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04-08-2012, 08:18 PM
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I remember drawing up a Canadian Elite League system complete with promotion and demotion down to 3rd division. The top level was a national league which would have 12 teams in major cities across the country. The bottom team would be demoted to division 2, regional play which would be divided into Pacific (BC/Alberta), West (Manitoba/Saskatchewan+Territories), Central (Ontario/Quebec) and Atlantic (NB, NS, PEI, NL). These would be roughly 10-15 team circuits of cities where the bottom 2 clubs would be demoted to Division 3, provincial play consisting of all other centres able to field teams in the province. The champions to Division 3 provincial leagues would either move straight up or compete in a tournament to earn promotion to Division 2. Pacific would earn straight promotion, Atlantic would probably require a 3 team tournament for example. Champions of Division 2 regional leagues would compete in a tournament amongst other regional champions for the right to earn the 1 promotion berth available to the Canadian Elite Level.

It was a hybrid of European promotion systems and the Allan Cup. The high end would be less than NHL but higher than AHL calibre and the 3rd Division would be closer to AAA Senior, local guys who played minor pro/major junior/college hockey and former pros at the end of their careers.

Year 1
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-St. John's
-Halifax
-Quebec City
-Hamilton
-Thunder Bay
-Windsor
-Saskatoon
-Regina
-Lethbridge
-Red Deer
-Chilliwack
-Victoria

And after that it just gets too big to post

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Trevor3, that sounds like an interesting idea. How about putting it into a google document so we could see the rest?

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Im not sure what I would call if but these cities would be where I would Have teams.

Eastern Conference
North Division
Elmira (NY)
Danbury (CT)
Glens Falls (NY)
Binghamton (NY)
New Haven (CT)

Centeral Division
Johnstown (PA)
Dayton (OH)
Toldeo (OH)
Kalmazoo (MI)
Muskegon (MI)

South Division
Ashville (NC)
Orlando (FL)
Duluth (GA)
Charleston (SC)
Estero (FL)

Western Conference
Division
Molone (IL)
Fort Wayne (IN)
Independence (MO)
Knoxville (TN)
Bloomington (IL)

Division
Rapid City (SD)
Loveland (CO)
Wichita (KS)
West Valley City (UT)
Boise (ID)

Division
San Antonio (TX)
Beaumont (TX)
Biloxi (MS)
Laredo (TX)
Tulsa (OK)

I guess I would bring back the UHL name, UHL rules and NEVER EVER NEVER EVER would let Reading in
A little bitter??? I would rather just ban Tofu and Ding Dong Labelle! Danbury fans were worse, LOL

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I guess I would bring back the UHL name, UHL rules and NEVER EVER NEVER EVER would let Reading in
Did someone from Reading take your lunch money as a kid?

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Im not sure what I would call if but these cities would be where I would Have teams.

Eastern Conference
North Division
Elmira (NY)
Danbury (CT)
Glens Falls (NY)
Binghamton (NY)
New Haven (CT)

Centeral Division
Johnstown (PA)
Dayton (OH)
Toldeo (OH)
Kalmazoo (MI)
Muskegon (MI)

South Division
Ashville (NC)
Orlando (FL)
Duluth (GA)
Charleston (SC)
Estero (FL)

Western Conference
Division
Molone (IL)
Fort Wayne (IN)
Independence (MO)
Knoxville (TN)
Bloomington (IL)

Division
Rapid City (SD)
Loveland (CO)
Wichita (KS)
West Valley City (UT)
Boise (ID)

Division
San Antonio (TX)
Beaumont (TX)
Biloxi (MS)
Laredo (TX)
Tulsa (OK)

I guess I would bring back the UHL name, UHL rules and NEVER EVER NEVER EVER would let Reading in
Knoxville would be an odd fit in a western conference considering it is in eastern Tennessee.

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04-11-2012, 07:39 PM
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ive made 5 to 6 "fantasy" hockey leagues all from A to AA to AAA I still run 4 of them! its kind of my favorite things to do! i wont go into team details but ive made a league called the APHL(single A) SHL(Rival to the SPHL)like the 90s league,SEHL(AA)and a IHL REDUX(AAA of course!!) just reply what league you wanna hear the teams ive made!

