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04-11-2012, 09:45 AM
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Toronto-Nashville

Assume the Predators lose to Detroit in the first round. Are they inclined to do a bit of a shake-up?

Toronto
Colin Wilson
Anders Lindback

Nashville
Clarke Macarthur
Nazem Kadri
Luke Schenn
2nd 2012

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04-11-2012, 09:55 AM
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that would majorly suck for Toronto. HAha not only are the leafs overpaying, they are overpaying for a player that was selected with the pick they used to trade up to get luke schenn lmao

Let me revise the trade..

Lindback (unproven as a starter)
Wilson

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Schenn
Macarthur

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Assume the Predators lose to Detroit in the first round. Are they inclined to do a bit of a shake-up?

Toronto
Colin Wilson
Anders Lindback

Nashville
Clarke Macarthur
Nazem Kadri
Luke Schenn
2nd 2012
Given that Wilson and Lindback are both RFAs, this would be a nice idea for Nashville even if they win the Cup, and a not-so-great idea for the Leafs.

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Nashville would be looking for established player(s) if they shopped that package. Not a depth offensive guy and hit or miss young players.

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Gunnarsson + 2nd would probably interest the predators more. May be worth it may not be, but i would love Wilson on the Leafs.

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This is so brutal for the Leafs.

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Kulimen, Gunnerson, 2nd and Armstrong for Wilson and Lindback

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Nashville would be looking for established player(s) if they shopped that package. Not a depth offensive guy and hit or miss young players.
Cause Lindback and Wilson are not hit or miss young players themselves?

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Not only is it an overpayment from the Leafs it doesnt serve a need. We have Owuya and Scrivens.... we dont need another "potential" no 1 goalie.

And we arent given up a top 6 forward and our best prospect for a 3 year NHLer who hasnt hit 40 points before

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Sometimes in the OP, we get a "Toronto does this because". I kinda need someone to do that, cause I don't get it.

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Sometimes in the OP, we get a "Toronto does this because". I kinda need someone to do that, cause I don't get it.
Um, Toronto needs a starting goalie and big young center? I don't get it either as it is an overpayment from Toronto and I'm not sure Nashville is keen to trade Wilson for those pieces (if they agree on the value).

Lindback is big and has NHL experience, but he hasn't shown Schneider potential, shall we say. Therefore, while he is certainly more proven than Owuya or Rynnas, I don't know that he is better than a healthy Reimer or a true Number 1 - like Rinne, for example.

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Um, Toronto needs a starting goalie and big young center? I don't get it either as it is an overpayment from Toronto and I'm not sure Nashville is keen to trade Wilson for those pieces (if they agree on the value).

Lindback is big and has NHL experience, but he hasn't shown Schneider potential, shall we say. Therefore, while he is certainly more proven than Owuya or Rynnas, I don't know that he is better than a healthy Reimer or a true Number 1 - like Rinne, for example.
Well, hes certainly not better than Peks as Peks is one of the top 3 goalies in the league and by the looks of the huge contract we gave him, hes not going anywhere. Meanwhile, I dont think we would want to part with Colin Wilson and Lindback for that package. Also, not losing in the first round.

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Assume the Predators lose to Detroit in the first round. Are they inclined to do a bit of a shake-up?

Toronto
Colin Wilson
Anders Lindback

Nashville
Clarke Macarthur
Nazem Kadri
Luke Schenn
2nd 2012
Nashville does not need more forwards. If anything, they need to dump a few overboard. I expect the Preds to re-sign the K Bros. Radulov, leaving only 1 3rd line spot open for the Preds. That's either going to be a Yip or a Tootoo or one of the kids in Milwaukee.

This almost a knock off of an idea I had

Wilson (RFA)
Lindback (RFA)
Rights to Suter if he wants to leave (UFA)

TOR's 1st
Schenn as a salary dump.

Wilson is not a match for Trotz system so far. Lindback is one goalie too many. Toronto will have cash for signing Suter, Nashville get's back a pick that they can trade down to get back a 1st and 2nd.

The Preds Ownership says they are planning on spending to the cap next year. (Whatever that is.) I wish they would sign Radulov, Suter, Weber, SK, AK, and move the rest but I'm not that optimistic.

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Nashville does not need more forwards. If anything, they need to dump a few overboard. I expect the Preds to re-sign the K Bros. Radulov, leaving only 1 3rd line spot open for the Preds. That's either going to be a Yip or a Tootoo or one of the kids in Milwaukee.

