IF the ownership in CGY decides it's time to move on (and there were rumblings of this on HNIC this past week) then that short term deal and the fact that he's at an age where you could go shorter money, shorter term, would probably appeal to PC more from a cap management point of view.

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Iginla works just as well as Parise does for me. Count me in.

But some will refuse to give up anything for him because the thought that an OHL player could maybe someday become half the player Iginla is is more appealing for some odd reason.

Iginla to us would be what Bourque was to Colorado...a truly remarkable story.


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Give me Suter before the two above anyday of the week

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Anyone else see Krug being in the line-up next season? That is unless Dougie comes in to camp way ahead of last season. I think we are left with two good, viable options on D so I feel if we were to address a FA, it may be a forward.

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Is there a chance?? Yep, but....I`d be willing to bet that the Brass are going to make a big push for Suter first, D wins Cups, and this team, regardless of not having what would classify as an "elite" or "sniper" in the lineup, can already score. U imagine a D with Z/Suter and Hamilton (a touch premature but..)

And yes, I believe it to be more than realistic that this could happen.
I don’t post very often, but for years I’ve read all day long.

IMO, bringing in another minute-chewing defenseman is imperative to this team’s success going forward.

Chara isn’t getting any younger and all these years of logging 27 min. a night are going to start catching up with him. This team is primed for a Detroit-like run of postseasons; bringing in a Suter would allow Julien to carefully manage Z’s minutes throughout the season so he’s “fresher” for long playoff runs.

Besides, in 3 or 4 years when Z is ready to hang them up, Suter will still be in his prime and Hamilton will just be entering his. One No. 1 D-man replaces another: a machine . . .

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I don’t post very often, but for years I’ve read all day long.

IMO, bringing in another minute-chewing defenseman is imperative to this team’s success going forward.

Chara isn’t getting any younger and all these years of logging 27 min. a night are going to start catching up with him. This team is primed for a Detroit-like run of postseasons; bringing in a Suter would allow Julien to carefully manage Z’s minutes throughout the season so he’s “fresher” for long playoff runs.

Besides, in 3 or 4 years when Z is ready to hang them up, Suter will still be in his prime and Hamilton will just be entering his. One No. 1 D-man replaces another: a machine . . .
We are on the exact same page, therefore, I like you, please post more often

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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER

FORWARDS
Brad Marchand ($2.500m) / Tyler Seguin ($3.550m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
Milan Lucic ($4.083m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Nathan Horton ($4.000m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($5.000m) / Rich Peverley ($3.250m)
Jordan Caron ($1.100m) / Greg Campbell ($1.250m) / Shawn Thornton ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($3.250m) / Dougie Hamilton ($1.525m)
Andrew Ference ($2.250m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Mike Mottau ($0.800m) /

GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($2.500m)
Anton Khudobin ($0.875m)

BUYOUTS
Patrick Eaves ($0.258m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,891,666; BONUSES: $3,587,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,408,334
Bill, you just named my dream roster for next years Bruins. I think you got it right for every position. Question is, what happens if Dougie isn't ready? We should at least sign someone like Zanon for depth-reasons, shouldn't we?

But otherwise, it's great. But who is sent to Calgary in any deal for Iginla? Jerome is far and away the better option than Parise. And the only reason is: contract-length

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Iginla works just as well as Parise does for me. Count me in.

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not for me. Parise is the next 10 years

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not for me. Parise is the next 10 years
I`m frightened of those decade long deals, I`d go 5 tops

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