I am no expert on Filip but he seems like a Nino Niederreitter clone(maybe not as physical but better offensively). On the negative side you could say he is redundant on the positive side the Islanders could be like the Bruins in the sense they have alot of big players who are hard to stop and can skate well.
I'd love to see Columbus pass on Murray.But,that Forsberg rumor originated with Garroich.He throws so much crap up against the wall and so little of it ends up happening.
All comes down to what Columbus does. If they take Grigs, Gally will undoubtably go to Montreal. If they take Forsberg, Montreal will without a doubt take Grigorenko.
I am no expert on Filip but he seems like a Nino Niederreitter clone(maybe not as physical but better offensively). On the negative side you could say he is redundant on the positive side the Islanders could be like the Bruins in the sense they have alot of big players who are hard to stop and can skate well.
From what I have gathered on Forsberg, he is no Nino clone. Far from it. I'm of the school of thought that RH shots add a little bit of value to a prospect. It may have changed and I'm just an idiot/uninformed, but rightys have long been the minority in the NHL. Forsberg has got that going for him. This guy also has the best tools in the draft of any of the elite forwards IMO. He's one of the youngest players available this year and has sick upside. I remember reading on here somewhere that McKenzie tweeted that Filip reminds him of 'Corey Perry without the nasty stuff'. This kid is universally lauded for his 'will' and compete level. Um, I'm licking my chops. We also have a noticeable Sweden connection in the last several drafts.
The Isles are not exactly huge up the middle. JT may be a demi-god, but he's not the Hulk. Strome may fill out a bit, but I don't think he'll ever be described as a physical force on the ice. Strome is also similar to JT in skillset. It would make sense to surround them with as many big, physical forwards as possible to give them time and space to strut their stuff. Nino could still develop to be one and Forsberg another. Brock Nelson could just as easily be an option on the wing if Strome becomes the player that he's projected to be. It makes sense to me. There is some logic to throwing as much stuff at the wall and seeing which stick.
I don't know, we'll have to see what happens. Forsberg at least makes sense to me.
What is going on? In the past 24 hours it seems everyone thinks Forsberg is the pick because TSN said so. What has Mathew Dumba done in the past day to make nobody suddenly want to touch him? Central Scouting? All the analysts scurrying around to drop this kid down the rankings? What a joke.
I really don't want Forsberg or Gally. How many forward lines can we possibly make?
That's 7 lines I just made. Which nine of those kids won't be playing in the NHL in a couple years? Of the remaining twelve, which three are doomed to get 4th line minutes? Of the remaining nine, who gets kicked out for Forsberg?
That's offensive depth, and every player is under 30. You gotta believe 9 names from that list can develop enough into a competent top-9 to make this team competitive. Our defensive depth isn't nearly as strong. Enough 1st round forwards, please.
I personally love Matt Dumba. He reminds me of Darius Kasparaitis. A little on the small side but still plays physical. Willing to go after anyone and hits like a brick house.
Leafs fan coming in peace.
I think both our teams are set up to get some great pieces, but with the depth of defensemen available, does anyone think NYI will trade out of the top 5 to say 8-10?
I say this because I see 3-4 D that could slot in there. NYI get a very strong D man (I assume Murray is gone @ 2), plus stocks the cupboards with another good piece(s) from Tampa, Carolina, or Winnipeg (prob. not Tampa...they need D more then anyone).
As you can see, this will have an effect on the Leafs pick...hence the question.
Leafs fan coming in peace.
I think both our teams are set up to get some great pieces, but with the depth of defensemen available, does anyone think NYI will trade out of the top 5 to say 8-10?
I say this because I see 3-4 D that could slot in there. NYI get a very strong D man (I assume Murray is gone @ 2), plus stocks the cupboards with another good piece(s) from Tampa, Carolina, or Winnipeg (prob. not Tampa...they need D more then anyone).
As you can see, this will have an effect on the Leafs pick...hence the question.
If Murray is gone I can see them trading somewhere between 5 & 7 to pick up Dumba. I don't think they have their eye on any other Dman besides Murray or Dumba. But then again, the Isles can also grab the leftover Russian Gman or Forsberg. Who the hell knows at this point.
Just wanted to say how I suggested Forsberg would be the Isles pick back in January, way before everyone jumped on that bandwagon. I know I know, bragging before it actually happens. But I'm posting this because now I think that's all changed. I think Forsberg will go before the Isles pick. Kid is special and GMs and scouts know it, despite what HFers think. People comparing him to Nino? Give your head a shake.
