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03-20-2012, 11:08 AM
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I see that Ales Kilnar had a pretty decent season for Vitkovice juniors this year:

39 GP, 28-23-51, plus-28, 107 PM (55 of those came in two games), 9 PPG, 3 SHG, 4 GWG.

He has adequate size at a listed 6' 0, 185 pounds, and is one of the older first-time eligible players for this draft with an early October 1993 birthdate.

What's your take on Kilnar's skill set (skating, speed, hockey sense, etc.), and what would you say are the chances he is drafted and/or opts to come to North America next season to play major junior?

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Sidlik and Volek are free for U18 WJC after the first round, great!

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Anyone over there in the Czech Republic, or Europe in general, have any first-hand eyewitness knowledge of Kilnar's game? Those numbers in so few games are pretty tough to ignore...

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I see that Ales Kilnar had a pretty decent season for Vitkovice juniors this year:

39 GP, 28-23-51, plus-28, 107 PM (55 of those came in two games), 9 PPG, 3 SHG, 4 GWG.

He has adequate size at a listed 6' 0, 185 pounds, and is one of the older first-time eligible players for this draft with an early October 1993 birthdate.

What's your take on Kilnar's skill set (skating, speed, hockey sense, etc.), and what would you say are the chances he is drafted and/or opts to come to North America next season to play major junior?

Thanks.

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some good reading in english which I missed when it came out:
http://www.iihf.com/competition/292/...ash=bc0ce0a34e
http://www.iihf.com/competition/292/...ash=9c07b75c32

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Anyone over there in the Czech Republic, or Europe in general, have any first-hand eyewitness knowledge of Kilnar's game? Those numbers in so few games are pretty tough to ignore...
I have not, hopefully somebody will respond sooner or later.

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some good reading in english which I missed when it came out:
http://www.iihf.com/competition/292/...ash=bc0ce0a34e
http://www.iihf.com/competition/292/...ash=9c07b75c32



I have not, hopefully somebody will respond sooner or later.
Soft and quick hands, good shot, decent skater, good offensive instinct and vision.
Doesn´t work hard without the puck, lazy on backcheck, poor defensively, doesn´t like being hit, lacks grit, intensity, determination.
NHL skills, hockey sense but won´t be more than Extraleague player.

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Soft and quick hands, good shot, decent skater, good offensive instinct and vision.
Doesn´t work hard without the puck, lazy on backcheck, poor defensively, doesn´t like being hit, lacks grit, intensity, determination.
NHL skills, hockey sense but won´t be more than Extraleague player.
I said "somebody" but I knew just like everybody else it would be you You know your prospects sir.

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Soft and quick hands, good shot, decent skater, good offensive instinct and vision.
Doesn´t work hard without the puck, lazy on backcheck, poor defensively, doesn´t like being hit, lacks grit, intensity, determination.
NHL skills, hockey sense but won´t be more than Extraleague player.
Thank you, sir.

None of the negatives seem to be anything that can't be coached out of him. The big question, which probably none of us can answer, is how much does he want to be an NHL player.

I would question the "lacks grit and intensity" statement, based on his PIM totals and the fact that half of that total came in just a couple or games. Sounds like he was pretty intense, at least in those few games, to me... and even 50 PM in a 40-game season indicates that he'll get involved in some way.

But I will defer to your more intimate knowledge of the players over there. Thanks for your insight.

Any possibility he crosses over to play major junior next year?

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04-18-2012, 04:09 PM
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CHL playoff stats

OHL skaters
NamePositionClubGPGAPTS+/-PIMYoB
Milan DouderaDNiagara IceDogs2000-101993
Radek FaksaCKitchener Rangers13246-3101994
Patrik MachačCBrampton Battalion8112-281994

QMJHL skaters
NamePositionClubGPGAPTS+/-PIMYoB
Jakub CulekLWRimouski Océanic214711+2281992
Tomáš FilippiCBaie-Comeau Drakkar8189-381992
Martin FrkRWHalifax Mooseheads1756110261993
Tomáš HykaRWGatineau Olympiques4112-501993
Denis KindlCCape Breton Screaming Eagles1000-601992
Lukáš SedlákCChicoutimi Saguenéens18538-2181993
Petr StrakaRWRimouski Océanic21101222-161992
Petr ŠidlíkDVictoriaville Tigres4000+141994

