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the Jets sent an email to STH quoting playoff prices if they made it. These are obviously discounted off of the face value, but the P6 (upper deck corners and front of the ends) were $80 first round. Face value price would probably have been over $100 though. The STH price went up every round to $160 for finals (I think). Not too bad looking at those prices. I wonder if the Leafs sent out a similar email to their STH. I woudl have ot think prices woudl be similar or more than Vancouver.
the Jets sent an email to STH quoting playoff prices if they made it. These are obviously discounted off of the face value, but the P6 (upper deck corners and front of the ends) were $80 first round. Face value price would probably have been over $100 though. The STH price went up every round to $160 for finals (I think). Not too bad looking at those prices. I wonder if the Leafs sent out a similar email to their STH. I woudl have ot think prices woudl be similar or more than Vancouver.
Damn... wish I was born in a nontraditional hockey market.
I know what you're saying, and Im thankful for it every time I pay my sth invoice, but look at the prices in Detroit and Ottawa. I know economy is a factor in Detroit, but still. It's about as traditional as they come.
1.1 million people yet they can't support a CFL team and are below-average Canada wise for NHL support. Are people not in to sports there?
I believe they aren't a sports town. Gov't employees, probably more interested in the Ballet, museums, etc. If they didn't get the ticket support from Leaf and Habs fans when they visit, they would have been long gone.
Ottawa's fanbase is growing as the kids who grew up with the franchise reach ticket-buying age, and eventually STH age. The franchise will be in the nation's capital to stay, for sure. They don't sell out every night, but generally being a mainstay in top-10 attendance is nothing to sneeze at.
1.1 million people yet they can't support a CFL team and are below-average Canada wise for NHL support. Are people not in to sports there?
It really is quite disgusting how opposed this city is to national sports.
Rebuilding Frank Clair Stadium has been locked up in court for years, and will likely continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Reason? People in the area where the stadium is currently located would rather a public park instead!
Once I'm through with University I'm heading straight to a city with an actual sports fanbase.
I'm unsure of why the Yotes have higher low-end tickets but lower high priced tickets.
Also, no surprise to see the Wings still offering the same fair prices.
I am however surprised with Florida, $110 tickets? I guess I'm still surprised Phoenix is only charging $70.
What are regular season average prices for Florida?
Nashville is $56 for what? The boards? I went to Nashville about 7 years ago and paid $80 for behind the glass for a regular season game.
$56 dollars for upper bowl he said.
Also probably important to take into account Arena sizes. For example, the Sharks have a relatively small capacity (around 17 000?) compared to say Detroit or Ottawa (around 20 000).
Less supply, more demand, higher price.
Bruins Secondary market the past 2 seasons has tanked for round 1, in comparison to regular season games. There was a few in the regular season that it was pushing $175 to get in the door. The market was flooded with playoff tickets. I think there was something like 2,500 tickets posted at one point.
It really is quite disgusting how opposed this city is to national sports.
Rebuilding Frank Clair Stadium has been locked up in court for years, and will likely continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Reason? People in the area where the stadium is currently located would rather a public park instead!
Once I'm through with University I'm heading straight to a city with an actual sports fanbase.
Sens at playoff time isn't terrible though.
Good for them, public funds should not be used to build stadiums.
Also probably important to take into account Arena sizes. For example, the Sharks have a relatively small capacity (around 17 000?) compared to say Detroit or Ottawa (around 20 000).
Less supply, more demand, higher price.
17,562
(They've actually reconfigured a few things (closing off floor entrances, narrowing the remaining, moved broadcasters to ceiling) and have added a few hundred seats since opening in 1994.)
Take count the fact that Montreal and Toronto (the two nearest markets to Ottawa) would have double if not triple of the Senators prices.
yeah last time I went to see a habs season game in the desjardins club, my ticket price was 175.69$ today that would of be 204$. The only two teams that sell comparable playoffs tickets at a higher price are Vancouver and New York. So if the habs were in playoffs and I would of bought that same ticket that would probably be 450$ to 500$ more than five times the Ottawa rates.
1.1 million people yet they can't support a CFL team and are below-average Canada wise for NHL support. Are people not in to sports there?
Consider the franchise is only 20 years old, and a mere 2 hours away from Montreal and about 4 hours away from the start of the GTA.
So you stick a franchise right in the middle of an area with two teams with significant league history... and then basically need to wait on kids to grow up with the team.
Also, the big business in town is the government - they're not allowed to buy tickets. I'd argue the point that they're below average in terms of NHL support for Canadian teams - the team sells out on a regular basis.
If you're basing it on the fact that Montreal and Toronto games appear to be attended by visiting fans... well that's largely due to ticket availability ahead of time (Ottawa is largely a walkup sales town). That and any family does not want to attend a Toronto game because the visiting Toronto fans are equivalent to soccer hooligans. So STH will dump tickets for Toronto games to avoid a negative experience and pay for the rest of their packet.
The 'premium game' pricing model doesn't help either. Toronto coming to town doesn't add anything worth going to see.
That and any family does not want to attend a Toronto game because the visiting Toronto fans are equivalent to soccer hooligans. So STH will dump tickets for Toronto games to avoid a negative experience and pay for the rest of their packet.
Is this documented ??? Do the Ottawa police arrest large amounts of TML suppporters on gameday? Are there lots of Ottawa fans who get beat up on derby day from traveling away support? Does the local Ottawa hospital closest to the arena see an uptick in hockey related violence when the Sens play the Leafs?
Is this documented ??? Do the Ottawa police arrest large amounts of TML suppporters on gameday? Are there lots of Ottawa fans who get beat up on derby day from traveling away support? Does the local Ottawa hospital closest to the arena see an uptick in hockey related violence when the Sens play the Leafs?
There are usually a few hundred trips to the Emergency room every Sens-Leafs game... back before the lockout when they met in the playoffs several people died each series from the terrible violence.
Is this documented ??? Do the Ottawa police arrest large amounts of TML suppporters on gameday? Are there lots of Ottawa fans who get beat up on derby day from traveling away support? Does the local Ottawa hospital closest to the arena see an uptick in hockey related violence when the Sens play the Leafs?
While I don't imagine it's documented anywhere publicly, I've been told that the team hires twice as many police officers on a Leaf game compared to an average game.
And yes, my wife and I (she is a Leafs fan) have both agreed that we won't be going back to a Leafs-Sens game at SBP for the above mentioned reasons. She would rather just go to another Ottawa game.
I remember the story of a french-canadian pens fan who got beat up by habs fans in the semi-finals two years ago. I know that here and in Boston there's usually a few skirmishes between hot-headed fans. But I have heard of any deaths and I'm pretty sure that if there was any here on in Ontario it would of made the evening news big time not only locally but worldwide.