This almost a knock off of an idea I had

Wilson (RFA)
Lindback (RFA)
Rights to Suter if he wants to leave (UFA)

TOR's 1st
Schenn as a salary dump.

Wilson is not a match for Trotz system so far. Lindback is one goalie too many. Toronto will have cash for signing Suter, Nashville get's back a pick that they can trade down to get back a 1st and 2nd.

The Preds Ownership says they are planning on spending to the cap next year. (Whatever that is.) I wish they would sign Radulov, Suter, Weber, SK, AK, and move the rest but I'm not that optimistic.
How about Wilson for Gunnarsson straight up?

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How about Wilson for Gunnarsson straight up?
Interesting. He would make a Suter loss more palatable. My first reaction was add a second.

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Interesting. He would make a Suter loss more palatable. My first reaction was add a second.
Gunnarsson is a great #4 D, Wilson is a struggling young player. Obviously Wilson's potential is greater then that of Gunnarsson, however there is risks involved. If that were to go down, TOR POV would be to replace Gunnarsson with a package of MacArthur + 2nd for another LD. It would solidify the wings for quite some time.

Lupul - Kessel
Kadri - Wilson
Kulemin - Frattin

However wed have a huge hole going into next season with

XXX - Phanuef
Gardiner - Schenn

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Gunnarsson is a great #4 D, Wilson is a struggling young player. Obviously Wilson's potential is greater then that of Gunnarsson, however there is risks involved. If that were to go down, TOR POV would be to replace Gunnarsson with a package of MacArthur + 2nd for another LD. It would solidify the wings for quite some time.

Lupul - Kessel
Kadri - Wilson
Kulemin - Frattin

However wed have a huge hole going into next season with

XXX - Phanuef
Gardiner - Schenn

Wilson is playing LW because he's not living up to Trotz's needs for a defense first center.

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Wilson is playing LW because he's not living up to Trotz's needs for a defense first center.
i know thats why i have him on the wing in my lineup, he still isn't fitting well and there are risks surrounding him as he inst yet a proven commodity.

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i know thats why i have him on the wing in my lineup, he still isn't fitting well and there are risks surrounding him as he inst yet a proven commodity.
We don't agree and frankly, it would never happen. Oh well, it's cup time let's pay attention to that.

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Nashville does not need more forwards. If anything, they need to dump a few overboard. I expect the Preds to re-sign the K Bros. Radulov, leaving only 1 3rd line spot open for the Preds. That's either going to be a Yip or a Tootoo or one of the kids in Milwaukee.

This almost a knock off of an idea I had

Wilson (RFA)
Lindback (RFA)
Rights to Suter if he wants to leave (UFA)

TOR's 1st
Schenn as a salary dump.


Wilson is not a match for Trotz system so far. Lindback is one goalie too many. Toronto will have cash for signing Suter, Nashville get's back a pick that they can trade down to get back a 1st and 2nd.

The Preds Ownership says they are planning on spending to the cap next year. (Whatever that is.) I wish they would sign Radulov, Suter, Weber, SK, AK, and move the rest but I'm not that optimistic.
How does this benefit the Leafs?

Suter's negotiating rights are worth a 2nd rounder, at absolute most. The Flames traded a 3rd for Bouwmeester's negotiating rights, the Flyers a 3rd for Bryzgalov, and the Isles a 4th for Ehrhoff's. Even though Suter is among the best in his position, it still is a massive risk for teams to pay anything substantial simply for the right to talk contract a few days before free agency.

Lindback has proven no more than Reimer at this stage and is not worth much at all.

Wilson is a nice piece, but not worth anywhere close to the 5th overall pick + Luke Schenn (how often are 22 year old defensemen traded as "salary dumps?").


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You got to be kidding. That is terrible for the Leafs.
Lmao I was reading down the thread, saw that proposal, and was just waiting for someone to bash it. Toronto gives one of Galchenyuk, Murray, Grigs or Forsberg, and Schenn, a previous #5 pick (as a salary dump, nonetheless) for potentially NO ONE. They would still have to resign each of those players.

On the other end of the spectrum, a Phaneuf/Suter pairing would be gold.. It would take a lot of pressure off Phaneuf, and Suter would cover a lot of Dion's brainfarts defensively.

But unless Burke can get definitive #1 C in retun, or Yaks, I dont think hes gonna move that pick

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