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What to do with Ales Hemsky?

View Poll Results: What to do with Ales Hemsky
Keep and try him as a 2nd line left winger 56 56.00%
Put him on the 3rd line 14 14.00%
Move him 30 30.00%
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04-10-2012, 10:46 PM
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let Yakupov play another season in the OHL.

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04-10-2012, 10:46 PM
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He played LW for Jagr at World Championship events.

He's all over the ice as it is, it won't matter if he's LW or RW, he's still going to circle behind the net.

IMO, you absolutely cannot move Yakupov from RW. He's at his deadliest there like most Russians who've been brought up to play off-wing.
Either he or Eberle have been playing LW recently anyway as Renney had him playing with the two kids hoping to generate some offense in the games down the stretch.

Anyway, this isn't Hemsky's team anymore. If we want him to play LW, he'll damn well play there and learn to like it.

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04-10-2012, 10:50 PM
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You have 1 LW and 3 RW that are first line talents. You put whichever RW can adjust best to the left side there and sit back and watch the offensive explosion
Gotta think Eberle goes to LW. He's the smartest of the bunch and is a right shot (I am pretty sure I have seen him blast him a few goals off the left circle on the PP). Put him with Hemsky and Nuge and let them go to work. Gagner can line up with Hall and Yakupov.



Eberle-Gagner-Yakupov
Hall-RNH-Hemsky

will work just as good.

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04-10-2012, 10:52 PM
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let Yakupov play another season in the OHL.
When was the last time the 1st overall pick, especially as talented as Yakupov was left in junior? He's gonna be our No.1 or No.2 RW next year.

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04-10-2012, 10:53 PM
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How much more injury prone is he going to be playing in a position he isn't used to? Trade him if you can.

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04-10-2012, 10:54 PM
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Eberle can switch to the LW anyway, at least for a little while I think.

Most of his "sniper" goals seem to come from the left side of the ice anyway.

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04-10-2012, 10:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure Yakupov can play LW

HALL - RNH - EBERLE
YAKUPOV - GAGNER - HEMSKY

Sick top 6!

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04-10-2012, 11:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure Yakupov can play LW

HALL - RNH - EBERLE
YAKUPOV - GAGNER - HEMSKY

Sick top 6!
Let's not make the rookie adjust to a new position while adjusting to the NHL game at the same time.

Russians play better on their off wing. Yakupov should be a right winger.

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04-10-2012, 11:03 PM
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Let's not make the rookie adjust to a new position while adjusting to the NHL game at the same time.

Russians play better on their off wing. Yakupov should be a right winger.

Eberle RNH Hemsky
Hall Gagner Yakupov

Probably works just fine too.

Long term though I think next year is Hemsky's last as an Oiler, so any positional "issues" will be gone pretty soon.

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04-10-2012, 11:05 PM
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I don't like the idea of having Hall and Yakupov on the same line. Their both players that will keep the tempo going and I think having them on different lines will help keep momentum on our side throughout the lineup.

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going to need Eager to play on the top 2 lines....we need toughness up front.

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He played LW for Jagr at World Championship events.

He's all over the ice as it is, it won't matter if he's LW or RW, he's still going to circle behind the net.

IMO, you absolutely cannot move Yakupov from RW. He's at his deadliest there like most Russians who've been brought up to play off-wing.
He might even circle the net less on LW. On RW when he circles the net he is on his forehand the entire time to look for a pass. On LW he'd be on his back hand the whole time. We might see more of this



Agree on keeping Yakupov on RW. He looks lethal from there. And you are correct too in that Hall and Yakupov shouldn't be on the same line.

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04-10-2012, 11:21 PM
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Just read the OP, so I'm not sure if this point has already been made, but we have ZERO depth right now. What do we do with Hemsky? We keep in.

I'd like to use the first part of next season to see if we could go with three offensive lines.

Either way, I'd keep Hemsky. A lot of guys can play 2 forward positions and player depth is what separates good teams from teams like Edmonton.

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04-10-2012, 11:24 PM
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Hemsky has a no movement clause which starts July 1st. Get him outta here.

Hemsky, Peckham and the first in 2013 to Florida for Erik Gudbranson (Shea Weber jr)

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going to need Eager to play on the top 2 lines....we need toughness up front.
This is why long term Oilers will need a bigger 2nd line centerman and a 2nd line power forward.


