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04-11-2012, 09:04 PM
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Petry vs. Player X

Jeff Petry- USHL Defenseman of the Year
Player X- BCHL Defenseman of the Year

Jeff Petry, Michigan State (NCAA)- 118 GP, 9-58-67 (0.57 PPG)
Player X, Michigan State (NCAA)- 56 GP, 6-18-24 (0.43 PPG)

Jeff Petry, 23/24- 73 GP, 2-23-25, 21:45 TOI/G (2:29 SH)
Player X, 23/24- 82 GP, 2-29-31, 23:35 TOI/G (3:32 SH)

Player X is of course Duncan Keith. Many of the quotes from 2006/07 are similar- they talk of his great wheels, great composure, and rapidly developing ability to handle tough assignments. If Petry develops into a Keith-lite, all the better for the rebuild.

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04-11-2012, 11:37 PM
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Nice comparison, I don't like the Keith-lite monicker though. If Jeff packs on 10-15 lbs over this summer with his workout plan Duncan is going to be calling him Mr. Petry.

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They are simliar for sure. If they line Petry up on the powerplay with RNH, Hall, Eberle and Yakupov I could see him putting up 60+ points.

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Keith has looked like crap this year.

Petry has actually looked better than Keith this year from the games Ive seen.

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If Petry can become a solid #2 for us that helps the rebuild tremendously. I was very impressed by his development this year.

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Yeah D-men are a crapshoot....that's why you don't draft them in the top 5. You never know how they will develop.

Petry might be better than Klefbom, and we grabbed him in the 2nd round.

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Yeah D-men are a crapshoot....that's why you don't draft them in the top 5. You never know how they will develop.

Petry might be better than Klefbom, and we grabbed him in the 2nd round.
And forwards are never unpredictable?? Datsyk was drafted in the 4th round. Richards and Sharp in the 3rd.

I get the idea, but come on. There are crapshoots at all the positions.

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And forwards are never unpredictable?? Datsyk was drafted in the 4th round. Richards and Sharp in the 3rd.

I get the idea, but come on. There are crapshoots at all the positions.
Datsyuk is different. Just because someone is a first round talent doesn't mean you'll take them there if you know you can get them later. Kind of like Gernat last season. It's looking like we could have a major steal there.


That said, I certainly don't think we have seen Petry's ceiling by any means

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Datsyuk is different. Just because someone is a first round talent doesn't mean you'll take them there if you know you can get them later. Kind of like Gernat last season. It's looking like we could have a major steal there.


That said, I certainly don't think we have seen Petry's ceiling by any means
what? So he should have been a first rounder, the wings just new they could get him later. Wouldn't that also apply to Lidstrom?


Any way, there is a good post about it in the YAkupov thread. No doubt, D men come with more variance, however, that doens't mean you pass up on them no matter what.

I take Yakupov with #1, but still, if I am #2 I take murray and I don't think twice about it.

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And forwards are never unpredictable?? Datsyk was drafted in the 4th round. Richards and Sharp in the 3rd.

I get the idea, but come on. There are crapshoots at all the positions.
That's why I said top 5.

I think there are less forwards that are busts at first overall than d-men.

I mean look at Johnson, Hedman, Bogosian, and Schenn.

I just feel that's not the best place to grab a d-man.

I mean Doughty and Pietrangelo are good, but even then.

I don't know if this makes much sense, it was just my thoughts on the subject.

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I remember comparing Petry to Keith a couple of years ago, and boy, was I ever ridiculed.

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That's why I said top 5.

I think there are less forwards that are busts at first overall than d-men.

I mean look at Johnson, Hedman, Bogosian, and Schenn.

I just feel that's not the best place to grab a d-man.

I mean Doughty and Pietrangelo are good, but even then.

I don't know if this makes much sense, it was just my thoughts on the subject.
Your right imo. It goes Goalies>Defencemen>Forwards as far as the risk in drafting them high. That doesn't mean you don't see great defencemen or even goalies drafted in the top 5 or 6, just that there is more risk involved when you do it.

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I was reading great things about Petry ever since he started playing College hockey. He stumbled a little when he went pro, but that's not surprising considering the speed of the professional game, the size of the guys you're facing and how many games you play per year.

I think he's doing exactly what scouts said he could do from the start... the only thing is that we kinda forgot about his potential because his development slowed a bit when he went pro..

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Justin Schultz came out of the BCHL too, right? Can we line him up there as well?

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Justin Schultz came out of the BCHL too, right? Can we line him up there as well?
They aren't really comparable by the numbers, but there's one player I've wanted the Oilers to select for going on two years now that is everything Keith was at the same age:

Player Y, 17/18- 54 GP, 60 pts (BCHL)
Keith, 17/18- 60 GP, 82 pts (BCHL)

Player Y, 19/20- 43 GP, 38 pts (NCAA)
Keith, 19/20- 37 GP, 46 pts (WHL)

Keith, in his draft year- 5'11 180 lbs
Player Y, in his draft year- 5'10 181 lbs

29 teams are going to absolutely regret it for letting this guy go by them three or even more times.

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They aren't really comparable by the numbers, but there's one player I've wanted the Oilers to select for going on two years now that is everything Keith was at the same age:

Player Y, 17/18- 54 GP, 60 pts (BCHL)
Keith, 17/18- 60 GP, 82 pts (BCHL)

Player Y, 19/20- 43 GP, 38 pts (NCAA)
Keith, 19/20- 37 GP, 46 pts (WHL)

Keith, in his draft year- 5'11 180 lbs
Player Y, in his draft year- 5'10 181 lbs

29 teams are going to absolutely regret it for letting this guy go by them three or even more times.
Damn. That's really impressive for a freshman. E-mail Stu with a full report!

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