Its quite possible that EDM lack a big tough dman and Emelin could be part of a package. If we can land a game breaker like Nail Yakupov, I think we should do it. Nail Yakupov will thrive in pressure situations like Montreal. I don't know about Grigorenko. We'll see.
Yakupov is still not worth...3rd + Emelin. Emelin progressed significantly during
the year. He will be our most physical presence on the backend. We need to keep
him...PERIOD!!!!
However we here at last word on sports were able to see Galchenyuk last year, and again in this year’s OHL playoffs when his Sarnia Sting unfortunately lost in 6 games to the Saginaw Spirit. Despite the disappointing results we were very impressed with Galchenyuk. He was dominant and even outshone teammate Nail Yakupov throughout the series. He was at many times the best skater on the ice. His numbers could have been a whole lot better than the 4 pts in 6 games that he produced, but only some very good goaltending by the Spirit goalies kept him off the board. This play should answer any lingering questions about his knee, as it is clear that his speed and agility have not suffered one bit, despite the injury.
Galchenyuk is my choice. Why do I have a feeling Columbus will either pick him or may trade their pick to say Toronto and they pick him.
My only hope is that they want to start building on the backend and take Murray. I see Grigorenko falling on all these reports of his perimetre play and being invisble most of the game.
If Galchenyuk is gone it will become a serious question of Forsberg/Murray/Dumba IMO
I'm hoping they select Gal at 3rd. I believe in the long run he is going to be a great player and better than all others on the board. That's my opinion of course. I'd be disappointed if they don't select him but either way the Habs are going to get a really good building block to move forward with in this draft.
I'm thinking at this point, Galchenyuk, if everyone trusts his knee, is probably the safest pick. Between the work ethic, skating ability and being a year older than Forsberg and Grigorenko, he's probably the least likely to surprise, for better or worse.
I'm thinking at this point, Galchenyuk, if everyone trusts his knee, is probably the safest pick. Between the work ethic, skating ability and being a year older than Forsberg and Grigorenko, he's probably the least likely to surprise, for better or worse.
I won't ever bash on Galchenyuk unlike many of the posters here that are bashing Grigorenko. Gally's sure as a lot of skills and determination, ans he will probably become a great player. But Grigo has a think I barely never seen for a kid at this age...... a thing called adaptation or evolution. The way he progressed and adapt to the NA life and hockey style is something special. The learning of a language in such a short period of time in a city where English isn't the first language is just a prodigy to be honnest. The kid is already an extremely good player who improved a lot of his weaknesses this year. With his ceiling and the way he is progressing I wouldn't pass on him. I will not cry if we draft Gally but in the end, I believe Grigo will end up the best player of the 2.
I won't ever bash on Galchenyuk unlike many of the posters here that are bashing Grigorenko. Gally's sure as a lot of skills and determination, ans he will probably become a great player. But Grigo has a think I barely never seen for a kid at this age...... a thing called adaptation or evolution. The way he progressed and adapt to the NA life and hockey style is something special. The learning of a language in such a short period of time in a city where English isn't the first language is just a prodigy to be honnest. The kid is already an extremely good player who improved a lot of his weaknesses this year. With his ceiling and the way he is progressing I wouldn't pass on him. I will not cry if we draft Gally but in the end, I believe Grigo will end up the best player of the 2.
Agreed. I think he might even end up as the best player of that draft .
No question he could be. I think that at #3 you have to select the guy with the most potential of realizing his ceiling. I also commend Grigo for learning English so well, so quickly. I also do not think he is 100%. IMO the deciding factor in Galchenyuk being drafted over Grigo will be his determination to return from injury. The two are close in skill for sure and it will be a judgement of character and work ethic that will be the deciding factor. Not saying Grigo doesnt have character, because he definitely does.
I'm thinking at this point, Galchenyuk, if everyone trusts his knee, is probably the safest pick. Between the work ethic, skating ability and being a year older than Forsberg and Grigorenko, he's probably the least likely to surprise, for better or worse.
And if anything that's probably a good thing.
He's 3 months older than Grigo (as corrected in an earlier post) and 6 months older than Forsberg.
