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04-11-2012, 10:53 AM
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I think a #1/2 dman is a bigger need at this time, especially considering one is possibly available (doesn't happen as often as a top 6 winger).

Yes, the Avs forwards had trouble burying the puck in the net this year, but this same bunch has had good scoring success in the past. I expect them to score better next year, even if we kept the same forwards we have right now.

The defense, however, will not be better next year if we keep the same group of guys we have now. A #1/2 guy would bump the #3/4 guys down to where they belong, allowing #5/6 slots to be filled either by guys currently on the roster, or rookies (Elliott, Barrie, or Gaunce).

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I think a #1/2 dman is a bigger need at this time, especially considering one is possibly available (doesn't happen as often as a top 6 winger).

Yes, the Avs forwards had trouble burying the puck in the net this year, but this same bunch has had good scoring success in the past. I expect them to score better next year, even if we kept the same forwards we have right now.

The defense, however, will not be better next year if we keep the same group of guys we have now. A #1/2 guy would bump the #3/4 guys down to where they belong, allowing #5/6 slots to be filled either by guys currently on the roster, or rookies (Elliott, Barrie, or Gaunce).
They most certainly need to add more firepower up front. The question is whether they need to break the bank in order to do so. My answer is no, they don't HAVE to get Parise to have a legit offense, and upgrading the offensive punch from the blueline will help in the scoring department anyway. What they can do is look for upgrades amongst the lower-tier scoring options available on the market. No, not Semin, but there are others.

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What they can do is look for upgrades amongst the lower-tier scoring options available on the market. No, not Semin, but there are others.
like Davey Jones?

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But I think the fact that the Avs outshot their opponents by an average of 2 shots shows that, despite what happened the last few games, the transition game was not actually that bad. *This team was 8th in the league in shots/game *The D-men were getting the puck up to the forwards, and the forwards were generating plenty of shots, but the forwards were not finishing. *I agree with avs1dacup. *A winger that can just knock off the horsehockey and put the puck in the damn net is what this team needs most to be a contender this year. *That's not to say that getting Suter wouldn't be great, but I'd rather see a sniper winger if the Avs can't get both.

Whether or not Duchene and Mueller return to form, it will still hold that the sniper winger will be a bigger difference maker than EJ's partner. *Futhermore, relying on Duchene and Mueller boucing back sounds like a contingency plan to me. *If the Avs get a sniper who's a sure thing for 30+, that's better then getting a top D-man and relying on Mueller and Duchene bouncing back.

The lines you have up there are no different from this season. This team is in dire need of a 30+ goal guy.
Not all shots are the same. *Our team took a lot of low percentage shots, hoping for deflections and rebounds. *Not the worst thing to do when you lack skill or chemistry. *But a lot of those shots do not represent quality scoring chances.*

Our best scoring chances predominantly came from our transition game and the turnovers we forced, and the rare PP. *5-on-5 in the zone we often didn't keep the puck in the zone well enough to create quality chances. *With a guy like Suter back there 24+ minutes a game we'd be able to take our time the way we would on the PP, where we did create good chances and score well. Suter's passing alone will create more goals.

Mueller played well but was obviously gassed. *Now that he's past his PCS he can get that conditioning back and build on the 9 points he scored in our final 14 games. *Duchess will likewise have time together healthy. *I pray that Sacco buttbuddies These two players the way he did Radar and Lando. *They both have a lot to prove and compliment one another's style of play. *

Add the production that those two have shown they're capable of to they uptick in quality scoring chances created by Suter's presence, a little progression from the other guys and hopefully no **** linemate related early season stutters from guys like Jones and Staz, and that's an offense that'll score an above average amount of goals. *Which with progression of the D would make this very young squad a comfortable playoff team.

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Leafs fans and media never blame the players, only the coach and GM.

The fans would instantly fall in love with him.
huh, When Kessel wasn't scoring goals the media was all over him.

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like Davey Jones?
maybe try and go after a guy like parentaeu

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