Anyway, I'm saying the islanders finally get their defenseman, but not to please fans or fill a hole. But because he will be the best player available. I could really see Murray dropping down to 4th. I know its being suggested all over, so I'm not alone in my thought process. I definitely could be wrong, in which case Forsberg is still my backup prediction.
Just wanted to say how I suggested Forsberg would be the Isles pick back in January, way before everyone jumped on that bandwagon. I know I know, bragging before it actually happens. But I'm posting this because now I think that's all changed. I think Forsberg will go before the Isles pick. Kid is special and GMs and scouts know it, despite what HFers think. People comparing him to Nino? Give your head a shake.
Anyway, I'm saying the islanders finally get their defenseman, but not to please fans or fill a hole. But because he will be the best player available. I could really see Murray dropping down to 4th. I know its being suggested all over, so I'm not alone in my thought process. I definitely could be wrong, in which case Forsberg is still my backup prediction.
That's quite a bold claim, but there were a couple of us that have been fans of Forsberg back in November. Someone even called Forsberg at #4 back then as well. So
I have a feeling if Forsberg wreaks havoc at the U18's as I'm expecting him to do, Columbus might take a serious look at him at #2.
being that the oilers have picked up spectacular fowards in the past few drafts, i think theres a better chance that theyll trade away that pick before the blue jackets would...what would it take to get it IF it were available?
That's quite a bold claim, but there were a couple of us that have been fans of Forsberg back in November. Someone even called Forsberg at #4 back then as well. So
I have a feeling if Forsberg wreaks havoc at the U18's as I'm expecting him to do, Columbus might take a serious look at him at #2.
That's quite the prediction if you did.
Care to provide the evidence? I remember talk of him, but no suggestions he would be the Isles pick. Would be something if you actually did call it by the draft position that early.
What is going on? In the past 24 hours it seems everyone thinks Forsberg is the pick because TSN said so. What has Mathew Dumba done in the past day to make nobody suddenly want to touch him? Central Scouting? All the analysts scurrying around to drop this kid down the rankings? What a joke.
I really don't want Forsberg or Gally. How many forward lines can we possibly make?
That's 7 lines I just made. Which nine of those kids won't be playing in the NHL in a couple years? Of the remaining twelve, which three are doomed to get 4th line minutes? Of the remaining nine, who gets kicked out for Forsberg?
That's offensive depth, and every player is under 30. You gotta believe 9 names from that list can develop enough into a competent top-9 to make this team competitive. Our defensive depth isn't nearly as strong. Enough 1st round forwards, please.
The bolded are ones that have the POTENTIAL to be top 6 forwards. If these guys hit their POTENTIAL, they can top out as top 6. But how many of them are top 3?
If Galchenyuk is on the board at 4, you take him. The kid has gamebreaker potential, first line material.
However, if Murray is on the board, I think you gotta go with him...
being that the oilers have picked up spectacular fowards in the past few drafts, i think theres a better chance that theyll trade away that pick before the blue jackets would...what would it take to get it IF it were available?
NYI and EDM are pretty similar looking teams actually. Real young offensive core, with some work needed in net and blueline. I'd actually say EDM has a much better defensive prospect pool then NYI
People haven't noticed, but EDM has picked 3 very good defensive prospects in the last 2 drafts. Klefbom (19th), Marincin (46th), and Musil (31st) all project to being top 4 talent. Also, former 1st rounder Teubert (13th, 08) will make the jump next year.
I don't think any of them are Ryan Murray quality, but when you have Eberle, Hall, The Nuge, and Yakupov...you can sacrifice a bit on the defensive end.
Keep in mind getting Yakupov will mean they can use Gagner and maybe even Paajarvi (both?) to upgrade on D as well....unforunately for the entire league, I don't think that pick is going anywhere.
being that the oilers have picked up spectacular fowards in the past few drafts, i think theres a better chance that theyll trade away that pick before the blue jackets would...what would it take to get it IF it were available?
Our 1st, Hamonic & Nilsson/Poulin
that's what I'd demand if I were the Oilers at least.
Thinking about the 2003 draft is just painful. 4 picks in the top 60, and 9 picks total, and somehow, the best we can do is Bruno Gervais. Considering the strength of that draft, this has to be among the all time worst drafts for a team.
Yep. Absolutely horrible. Opportunity to restock the franchise with no results.
With exception of 2010 draft, I'm very happy with drafts & restocking the system under Snow's tenure.
Isles will take Alex Galchenyuk with their 4th overall pick, and Snow will trade a bunch of picks to acquire another 1st round pick to select defenseman Slater Koekkoek. That's my bold prediction for the Isles.