WHL skaters
NamePositionClubGPGAPTS+/-PIMYoB
Marek HrbasDKamloops Blazers11224+341993
Marek KalusLWSpokane Chiefs7011-621993
Lukáš KrálíkRWVictoria Royals1000001993
Michal PlutnarDTri-City Americans15011+541994
Robin SoudekRWVictoria Royals4202-301991
Matěj StránskýRWSaskatoon Blades4112-121993
Dominik UherCSpokane Chiefs13549-661992
Dominik VolekLWRegina Pats4011-221994

All goalies
NameClubGPWinsGAShutoutsAvg.%YoB
David HonzíkVictoriaville Tigres301005.33.8041993
Matěj MachovskýBrampton Battalion842012.28.9001993
Petr MrázekOttawa 67's1794602.59.9261992
Jaroslav PavelkaWindsor Spitfires401403.71.8971993
Roman WillMoncton Wildcats401905.56.8431992


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It's a little bit late, but these are CSS final rankings as they came out couple of weeks ago. I see there only 4 100% locks but anything can happen on the draft day as we saw last year. 8-10 seems quite possible.

007 FAKSA, RADEK
020 FRK, MARTIN
045 HYKA, TOMAS
097 BERAN, MATEJ
156 PAVELKA, TOMAS
163 VOLEK, DOMINIK
182 PLUTNAR, MICHAL
190 MACHAC, PATRIK

08 BARTOSAK, PATRIK
14 MACHOVSKY, MATEJ
22 WILL, ROMAN
27 PAVELKA, JAROSLAV

005 HERTL, TOMAS
026 NEMEC, ERIK
038 KILNAR, ALES
039 IZACKY, JAKUB
040 KOBLASA, PETR
041 NEJEZCHLEB, RICHARD
060 KNOT, RONALD
062 PROCHAZKA, MARTIN
071 NOSEK, TOMAS
075 ZADRAZIL, MATEJ
076 HAWLIK, ADAM
081 SLOVACEK, ONDREJ
086 SULAK, LIBOR
091 BITTNER, JAN
095 PLASIL, KAREL
118 SEKAC, JIRI

05 LANGHAMER, MAREK

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(in Czech) post U18-WJC talkshow (24. 4. 2012): Ota Černý, Miroslav Přerost, Luděk Bukač Sr.

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilan...na-slovicko-s/

Bukač repeatedly said exactly what I'm thinking. The key today to improve youth hockey is to let people like Lener, Přerost etc. do what they are doing right now and everybody in hockey should help them as much as he can, because unconstructive critique solves nothing. And in the first place (which I deduced from their words) the coaches and other people in hockey must not be reluctant to do what they are told to do by these people.

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too bad Robert Reichel won't continue as the coach of U17 next year. But there is a chance he could take over U19 instead. Hope that happens.

and there is slightly optimistic interview with Slavomír Lener: http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/hokej-...o-zrcadla.html

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It's a little bit late, but these are CSS final rankings as they came out couple of weeks ago. I see there only 4 100% locks but anything can happen on the draft day as we saw last year. 8-10 seems quite possible.

007 FAKSA, RADEK
020 FRK, MARTIN
045 HYKA, TOMAS
097 BERAN, MATEJ
156 PAVELKA, TOMAS
163 VOLEK, DOMINIK
182 PLUTNAR, MICHAL
190 MACHAC, PATRIK

08 BARTOSAK, PATRIK
14 MACHOVSKY, MATEJ
22 WILL, ROMAN
27 PAVELKA, JAROSLAV

005 HERTL, TOMAS
026 NEMEC, ERIK
038 KILNAR, ALES
039 IZACKY, JAKUB
040 KOBLASA, PETR
041 NEJEZCHLEB, RICHARD
060 KNOT, RONALD
062 PROCHAZKA, MARTIN
071 NOSEK, TOMAS
075 ZADRAZIL, MATEJ
076 HAWLIK, ADAM
081 SLOVACEK, ONDREJ
086 SULAK, LIBOR
091 BITTNER, JAN
095 PLASIL, KAREL
118 SEKAC, JIRI

05 LANGHAMER, MAREK
From what I've seen, heard and what I think, the following guys will be drafted:

Faksa
Hertl
Frk
Hyka
Beran
Volek
Pavelka
Plutnar
Langhammer
Knot

And in the late rounds I wouldn't be surprise if Krejci and/or Zamorsky were also selected. I know both are overage for the draft, but they had great WJC's and could be on some teams radar.

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(in Czech) post U18-WJC talkshow (24. 4. 2012): Ota Černý, Miroslav Přerost, Luděk Bukač Sr.

