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List of candidates for GM and Coach Part List of candidates for GM and Coach Part V

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Confirmed Candidates (Interviews, Calls etc)

Blair Mackasey: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hoc...r-mackasey.php

Marc Bergevin: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392199

Julien Brisebois: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392199

Claude Loiselle: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392199


Dropped Out:


Vincent Damphousse : http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=392199

Pat Brisson: http://blogues.radio-canada.ca/blogu...g-du-canadien/

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We need Zombie Steve Jobs

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Can he speak zombie french though?

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Can he speak zombie french though?
He'll learn it. Zombies are quick learners.

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Can he speak zombie french though?
Ah, zombie French, the most beautiful of the undead romantic languages (unlike Ghost Spanish or Vampire Italian). Although why don't we just look at Zombie Sam Pollock?

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Ah, zombie French, the most beautiful of the undead romantic languages (unlike Ghost Spanish or Vampire Italian)
Together, they are called "dead languages".

Wait... you already did that joke, and better than I.

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What's Geoff's email address?

I want to apply.

I'm the most bilingual person I know.

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The habs should simply crowdsource their decisions through a web system. Actually, it's a bad idea, but you have to admit it would be amazing.

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Only Bergevin


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Bergevin

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Ok, here’s an idea I just had.

Say you are the new GM, and you have total power, but you believe in the power of crowdsourcing, and you want to harvest this power somewhat, so you ask your IT team to deploy the following service:

It’s basically a web portal where people can vote on various, management-designed questions, as well as send comments on those same questions. There are a few rules though. First, you need an account and maybe a small token fee to get one, as the habs are going to track your votes, and making people pay give then a better inventive to take the exercise seriously and drive away those who don’t. Second, the users are never going to receive any feedback such as vote statistics, etc, as this is incompatible with crownsourced decision making (people can’t influence each other) as well as having other benefits.

Any question can be asked. (“Should player X play with player Y or player Z?” or “Should we try to sign a LD or a LW?”). Of course, the GM can fully disregard any vote and comment; this is just a tool to help him judge his own decisions.

Individual accounts themselves could end up being weighted over the time, without the user knowing it. Management could identify the 10% or so of voters who historically and empirically come up with good insights, and give more credence to their votes. Alternatively, morons could have their accounts revoked, or worst, systematically ignored by the system (without the user knowing).

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Ok, here’s an idea I just had.

Say you are the new GM, and you have total power, but you believe in the power of crowdsourcing, and you want to harvest this power somewhat, so you ask your IT team to deploy the following service:

It’s basically a web portal where people can vote on various, management-designed questions, as well as send comments on those same questions. There are a few rules though. First, you need an account and maybe a small token fee to get one, as the habs are going to track your votes, and making people pay give then a better inventive to take the exercise seriously and drive away those who don’t. Second, the users are never going to receive any feedback such as vote statistics, etc, as this is incompatible with crownsourced decision making (people can’t influence each other) as well as having other benefits.

Any question can be asked. (“Should player X play with player Y or player Z?” or “Should we try to sign a LD or a LW?”). Of course, the GM can fully disregard any vote and comment; this is just a tool to help him judge his own decisions.

Individual accounts themselves could end up being weighted over the time, without the user knowing it. Management could identify the 10% or so of voters who historically and empirically come up with good insights, and give more credence to their votes. Alternatively, morons could have their accounts revoked, or worst, systematically ignored by the system (without the user knowing).
This is an interesting idea. If Geoff decides to hire me as the next GM (I've tracked him down on LinkedIn, so I like my chances), I'm bringing you onto my team.

