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04-11-2012, 07:17 PM
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Well, players don't exactly like Edmonton. Heatley refused to go there. Nylander made a verbal agreement, and changed his mind. The decent players that they've accumulated is for the most part through the draft.
worrisome for some of us who believe our nice group of prospects and the bright future they imply would be a draw for an established star FA. Or maybe the organization just has a really really bad reputation among players.

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04-11-2012, 07:20 PM
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worrisome for some of us who believe our nice group of prospects and the bright future they imply would be a draw for an established star FA. Or maybe the organization just has a really really bad reputation among players.
I'm sure players notice how this is a franchise where goal scorers go to die. It doesn't matter who's coach or GM, it's simply in the blood. Players had been given free will at times (since JL left) to go offense or bust, but they just can't do it.

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i'm sure players notice how this is a franchise where goal scorers go to die. it doesn't matter who's coach or gm, it's simply in the blood. Players had been given free will at times (since jl left) to go offense or bust, but they just can't do it.
*insert mikko koivu comment to the ire of oth*

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I think he's not very good with English and people are misinterpreting what he meant to say.

To me, it sounds like he just wants Edmonton to keep him in the NHL.
He was squeezed out by all the high draftees, now Yakupov...

Considering the response by Tambellini, it's definitely him asking for a trade.

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What about Bouchard (if healthy) for Mike Green if the Wild miss out on Suter, Carle, and Wideman on July 1?

Green needs a change of scenary bad.

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What about Bouchard (if healthy) for Mike Green if the Wild miss out on Suter, Carle, and Wideman on July 1?

Green needs a change of scenary bad.
I don't think that it's possible for Bouchard to be healthy enough for any team to offer value for him. I wouldn't mind a trade for Green, but I can't imagine any way that Washington would even consider that deal with Bouchard's injury history.

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04-13-2012, 12:39 PM
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I'm sure we're going to be targeting to make a big trade if we don't get a Parise or Suter. I wonder who would be available that we could get. I'm not sure how keen I am on trading our prospects or picks. I'm thinking the trading thing should only happen if a good deal comes along because I don't think there's any way we can get a good player without giving up a Coyle or Granlund. I'm thinking our only "untouchables" are Granlund, Coyle, and Brodin.

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Bouchard alone doesn't come close to Mike Green. Bouchard + 1st maybe.

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I'm sure we're going to be targeting to make a big trade if we don't get a Parise or Suter. I wonder who would be available that we could get. I'm not sure how keen I am on trading our prospects or picks. I'm thinking the trading thing should only happen if a good deal comes along because I don't think there's any way we can get a good player without giving up a Coyle or Granlund. I'm thinking our only "untouchables" are Granlund, Coyle, and Brodin.
I don't think that's the case at all. Fletcher seems to be content to just build from within. The only name player I can see us trading is Clutterbuck (well, Latendresse's RFA rights are on the board too, but I don't think that qualifies). I don't think Fletcher would move any of our blue chip prospects at this point either because they just don't have the value to other teams that they have to us.

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I don't think that's the case at all. Fletcher seems to be content to just build from within. The only name player I can see us trading is Clutterbuck (well, Latendresse's RFA rights are on the board too, but I don't think that qualifies). I don't think Fletcher would move any of our blue chip prospects at this point either because they just don't have the value to other teams that they have to us.
He did make a big splash last summer, but I just think he's going to want to swing a trade for a bigger guy to help with scoring. He's not afraid to pull the trigger, it wouldn't surprise me to see him deal something away.

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He did make a big splash last summer, but I just think he's going to want to swing a trade for a bigger guy to help with scoring. He's not afraid to pull the trigger, it wouldn't surprise me to see him deal something away.
He made a splash last summer because he wanted to rebuild the prospect pool. Burns was a potential complete loss if no action was taken right then, so he was proactive about it. Havlat-Heatley was a lateral move. This year, we don't have the same desperate need, and we don't have the same "potentially lost for nothing" sort of piece as Burns. If someone approaches Fletcher with a big splash deal, I'm sure he'll consider it. However, I don't think he'll be looking around trying to make that happen; it'll only happen if someone else approaches him.