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilan...na-slovicko-s/

Bukač repeatedly said exactly what I'm thinking. The key today to improve youth hockey is to let people like Lener, Přerost etc. do what they are doing right now and everybody in hockey should help them as much as he can, because unconstructive critique solves nothing. And in the first place (which I deduced from their words) the coaches and other people in hockey must not be reluctant to do what they are told to do by these people.
I haven't seen the programme, but this argument definitely comes up many times in discussions about how to improve our youth hockey. The lack of desire for current junior coaches to be told that what they are doing is not good enough seems to be the biggest challenge to overcome.

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I haven't seen the programme, but this argument definitely comes up many times in discussions about how to improve our youth hockey. The lack of desire for current junior coaches to be told that what they are doing is not good enough seems to be the biggest challenge to overcome.
That's supposedly a real problem in the US right now as well. USA Hockey is trying to implement many of the sames concepts and too many coaches and parents are completely disregarding the advice because they think they know better. Perhaps over time the coaches that do embrace it and have some success developing players who go far will help change people's opinions.

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David Musil´s little brother Adam has been selected 6th overall in the WHL Bantam Draf by the Red Deer Rebels. Will he be eligible to play for CZE? Eliteprospects lists him as Canadian citizen only, but since the family lived in CZE for a few years, I expect he has Czech citizenship too. But at the recent U18 Div IB WC Norbert Hári (HUN/SWE citizen) was not allowed to play for Hungary despite having played 4 years in Hungarian competitions (therefore seemingly fulfilling IIHF criteria for double citizens) prior to moving to Sweden at age 12 with his family because he was supposedly too young during this 4 years, so this might apply to Adam as well.

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David Musil´s little brother Adam has been selected 6th overall in the WHL Bantam Draf by the Red Deer Rebels. Will he be eligible to play for CZE? Eliteprospects lists him as Canadian citizen only, but since the family lived in CZE for a few years, I expect he has Czech citizenship too. But at the recent U18 Div IB WC Norbert Hári (HUN/SWE citizen) was not allowed to play for Hungary despite having played 4 years in Hungarian competitions (therefore seemingly fulfilling IIHF criteria for double citizens) prior to moving to Sweden at age 12 with his family because he was supposedly too young during this 4 years, so this might apply to Adam as well.
I know about his existence for a while already. I don't know the rules, but I'd be surprised if he ever played for CZE. I guess it will also depend if he makes some (U16?) Canadian teams. If he does, he probably won't have any reason to even try to go this way.

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I know about his existence for a while already. I don't know the rules, but I'd be surprised if he ever played for CZE. I guess it will also depend if he makes some (U16?) Canadian teams. If he does, he probably won't have any reason to even try to go this way.
What about playing in the same national team with his brother?

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What about playing in the same national team with his brother?
Well, considering the age difference between them, they could possibly only play together in the men´s NT, which is way´s and way´s away for them right now.

Also, did he leave to Canada when David started playing in the WHL that would make him 12 at that time and IIHF might not allow him to play CZE.

zorz, Canadians have no U16 team like European teams do (though I think they had some kind of camp for them this year), the nationwide national team starts at the U18 level with them. But in U17 he could play in one of the province teams during the U17 World Hockey Challenge.

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short discussion on čt from today: Robert Záruba, Martin Hosták, Luděk Bukač Jr.

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/mshokej/...u-tvrdi-bukac/

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Not Czech prospect, but Croatian one that plays in Czech. Ivan Puzić (1996.) defender, plays for Vitkovice Steel two seasons already. This season 29 games 25 points +67 for U16 team, 15 games, 2 asists, +5 for U18 team.

If someone watched him, I would be thankful to read some report on him.

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Dominik Volek is leaving CHL and going to Sweden. Quite unusual move at this point. Let's hope it will work well for him.

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Dominik Volek is leaving CHL and going to Sweden. Quite unusual move at this point. Let's hope it will work well for him.
Weird. Considering he's likely to be taken in the draft, I wonder why he'd do that. Will this affect whether or not he's selected?

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Dominik Volek is leaving CHL and going to Sweden. Quite unusual move at this point. Let's hope it will work well for him.
so it´s fourth country in four years
to be honest, I don´t like it.

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http://allhockey.ru/news/124262/

Sibir GM says there is a chance that Jaskin will play there in the future (not 12/13 season). I wonder if there's something real behind that, but maybe he spoke to his father who was also in Chelyabinsk.

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http://allhockey.ru/news/124262/

Sibir GM says there is a chance that Jaskin will play there in the future (not 12/13 season). I wonder if there's something real behind that, but maybe he spoke to his father who was also in Chelyabinsk.
Well Jaskin had better up his game from last season!

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