No question he could be. I think that at #3 you have to select the guy with the most potential of realizing his ceiling. I also commend Grigo for learning English so well, so quickly. I also do not think he is 100%. IMO the deciding factor in Galchenyuk being drafted over Grigo will be his determination to return from injury. The two are close in skill for sure and it will be a judgement of character and work ethic that will be the deciding factor. Not saying Grigo doesnt have character, because he definitely does.
I think both will be great, I am more nervous of Forsberg being taken as a safer pick. I don't think his ceiling will be as high and we have had better luck with Russians than Swedes anyway. With new management lets hope they take their time with developing our prospects and not trading them away so quickly.
No question he could be. I think that at #3 you have to select the guy with the most potential of realizing his ceiling. I also commend Grigo for learning English so well, so quickly. I also do not think he is 100%. IMO the deciding factor in Galchenyuk being drafted over Grigo will be his determination to return from injury. The two are close in skill for sure and it will be a judgement of character and work ethic that will be the deciding factor. Not saying Grigo doesnt have character, because he definitely does.
IMO those 2 are head and shoulders ahead of Forsberg (my opinion) but the reason why I pick Grigo is I believe he will not could become the best player. I guess we will see in 5 to 10 years.
By the way, NHL playoffs are sick to watch again this year. I'm watching Ottawa-NYR right now and the intensity is just crazy.
Agreed. I think he might even end up as the best player of that draft .
Honestly it's a crap shoot. We aren't talking players that will single-handedly carry your team but these guys all have very high ceilings. For me Galchenyuk's speed and physical play go further than Grigorenko's greater creativity. Both guys have the skill.
Yakupov, Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are all very talented players, obviously.
Grigorenko is a cerebral player who possesses the rare ability to slow the game down and leverage his vision to make the right play. His size gives him significant reach which, coupled with his slick hands, helps him to shield the puck and hold onto it longer than others, allowing him to wait until he finds an open man. Everything he does seems effortless, so it's easy to accuse him of having a lower compete level than guys like Galchenyuk and Yakupov, who are both high octane players who play a much more direct style.
If Grigorenko reaches his ceiling potential, he could turn out to be the most valuable player from this draft class, because players of his ilk are so rare. The problem with Grigorenko is that there's a higher likelihood of him not reaching his ceiling potential compared to Galchenyuk and Yakupov. Based on their style of play, both Galchenyuk and Yakupov appear to be safer picks because their intense style of play usually translates nicely to the NHL, and they will likely be less reliant on playing with talented players in order to be successful. With Grigorenko, the risk is two-fold: a) how will he adapt to the faster and more physical NHL? Will he have the drive to fight and compete against men? b) will he be able to produce on a team with below average offensive talent like the Habs?
The Habs brass will undoubtedly carry out their due diligence when they interview Grigorenko, and they'll have to do their best to determine what the answers to these questions are.
Based on the limited information and viewings of each player at my disposal, I would choose Galchenyuk at 3rd overall (assuming Yakupov and Murray are off the board), but man would it be a difficult choice. I like both Gally and Grigs a ton, and I expect both to have very good careers in the NHL.
I won't ever bash on Galchenyuk unlike many of the posters here that are bashing Grigorenko. Gally's sure as a lot of skills and determination, ans he will probably become a great player. But Grigo has a think I barely never seen for a kid at this age...... a thing called adaptation or evolution. The way he progressed and adapt to the NA life and hockey style is something special. The learning of a language in such a short period of time in a city where English isn't the first language is just a prodigy to be honnest. The kid is already an extremely good player who improved a lot of his weaknesses this year. With his ceiling and the way he is progressing I wouldn't pass on him. I will not cry if we draft Gally but in the end, I believe Grigo will end up the best player of the 2.
lastwordonsports.com is more or less a fan blog (at least in the hockey part). One of the people there (might be the one who wrote the article) used to post here, so I'd take those 'reports' with a grain of salt.
Yakupov, Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are all very talented players, obviously.
Grigorenko is a cerebral player who possesses the rare ability to slow the game down and leverage his vision to make the right play. His size gives him significant reach which, coupled with his slick hands, helps him to shield the puck and hold onto it longer than others, allowing him to wait until he finds an open man. Everything he does seems effortless, so it's easy to accuse him of having a lower compete level than guys like Galchenyuk and Yakupov, who are both high octane players who play a much more direct style.