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ive made 5 to 6 "fantasy" hockey leagues all from a to aa to aaa i still run 4 of them! Its kind of my favorite things to do! I wont go into team details but ive made a league called the aphl(single a) shl(rival to the sphl)like the 90s league,sehl(aa)and a ihl redux(aaa of course!!) just reply what league you wanna hear the teams ive made!


ihl 3.0

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ihl 3.0
ive got the eastern and the west ive made some of my own franchises and re-made some IHL 1.0 teams and i added some poached ECHL and AHL markets because theres been talk of moving the ECHL west,that and my other league poached the rest of the eastern ECHL teams.none the less heres my league set up:
EASTERN CONFERENCE
SOUTH DIVISION:
MIAMI MATADORS (ECHL remake and the PANTHERS affiliate)
ORLANDO SOLAR BEARS (LIGHTNING affiliate)
ATLANTA KNIGHTS (WINNEPEG,LAST YEAR THEY SHARED ICE WITH THE THRASHERS)
HOUSTON AEROES (AHL market WILD affiliate)
NORTH DIVISION:
CINCINATTI CYCLONES (ECHL)
BALTIMORE BANDITS (AHL remake CAPILTALS affiliate)
INDIANAPOLIS ICE (BLUE JACKETS AFFILIATE)
CENTRAL DIVISION:
KANSAS CITY BLADES
CHICAGO WOLVES (AHL)
MINNESOTA SHOCK (MADE UP TEAM IN TARGET CENTER WILD SECON AAA AFFILIATE)
MILWALKEE ADMIRALS (AAA)
G.R. GRIFFINS (AHL)
WESTERN CONFERENCE
WEST DIVISION:
IDAHO FALLS STALLIONS (MADE UP)
IDAHO STEELHEADS(ECHL)
COLORADO EAGLES (ECHL)
PHEONIX ROADRUNNERDS
PACIFIC DIVISION:
LONG BEACH ICE DOGS
ONTARIO REIGN(ECHL)
SAN DIEGO GULLS
FRESNO FALCONS
LAS VEGAS WRANLERS (ECHL,MERGED WITH THE LV THUNDER LAST OFF SEASON WHEN ECHL SPLIT UP)
ALASKA ACES(ECHL)
FAIRBANKS FIRE(MADE UP)
STOCKTON THUNDER (ECHL)
SACRAMENTOE STORM (MADE UP)
Let me know what you think ive recently been thinking about giving back the ex IHL now AHL teams to the AHL and making some more made up teams but i dont think theres any markets lefty open for me.and i might fold some teams.not sure yet.

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04-13-2012, 09:42 AM
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ive got the eastern and the west ive made some of my own franchises and re-made some IHL 1.0 teams and i added some poached ECHL and AHL markets because theres been talk of moving the ECHL west,that and my other league poached the rest of the eastern ECHL teams.none the less heres my league set up:
EASTERN CONFERENCE
SOUTH DIVISION:
MIAMI MATADORS (ECHL remake and the PANTHERS affiliate)
ORLANDO SOLAR BEARS (LIGHTNING affiliate)
ATLANTA KNIGHTS (WINNEPEG,LAST YEAR THEY SHARED ICE WITH THE THRASHERS)
HOUSTON AEROES (AHL market WILD affiliate)
NORTH DIVISION:
CINCINATTI CYCLONES (ECHL)
BALTIMORE BANDITS (AHL remake CAPILTALS affiliate)
INDIANAPOLIS ICE (BLUE JACKETS AFFILIATE)
CENTRAL DIVISION:
KANSAS CITY BLADES
CHICAGO WOLVES (AHL)
MINNESOTA SHOCK (MADE UP TEAM IN TARGET CENTER WILD SECON AAA AFFILIATE)
MILWALKEE ADMIRALS (AAA)
G.R. GRIFFINS (AHL)
WESTERN CONFERENCE
WEST DIVISION:
IDAHO FALLS STALLIONS (MADE UP)
IDAHO STEELHEADS(ECHL)
COLORADO EAGLES (ECHL)
PHEONIX ROADRUNNERDS
PACIFIC DIVISION:
LONG BEACH ICE DOGS
ONTARIO REIGN(ECHL)
SAN DIEGO GULLS
FRESNO FALCONS
LAS VEGAS WRANLERS (ECHL,MERGED WITH THE LV THUNDER LAST OFF SEASON WHEN ECHL SPLIT UP)
ALASKA ACES(ECHL)
FAIRBANKS FIRE(MADE UP)
STOCKTON THUNDER (ECHL)
SACRAMENTOE STORM (MADE UP)
Let me know what you think ive recently been thinking about giving back the ex IHL now AHL teams to the AHL and making some more made up teams but i dont think theres any markets lefty open for me.and i might fold some teams.not sure yet.
To be honest...I miss the IHL, too bad it went under because they had great cities for the franchises. (I wouldn't have even minded if they had gotten a New York Team).