Hall-RNH-Eberle
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04-10-2012, 11:28 PM
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Hemsky has a no movement clause which starts July 1st. Get him outta here.

Hemsky, Peckham and the first in 2013 to Florida for Erik Gudbranson (Shea Weber jr)
Hemsky's new contract doesn't have a no movement clause.

It would be pathetic to trade him before his extension even kicks in. Only bush league franchises do that.

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04-10-2012, 11:31 PM
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Hemsky's new contract doesn't have a no movement clause.

It would be pathetic to trade him before his extension even kicks in. Only bush league franchises do that.
Bush league like what the Flyers did to Richards and Carter, screw Hemsky, this is a business. The game often changes on a moments notice.

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04-10-2012, 11:35 PM
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Bush league like what the Flyers did to Richards and Carter, screw Hemsky, this is a business. The game often changes on a moments notice.
Richards played three years of his extension before being traded. Trading Carter before his kicked in was a bush league move by the Flyers organization. Every player deserves a chance to earn their contract before being traded.

How many players do you think will sign with them long term now without demanding a NTC? Ilya Bryzgalov demanded one and got it. I'm sure others will as well.

If you don't treat your players like people it will come back to bite you.

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04-10-2012, 11:36 PM
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Bush league like what the Flyers did to Richards and Carter, screw Hemsky, this is a business. The game often changes on a moments notice.
And then you wonder why no FAs want to sign in Edmonton...

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HEMMER AND NAIL.

Hall - RNH - Eberle were stopped when either Hall/Eberle/RNH got injured or the coaching staff stapled their top two D on them.
Second line with scoring talent? Nail-Gags-Hemmer? That seems like a win-win combo.

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I said in the other thread that we should trade Gagner for defensive help and sign Arnott to a one year deal to fill that hole.
Arnott is a sub-40 point scorer, and has been scratched in St.L.

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You sure you want him back? or did you want him back 2-3 years ago?


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Hall - RNH - Eberle were stopped when either Hall/Eberle/RNH got injured or the coaching staff stapled their top two D on them.
Second line with scoring talent? Nail-Gags-Hemmer? That seems like a win-win combo
Only thing I'm VERY worried about is, that we have the smallest top 6 in the NHL going forward. We need a hulking C for our 2nd line to balance our dynamic.

That top 6 looks like it would get slaughtered against the Bruins in a playoff series.

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04-10-2012, 11:38 PM
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We can agree to disagree Tyler. Don't be too shocked when he gets dealt before the draft. Are you going to trade all your Oiler merchandise in when the Oilers throw him under the bus finally?

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04-10-2012, 11:43 PM
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Keep him until the deadline at least I think.

It would be unclassy to deal him straight away because he signed that deal with the intention of staying here.

Plus his value still probably isn't great.

If he can put up some better numbers playing with all the firepower around him, his value will be solid at the deadline (plus he still has term on his deal).
If we pick Yak, there will be no team lining up to give anything of value to the Oilers for Hemsky and his 5 million dollar contract per year...who do you believe would have the bargaining chip? "Please take Hemsky and his contract, as we really have no where to play him on the top two lines"....

Might as well keep him. Who knows, maybe he will find someone in the top six that he can actually gel with.

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What do I do with Hemsky if I'm Tambo? Well...I tell him to pick up the phone and kiss ass to Jagr, then wheel n deal in the summer....

JAGR - EBERLE - HEMSKY
HALL - HOPKINS - YAKUPOV
SMYTH - HORCOFF - HARTI
EAGER - KELLY - TOOTOO
HORDI - PETRELL

SMID - PETRY
JACKMAN - SCHULTZ.sr
WHITNEY - SCHULTZ.jr
SUTTON

DUBZ
KHABZ



Yeah.... Gagner + Jonesy + Belanger were the casualties. Dare to dream...all I'm missing is Suter

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Only thing I'm VERY worried about is, that we have the smallest top 6 in the NHL going forward. We need a hulking C for our 2nd line to balance our dynamic.

That top 6 looks like it would get slaughtered against the Bruins in a playoff series.
It ain't the size of dog in the fight, but the size of fight in the dog?

In all seriousness, Yakupov plays like a monster/Ovenchicken with his hitting. If Hall/RNH/Ebs filled out their frame, you'd be a little happier.
Also, fill the third (checking) lines with people that'll hit back, I guess.

IM HAPPY NOW, DAMMIT

PS - Oilers average top-6 height -- 6"
Montreal average top-6 height --- 5'10"

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