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04-15-2012, 06:36 PM
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Total, Total stretch but on the CBS boards pens fans are saying they should trade Malkin for prospects & picks to strengthen their D & restart a youth movement & dump 9 million in salary.. I know its just angry fan talk but just for fun what would a trade package be for him?

Minnesota's 1st this year & next our 2nd & Coyle?

Minnesota's 1st, 2nd, Granlund & Clutterbuck?

I honestly dont even know what would be worth giving up to aquire him but if you could pull a trade that lets us keep Granlund that would be EPIC.

If you got Malkin, Parise would probably be super interested in coming.

Malkin, Parise, Koivu, Heatley, Setoguchi & Granlund as a top 6.

Thats a top 6 to drool about...

Don't think it would happen in a million years but still curious.. haha

GMCF & the Penguins do have a history & CF wants to show we're serious about winning.. hahaha

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Bringing in a high-caliber player such as Malkin seems like a double-edged sword. We would have to mortgage our future and present just to bring him in - then we have to consider the possibility that he doesn't like it here, doesn't develop chemistry with anyone, doesn't like the management, or doesn't mesh with our team's style of play.

tl;dr - His value is way too high.

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04-15-2012, 07:24 PM
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He made a splash last summer because he wanted to rebuild the prospect pool. Burns was a potential complete loss if no action was taken right then, so he was proactive about it. Havlat-Heatley was a lateral move. This year, we don't have the same desperate need, and we don't have the same "potentially lost for nothing" sort of piece as Burns. If someone approaches Fletcher with a big splash deal, I'm sure he'll consider it. However, I don't think he'll be looking around trying to make that happen; it'll only happen if someone else approaches him.
Agree with alk but gmcf not approaching anyone, while i agree he wont be working the lines i think after free agency he might inquire about moving a forward for a youngish d with room to grow. Tho i think for this situation to happen something else will trigger it.

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04-17-2012, 01:03 PM
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Maybe this trade makes sense to you guys but I see no reason for the Wild to do it at this current time:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1168997

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In a Value of: Brooks Orpik thread, I offered Setoguchi + a 2nd for my favorite player in the NHL. Pitts fans seem to like the idea so far.

Thoughts?

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In the value of the 1st overall thread someone offered our first round, brodin and granlund for it. Anyone else think that is a pretty bad deal for us?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1150315&page=9

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That is a terrible idea. UGH!

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In the value of the 1st overall thread someone offered our first round, brodin and granlund for it. Anyone else think that is a pretty bad deal for us?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1150315&page=9
Definitely not worth it, I'm pretty high on Brodin, it'd take a lot for me to want to trade him.

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Why of course we'll trade our 1st rd pick, Clutter, and Harding for Phaneuf.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1169643

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In the value of the 1st overall thread someone offered our first round, brodin and granlund for it. Anyone else think that is a pretty bad deal for us?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1150315&page=9
Are you sure that's not an "OR" instead of "AND?" That might make sense, and would at least be within the realm of reason for the Wild.

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Are you sure that's not an "OR" instead of "AND?" That might make sense, and would at least be within the realm of reason for the Wild.
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7th(overall) pick
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1st(yakupov)
Doesn't look like "or" Although our 1st+Granlund and maybe something minor would be close to fair value.

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Are you sure that's not an "OR" instead of "AND?" That might make sense, and would at least be within the realm of reason for the Wild.
Positive that it is "AND"
He also stated later in the thread that it gives them a top pairing defensemen in brodin and a top line center in granlund.
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7th(overall) pick
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04-18-2012, 02:26 PM
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thats pretty much in keeping with the overall intelligence level of the average Eddy fan on HFB.

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I have an idea. If the Devils make the conference finals we can just let them keep their pick(Zid trade) and we get the rights to Parise!

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