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Hmm... I was tinkering with another idea of rehashing some failed WPHL and ECHL markets down south. These are the teams I have.

West Division

Arkansas (Little Rock)
Baton Rouge
Jackson
Monroe
Shreveport
Texas (Beaumont)

East Division

Birmingham
Chattanooga
Macon
Mobile
Savannah
Tallahassee

Again, here's a map. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...8098,43.286133

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Hmm... I was tinkering with another idea of rehashing some failed WPHL and ECHL markets down south. These are the teams I have.

West Division

Arkansas (Little Rock)
Baton Rouge
Jackson
Monroe
Shreveport
Texas (Beaumont)

East Division

Birmingham
Chattanooga
Macon
Mobile
Savannah
Tallahassee

Again, here's a map. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...8098,43.286133
All those cities are franchises in 2 of my other leagues ive made!

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Iceflyers rule, What does your AA league look like? I ran a league back in the 90's with a league simulator computer program I miss it. I had teams in my league from AAA, AA and Junior and even 1 NHL market. I'd like some help getting a league going again. Iceflyers, PM me I'd like to know how you go about setting up your leagues.

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Iceflyers rule, What does your AA league look like? I ran a league back in the 90's with a league simulator computer program I miss it. I had teams in my league from AAA, AA and Junior and even 1 NHL market. I'd like some help getting a league going again. Iceflyers, PM me I'd like to know how you go about setting up your leagues.
i start by doing research on the market sizes and arenas sizes and conditions...ive even went as far as to draw up some fake leases for fun!

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Who is in your AA league?

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[QUOTE=Rivermenfan91;48189137]Who is in your AA league?
not doing divisions but i do have 4 of them! just doin confernces and city names

Southern conference:
florida
gwinnett
gainesville (Gulf coast)
mobile
birmingham
jackson
new orleanes
baton rouge
montgomery
jacksonville
tallahassee
savanah
macon
southcarolina
greenville
columbia
north little rock
chatanooga
florence (pee dee)
Northern conference:
trenton
reading
wheeling
toledo
chicago (folded)
huntington
roanoke
richmond
greensboro
atlantic city
quebec city
st . john
fredricton
cornwall (moving to APHL)
troy ny (moving to APHL)
kalamazoo
lowell
elmira
halifax
utica
johnstown

might be some i missed but thats basically all of them
all of them affiliated with at least one team except about 3 teams
some are current ECHL franchises some ive made my self and some are "revivals"
last year there was an eastern and a western conference but i moved all the west coast teams into the IHL1

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To be honest...I miss the IHL, too bad it went under because they had great cities for the franchises. (I wouldn't have even minded if they had gotten a New York Team).
oops i forgot the detroit vipers are in the IHL to i forgot to post them to.

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oops i forgot the detroit vipers are in the IHL to i forgot to post them to.
And the IHL had some revenue on TV...On "Home Improvement", one of the Taylor sons would be wearing a Detroit Vipers Shirt and on "The Drew Carey Show", Drew's friends would be wearing a Cleveland Lumberjacks Shirt.

But alas...The IHL wound-up being the next WHA.

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And the IHL had some revenue on TV...On "Home Improvement", one of the Taylor sons would be wearing a Detroit Vipers Shirt and on "The Drew Carey Show", Drew's friends would be wearing a Cleveland Lumberjacks Shirt.

But alas...The IHL wound-up being the next WHA.
ive seen that before the last time i saw that was on american pickers on the history channel a guy had a jacks shirt on.

