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04-11-2012, 06:33 AM
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Does Commentary Affect How "Big" A Past Moment Is Seen As

Would moments like "May Day" or "Matteau" be seen as "smaller" historically if they had less memorable commentary?

If yes, have any other moments been seen as "bigger" then they should actually be because of the commentary

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I think Pierre McGuire had a lot to do with people remembering the Jordan Eberle goal against Team Russia. That call made the moment legendary. Tons of people YouTube that goal on a nightly basis just to hear Pierre.

"I can! Because of da fact dat 'Koo-lee-kin' ices a puck!!! And look at the Russian body language now! They're crushed! Tavares had to step up and make a magical play! The crrrrrowd loves it! Tavarghghgres' magical play."

I call it the "I Can" goal. Thanks, Pierre.


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Definitely. For example, Joe Sakic's second goal in the 2002 Gold Medal game wasn't all that important in the overall scheme of the win, but it's still (to my mind, at least) the most memorable moment of that game.

All because of "Jeeeeeoe Sakic!"

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I think Pierre McGuire had a lot to do with people remembering the Jordan Eberle goal against Team Russia. That call made the moment legendary. Tons of people YouTube that goal on a nightly basis just to hear Pierre.

"I can! Because of da fact dat 'Koo-lee-kin' ices a puck!!! And look at the Russian body language now! They're crushed! Tavares had to step up and make a magical play! The crrrrrowd loves it! Tavarghghgres' magical play."

I call it the "I Can" goal. Thanks, Pierre.
Are you kidding? Gord Miller made a legendary call, Pierre almost ruined it with his chatter. He should have just kept his mouth shut in that case.

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If yes: so are there some moments which aren't evaluated proper way because of "bad" commentary?

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"OH MY GOD PHENOMENAL HISTORIC CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!"

"Yes."

I still don't understand how someone as good as Pierre could be that dumb.

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If yes: so are there some moments which aren't evaluated proper way because of "bad" commentary?
I always hated the Home Alone call, but it didn't seem to detract from the importance of Wendel's goal to Leafs fans.

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"Do You believe in Miracles? YEESSS!" - Not that the Miracle on Ice wasn't a historic moment, but even if I say those words to myself I get goosebumps if that tells you anything about Al Michaels' call

"Here's Lemieux.........to center, penalty coming up, LOOK AT LEMIEUX! OH MY GOODNESS, WHAT A GOAL, WHAT A MOVE........LEMIEUX! OOHH BABY!" - Bob Cole describing Mario's goal in 1991. Still would have been famous, but when Cole was inducted into the HHOF this goal was among his highlight packages for calls

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I think circumstances in general affect how big an event seems in hindsight. For example i remember watching he 94/95 playoff series between the Sharks and Red Wings, due to me being on the other side of the pond it was aired in the middle of the night and for me as a 12-13 year old kid it was an absolutely amazing feeling, both the games and staying up really late. And altough i dont remember much of the commentary about it i do remember the games and the feeling i had.

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no doubt about it, Mayday Mayday goals is bigger with it.

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My two favorite:

OH, WOW!! In your life, have you seen anything like that? Verne Lundquist. Maybe the most memorable golf shot ever and Verne's commentary was magical.

55 seconds left in the penalty, a minute and 27 seconds left in regulation time. Boston 4 Montreal 3. Lafleur, coming out rather gingerly on the right side. He gives it in to Lemaire, back to Lafleur. HE SCOOORES! (Gallivan silent as the crowd roars).

Danny knew when silence was golden.

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If yes: so are there some moments which aren't evaluated proper way because of "bad" commentary?
Hurt by Commentary




Helped by Commentary


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Hurt by Commentary

To be fair though, I don't think any announcer could have made that play any better. It was anti-climatic because no one on TV - including a very hesitant camera man - knew where the puck was.

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My point was that if OP is right and commentary affects how Big moments are seen, it must work other way either.

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Some moments that were clearly elevated because of the call, that come to mind:

-Jeeeeoooee Sakic!
-May Day! May Day! May Day!
-Matteau! Matteau! (though I guess an OT winner in a game 7 would've been remembered either way)

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