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Galchenyuk is not unsafe. He'll prove to be the second best player of this draft.

Just becuase he was the victim of a freak injury and missed this season doesn't mean he's injury prone.
He will be the best overall player of this draft. Honestly, i see him as Kopitar (I've been told I'm wrong multiple times, but every time i watch Galchenyuk that who i see) hopefully he has a similar rookie season as well.

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I just hope we get one of Gally, Forsberg, or Grigs... Though I want Gally the most by a lot

The Leafs haven't had a forward prospect like that since Kadri, and to be frank Leafs nation needs a shiny new toy to play with because they sure as hell have nearly broken Kadri. Hopefully drafting a forward prospect will take a lot of attention off of Naz so he can do his thing at the NHL level and develop into a quality player.

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He will be the best overall player of this draft. Honestly, i see him as Kopitar (I've been told I'm wrong multiple times, but every time i watch Galchenyuk that who i see) hopefully he has a similar rookie season as well.
Best might be a stretch, Nail is a dynamite player. if he ends up on that Oilers team beside Hopkins and Hall he'll put up ridiculous numbers.

Gally has just as much raw talent though, and size to boot. Had he been healthy this season we'd be taking about who's going #1.

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Best might be a stretch, Nail is a dynamite player. if he ends up on that Oilers team beside Hopkins and Hall he'll put up ridiculous numbers.

Gally has just as much raw talent though, and size to boot. Had he been healthy this season we'd be taking about who's going #1.
Said best overall, meaning overall game. Still think Yaks will be better offensively, however in the long run id prefer Galchenyuk.

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Said best overall, meaning overall game. Still think Yaks will be better offensively, however in the long run id prefer Galchenyuk.
Ya thats fair. Although Yakky's extra offense might even things out and tip in his favor even. For the Leafs needs Galchenyuk fits the bill better than any player available in the draft, especially since we already have Kessel on RW going forward. He'd be the PERFECT piece for us and if Burke gets a tingle of a doubt he won't be available when we pick I'd hope he wouldn't think twice about trading up to get him! If the Habs nab him im gunna puke.

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Galchenyuk is not unsafe. He'll prove to be the second best player of this draft.

Just becuase he was the victim of a freak injury and missed this season doesn't mean he's injury prone.
Why so defensive Alex?

Lets just pretend he didn't miss the entire season with a knee injury then.

Maybe you're too young to remember former 1sts like Berehowski or Nylund?

Don't get me wrong, he's a risk I'd be willing to take...if Forsberg is gone that is.

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Not enough talk about our possible 2nd round selections.

2 players that are getting very underlooked.

Anton Slepyshev (Semin-lite) - kid has great hands, and an awesome shot. He could be an elite sniper if developed properly. Not the fastest guy, nor the best defensively but he has loads of raw talent. Would be really frustrated if we passed on him. Would look great alongside Grabo in a couple years. I would not be surprised if Slepy could score around 30 goals yearly.

Mark Jankowski (Thornton-lite) - this guy really caught my eye when I read some scouting reports. Recently grew around 5 inches he's now is 6'3. When he grows into his frame he could potentially be extremely dominant. He's big, not afraid of contact, has a good shot and can make some great nifty plays. Button feels that Jans can be as good as anyone in the draft in a couple of years. (Similar to how our management felt about Leivo last year).


I'm tired of hearing names such as Wilson. Guy does not have the talent to be anything more than a 20-30 point bottom 6er. Do not want him. I want potential top talent.
I wouldn't mind drafting one of Vasilevski/Subban/Dansk as well. Or some others such as G. Smith or Scissons.

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Not enough talk about our possible 2nd round selections.

2 players that are getting very underlooked.

Anton Slepyshev (Semin-lite) - kid has great hands, and an awesome shot. He could be an elite sniper if developed properly. Not the fastest guy, nor the best defensively but he has loads of raw talent. Would be really frustrated if we passed on him. Would look great alongside Grabo in a couple years. I would not be surprised if Slepy could score around 30 goals yearly.