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ive got the eastern and the west ive made some of my own franchises and re-made some IHL 1.0 teams and i added some poached ECHL and AHL markets because theres been talk of moving the ECHL west,that and my other league poached the rest of the eastern ECHL teams.none the less heres my league set up:
EASTERN CONFERENCE
SOUTH DIVISION:
MIAMI MATADORS (ECHL remake and the PANTHERS affiliate)
ORLANDO SOLAR BEARS (LIGHTNING affiliate)
ATLANTA KNIGHTS (WINNEPEG,LAST YEAR THEY SHARED ICE WITH THE THRASHERS)
HOUSTON AEROES (AHL market WILD affiliate)
NORTH DIVISION:
CINCINATTI CYCLONES (ECHL)
BALTIMORE BANDITS (AHL remake CAPILTALS affiliate)
INDIANAPOLIS ICE (BLUE JACKETS AFFILIATE)
CENTRAL DIVISION:
KANSAS CITY BLADES
CHICAGO WOLVES (AHL)
MINNESOTA SHOCK (MADE UP TEAM IN TARGET CENTER WILD SECON AAA AFFILIATE)
MILWALKEE ADMIRALS (AAA)
G.R. GRIFFINS (AHL)
WESTERN CONFERENCE
WEST DIVISION:
IDAHO FALLS STALLIONS (MADE UP)
IDAHO STEELHEADS(ECHL)
COLORADO EAGLES (ECHL)
PHEONIX ROADRUNNERDS
PACIFIC DIVISION:
LONG BEACH ICE DOGS
ONTARIO REIGN(ECHL)
SAN DIEGO GULLS
FRESNO FALCONS
LAS VEGAS WRANLERS (ECHL,MERGED WITH THE LV THUNDER LAST OFF SEASON WHEN ECHL SPLIT UP)
ALASKA ACES(ECHL)
FAIRBANKS FIRE(MADE UP)
STOCKTON THUNDER (ECHL)
SACRAMENTOE STORM (MADE UP)
Let me know what you think ive recently been thinking about giving back the ex IHL now AHL teams to the AHL and making some more made up teams but i dont think theres any markets lefty open for me.and i might fold some teams.not sure yet.
I don't think any Atlanta based team would affiliate with Winnipeg. Also might as well have Gwinnett in your AAA league because there's probably a better shot at Gwinnett being upgraded to AAA than the city of Atlanta getting a AAA hockey club.

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I don't think any Atlanta based team would affiliate with Winnipeg. Also might as well have Gwinnett in your AAA league because there's probably a better shot at Gwinnett being upgraded to AAA than the city of Atlanta getting a AAA hockey club.
i know this gwinnett is in my aa league. and last year my atlanta team was affiliated with the thrashers. call it what you want but its just the way i did things plus gwinnetts higher affiliate would of course be the atlanta ihl team

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IceFlyersRule, I have to look at your AA league and ask if the research was really done. A lot of those markets won't work at all. Not because they were burned before but because of other factors.

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IceFlyersRule, I have to look at your AA league and ask if the research was really done. A lot of those markets won't work at all. Not because they were burned before but because of other factors.
which cities?

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Gainesville - No where near the Gulf Coast, not sure arena has ice capabilities, and hockey would be third in line when selecting weekend dates
Mobile - last time someone tried to bring hockey there they asked for $10k a game in rent to scare them off
Birmingham - arena is either too big (BJCCC) or too small (Pelham) for AA hockey
New Orleans - where would they play? No arena in town that's in good enough shape or isn't too big for AA hockey. They could try New Orleans Arena again but it would be a cavern.
Montgomery - where would they play?
Tallahassee - Third in line for weekend dates again.
Savannah - the Savannah Hockey Classic only sells out because of the fans that travel from out of town to watch the schools that compete; not many locals attend.

Just to name a few.

Also, if you've gone to Ice Flyers games this season, you wouldn't know me but you've seen me most likely.

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Launching a rival to the USHL; cleverly called the USHA.

Phase I:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=ll

(Teams in blue belong to the Western Conference, teams in purple the Eastern Conference)
Phase II Prospective markets:
Shreveport, LA
Austin, TX
Lafayette, LA

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