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My top 5:

1 - Bergevin - rising fast in his new career
2 - MacKasey - this one I did not know and now grows on me
3 - McGuire - intelligence and experience according to Scotty, would like Savard to hang around to consult him
4 - Brisebois - feel there is something there that is new and adapted but ready for GM ?
5 - Benning - would be no 1 but with Bruins, long shot that he is even interested

The following, I do not like:
Loiselle - From the Leafs, yarck !
Hextall - A bit green and not sure the Kings are a good reference !
Robitaille - big name but is he GM materia?, I doubt ...
Fenton - Nashville is a good team but not a winning team
Roy - could be good but he wants to be coach, not GM

One thing that has been discussed a bit but not enough is what was said by Roy about being involved in at GM level too. He did not go too much and actually, I think it might b hearsay. But the point that I get from it is the following: coaching must be involved so that mistakes like Spacek are avoided. What I mean by mistake is that many times, decisions were made that were not a good fit for the team. We got Spacek and he played on his wrong side most of the time so could not excel as had before with the Sabres. Same thing with Kaberle, we needed a shooter like we had before and got a passer. Latendresse and other young playesr not being played to their strengths, etc ...

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This is an interesting idea. If Geoff decides to hire me as the next GM (I've tracked him down on LinkedIn, so I like my chances), I'm bringing you onto my team.
Thank you for considering my idea, I'll root for your candidature.

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Kings fans think Hextall will do well, but not Luc, who is more a marketing guy with them.

Can't see this guy here though.

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my pick is still timmins but hextall does intrigue me. from i've heard previously (very little) and from when i've seen him (a bit), he does look lke the opposite of what you'd expect. calm, cool, polite, reserved et cetera... deserves an interview at least. he would certainly bring a certain attitude to this organization.

now lets get robinson back and lets get the old gang together!

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To me, with the language criteria, there's no question Bergevin is the best fit.
My money has been on him since the start.

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Ok, here’s an idea I just had.

Say you are the new GM, and you have total power, but you believe in the power of crowdsourcing, and you want to harvest this power somewhat, so you ask your IT team to deploy the following service:

It’s basically a web portal where people can vote on various, management-designed questions, as well as send comments on those same questions. There are a few rules though. First, you need an account and maybe a small token fee to get one, as the habs are going to track your votes, and making people pay give then a better inventive to take the exercise seriously and drive away those who don’t. Second, the users are never going to receive any feedback such as vote statistics, etc, as this is incompatible with crownsourced decision making (people can’t influence each other) as well as having other benefits.

Any question can be asked. (“Should player X play with player Y or player Z?” or “Should we try to sign a LD or a LW?”). Of course, the GM can fully disregard any vote and comment; this is just a tool to help him judge his own decisions.

Individual accounts themselves could end up being weighted over the time, without the user knowing it. Management could identify the 10% or so of voters who historically and empirically come up with good insights, and give more credence to their votes. Alternatively, morons could have their accounts revoked, or worst, systematically ignored by the system (without the user knowing).
There is a semi-professional soccer team in England being run that way, can't remember what level, but I think it's tier 3 something.
Everything is decided by the members of the club..

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There is a semi-professional soccer team in England being run that way, can't remember what level, but I think it's tier 3 something.
Everything is decided by the members of the club..
And they are neck high in financial difficulties I believe

I think they had bought the team from bankruptcy and installed that system. The club had a hard time getting new money because people would not renew their memberships.

I think it was called My Football FC or something...

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And they are neck high in financial difficulties I believe

I think they had bought the team from bankruptcy and installed that system. The club had a hard time getting new money because people would not renew their memberships.

I think it was called My Football FC or something...
Sounds like exactly the type of tool we need. We can call that Management by follies!....a brand new management style.

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I'll read about it in La Presse.

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Sounds like exactly the type of tool we need. We can call that Management by follies!....a brand new management style.
We've had our fair share of tools recently, thank you very much.

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Just hire the best GM available, if he's English, hire a French actor to play the role of the GM.

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We've had our fair share of tools recently, thank you very much.
Get away from that mirror.....

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Just hire the best GM available, if he's English, hire a French actor to play the role of the GM.
just like in Politics lmao, why not..

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