Mark Jankowski (Thornton-lite) - this guy really caught my eye when I read some scouting reports. Recently grew around 5 inches he's now is 6'3. When he grows into his frame he could potentially be extremely dominant. He's big, not afraid of contact, has a good shot and can make some great nifty plays. Button feels that Jans can be as good as anyone in the draft in a couple of years. (Similar to how our management felt about Leivo last year).


I'm tired of hearing names such as Wilson. Guy does not have the talent to be anything more than a 20-30 point bottom 6er. Do not want him. I want potential top talent.
I wouldn't mind drafting one of Vasilevski/Subban/Dansk as well. Or some others such as G. Smith or Scissons.
Good point Phion.... Seems like the Leafs have a great depth of potential quality bottom 6ers, perhaps it's time to go for some boom or bust types in the second round and latter rounds?

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Here's a few 2nd round options. Both defensemen cause we'll probably end up with a forward in the 1st.


http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=30181

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=55867

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Hey guys, I'm wondering what the chances of Forsberg moving to C are? Is he playing C or wing right now at the U18s, and is he capable of being a C. If so, or he can be converted a la Patrick Kane, I say you take him and don't look back.

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Good point Phion.... Seems like the Leafs have a great depth of potential quality bottom 6ers, perhaps it's time to go for some boom or bust types in the second round and latter rounds?
Thanks old man

And yea, I really think we're set on bottom 6ers. Unless its a big mean potential 3rd line CENTER. On the wings we have Biggs, Ross, Frattin, Ashton, maybe Kadri depending on how he develops + Brown/Kulemin.

We do not have any bottom 6 C's other than maybe Nicholls, Carrick, but they are all long shots. And none of them are as good defensively or as truculent as Burkie likes his 3rd line C's.

Gaunce would be awesome there. To bad he's going to be going in the 10-12ish area. Also wouldn't mind Hertl/Girgensons if we could move up our 2nd rounder to a mid/late 1st.

For me its either great #3 C or top potential talents.

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love the apparent drop off after the top 5 in this draft, so glad we snuck our way into it. I think this pick will be an easy one for our scouts, i think we take whoever falls to us between grig, galy, murray, forsberg. im starting to hope its forsberg

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Hey guys, I'm wondering what the chances of Forsberg moving to C are? Is he playing C or wing right now at the U18s, and is he capable of being a C. If so, or he can be converted a la Patrick Kane, I say you take him and don't look back.
I don't think he could play C personally. He has taken around 5 faceoffs this whole year (iirc). I think he will be a winger, at least until he fills out a bit. He doesn't have the shiftiness or offensive talent that Kane has to be successful at C yet. If he becomes a physical force then that could be re-evaluated. But that wouldn't be until around 5ish years anyways. If we don't have a #1 C by then we're screwed lol.

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Hey guys, I'm wondering what the chances of Forsberg moving to C are? Is he playing C or wing right now at the U18s, and is he capable of being a C. If so, or he can be converted a la Patrick Kane, I say you take him and don't look back.
I didn't see him today.

But I'm sure he's got more than enough talent to become a very good centermen. It's probably more about comfort.

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For someone more informed, how does Forsberg rate in comparison to Landeskog, Zibanejad? If he is truly on their level I'll be happy with him but would love Galchenyuk. Either way 1-7 incl as wildcards Dumba, Reilly or someone going off the board, given the lack of sure things, I think well end up with our choice of 2-3 high quality prospects at the very least and that IS something to look forward to

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If the top 3 forwards are gone, and Murray, lets trade down with Anaheim

I'm warming up to this idea very much. If all the forwards are gone with Forsberg left, I would not mind trading down with Anaheim. We all know Anaheim will take a forward to help with their depth issues on forward, let them take Forsberg, we get an extra asset from them, and we get Dumba.

A chance to have Dumba and Gardiner be an excellent 1-2 for us in the future. They could be our version of Weber/Suter. Plus we get an additional asset for trading down. I really like the idea of trading down if Galy and Grig are gone as well as Murray.