If Grigorenko reaches his ceiling potential, he could turn out to be the most valuable player from this draft class, because players of his ilk are so rare. The problem with Grigorenko is that there's a higher likelihood of him not reaching his ceiling potential compared to Galchenyuk and Yakupov. Based on their style of play, both Galchenyuk and Yakupov appear to be safer picks because their intense style of play usually translates nicely to the NHL, and they will likely be less reliant on playing with talented players in order to be successful. With Grigorenko, the risk is two-fold: a) how will he adapt to the faster and more physical NHL? Will he have the drive to fight and compete against men? b) will he be able to produce on a team with below average offensive talent like the Habs?
The Habs brass will undoubtedly carry out their due diligence when they interview Grigorenko, and they'll have to do their best to determine what the answers to these questions are.
Based on the limited information and viewings of each player at my disposal, I would choose Galchenyuk at 3rd overall (assuming Yakupov and Murray are off the board), but man would it be a difficult choice. I like both Gally and Grigs a ton, and I expect both to have very good careers in the NHL.
I think this is a really accurate analysis of the situation. Living in Quebec city I've got the chance to watch Grigorenko play more than 10 times this year. I watched Gally once since his return and a few times last year. I think Grigo will adapt well to the NHL (he is not NHL ready that is for sure, give himone year at least). That is the reason I would pick him over Galchenyuk, but like I said earlier, those 2 are my 2a/2b options so they are pretty close.
Ohhh so they can have injuries but Grigorenko can't have an ankle injury? Strong logic. Grigorenko is the #1 center of team that will likely go into round 3 of the playoffs. Like it or not, he has 9 pts in 8 games and is +2 when your friend Galchenyuk had 4 pts in 6 games with a -6.
For a first NA season, Grigorenko has nothing to be ashamed of.
Let's not forget that the Q allows about 4 too many teams into their playoffs and that 1st round individual player stats should almost be thrown out the window. You don't get that many mismatches in the OHL or the Dub.
lastwordonsports.com is more or less a fan blog (at least in the hockey part). One of the people there (might be the one who wrote the article) used to post here, so I'd take those 'reports' with a grain of salt.
Yeah the guy who wrote that article is kind of... well let's say he wasn't the most enjoyable person and his opinion were quite homerish, i'm not even sure he watched them play.
With the Habs having 5 2nd round picks between this year and next I would like to see them get a decent goalie prospect soon. You never know with goalies so they need to get some prospects going in the goalie department.
Is it true that is Forsberg was born a week or two later he would of have been in next years draft? If so.. Thats pretty crazy, having a young player like this in TOP5 Concensus..
Yakupov, Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are all very talented players, obviously.
Grigorenko is a cerebral player who possesses the rare ability to slow the game down and leverage his vision to make the right play. His size gives him significant reach which, coupled with his slick hands, helps him to shield the puck and hold onto it longer than others, allowing him to wait until he finds an open man. Everything he does seems effortless, so it's easy to accuse him of having a lower compete level than guys like Galchenyuk and Yakupov, who are both high octane players who play a much more direct style.
If Grigorenko reaches his ceiling potential, he could turn out to be the most valuable player from this draft class, because players of his ilk are so rare. The problem with Grigorenko is that there's a higher likelihood of him not reaching his ceiling potential compared to Galchenyuk and Yakupov. Based on their style of play, both Galchenyuk and Yakupov appear to be safer picks because their intense style of play usually translates nicely to the NHL, and they will likely be less reliant on playing with talented players in order to be successful. With Grigorenko, the risk is two-fold: a) how will he adapt to the faster and more physical NHL? Will he have the drive to fight and compete against men? b) will he be able to produce on a team with below average offensive talent like the Habs?
The Habs brass will undoubtedly carry out their due diligence when they interview Grigorenko, and they'll have to do their best to determine what the answers to these questions are.
Based on the limited information and viewings of each player at my disposal, I would choose Galchenyuk at 3rd overall (assuming Yakupov and Murray are off the board), but man would it be a difficult choice. I like both Gally and Grigs a ton, and I expect both to have very good careers in the NHL.
This is exactly my opinion on the matter as well. Well said.