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I'm warming up to this idea very much. If all the forwards are gone with Forsberg left, I would not mind trading down with Anaheim. We all know Anaheim will take a forward to help with their depth issues on forward, let them take Forsberg, we get an extra asset from them, and we get Dumba.

A chance to have Dumba and Gardiner be an excellent 1-2 for us in the future. They could be our version of Weber/Suter. Plus we get an additional asset for trading down. I really like the idea of trading down if Galy and Grig are gone as well as Murray.
You won't get anything for moving down just 1 spot.

If the Ducks like someone enough they'll do a deal with the Islanders or Habs and jump us.


Also if we're taking a defensemen I'd much prefer Murray.

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You won't get anything for moving down just 1 spot.

If the Ducks like someone enough they'll do a deal with the Islanders or Habs and jump us.


Also if we're taking a defensemen I'd much prefer Murray.
If Anaheim is really high on Forsberg and doesn't want to take the chance of us taking him they'll give us something. Also I'm assuming Murray will be gone. I expect CBJ to take him.

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If Anaheim is really high on Forsberg and doesn't want to take the chance of us taking him they'll give us something. Also I'm assuming Murray will be gone. I expect CBJ to take him.

Well first off if Forsberg is there at 5, We're picking him.


Also, The title of your post was if the 3 forwards(after Yakupov presumably) we're gone. That would still leave Murray on the board.

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I do get the argument if things end up going that way. Though at the same time I kind of lean towards staying and grabbing Forsberg. Maybe if the Ducks really want Forsberg it's something to consider, but I wouldn't be seeking the move. Would rather stay and grab the best guy we can.

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I'm warming up to this idea very much. If all the forwards are gone with Forsberg left, I would not mind trading down with Anaheim. We all know Anaheim will take a forward to help with their depth issues on forward, let them take Forsberg, we get an extra asset from them, and we get Dumba.

A chance to have Dumba and Gardiner be an excellent 1-2 for us in the future. They could be our version of Weber/Suter. Plus we get an additional asset for trading down. I really like the idea of trading down if Galy and Grig are gone as well as Murray.
Why would that be better than picking a potential first line player in Forsberg?

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I'm warming up to this idea very much. If all the forwards are gone with Forsberg left, I would not mind trading down with Anaheim. We all know Anaheim will take a forward to help with their depth issues on forward, let them take Forsberg, we get an extra asset from them, and we get Dumba.

A chance to have Dumba and Gardiner be an excellent 1-2 for us in the future. They could be our version of Weber/Suter. Plus we get an additional asset for trading down. I really like the idea of trading down if Galy and Grig are gone as well as Murray.
We need a Forsberg type forward far more than Anaheim.

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Not enough talk about our possible 2nd round selections.

2 players that are getting very underlooked.

Anton Slepyshev (Semin-lite) - kid has great hands, and an awesome shot. He could be an elite sniper if developed properly. Not the fastest guy, nor the best defensively but he has loads of raw talent. Would be really frustrated if we passed on him. Would look great alongside Grabo in a couple years. I would not be surprised if Slepy could score around 30 goals yearly.

Mark Jankowski (Thornton-lite) - this guy really caught my eye when I read some scouting reports. Recently grew around 5 inches he's now is 6'3. When he grows into his frame he could potentially be extremely dominant. He's big, not afraid of contact, has a good shot and can make some great nifty plays. Button feels that Jans can be as good as anyone in the draft in a couple of years. (Similar to how our management felt about Leivo last year).


I'm tired of hearing names such as Wilson. Guy does not have the talent to be anything more than a 20-30 point bottom 6er. Do not want him. I want potential top talent.
I wouldn't mind drafting one of Vasilevski/Subban/Dansk as well. Or some others such as G. Smith or Scissons.
If they go forward in round 1, I'd like to see a defenseman in round 2. Usually, I wouldn't care, but the draft is heavy on defensemen, so one with top-four potential should be there at 35th.

Those two you mentioned, however, are players on my shortlist also. Really interested to see what Slepyshev brings to the table at the U-18s.

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We need a Forsberg type forward far more than Anaheim.
Maybe Anaheim wants Forsberg to replace Perry going to the Leafs?


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