Ah, I'm sorry, I misread that first statline. Well, then I'll just with not being a stat guy for these so-called goaltending statistic. I'd have to assume that the starter is in for the tougher matchups on back-to-backs, for example. We'll see what happens here.
Schneider has played against:
DET
CHI x 2
BOS
NSH
MIN (when they were on top of the standings)
DAL x 2 (when they were fighting for the Pacific/playoff spot)
STL
PHX x 2
San Jose
WPG (fighting for 8th)
He hasn't been given easier matchups.
I hope fans of other teams are starting to realize putting in Schneider isn't just a case of Luongo playing badly it may just be a case of putting in the better goaltender.
I hope fans of other teams are starting to realize putting in Schneider isn't just a case of Luongo playing badly it may just be a case of putting in the better goaltender.
I don't think that is true, at all. It's not all in the numbers. If your coaching staff agreed, there would be no excuse for starting Luongo in the first two games.
Luongo has done absolutely nothing to deserve being pulled. Putting Schneider in net doesn't come close to addressing the problems the Canucks have shown in this series.
Switching goalies could serve as a wakeup call similar to pulling a goalie during the game. Luongo's played pretty well, but sometimes goalies get pulled when they're not really the problem.
If you decide to shake up the team to get a response... and put in Cory... you are replacing a hot goalie with a guy who can be hot or cold or anywhere in between.
if hes cold Van is down 3-0 and forced to go back to luongo....thats a possibilty
if hes hot and team plays A game they win ..hard to go back to luongo,even thoguh he might be playing better than Cory
Keep playing luongo.... and have their team play their A game..... go back to van tied up 2-2
IMO if Van played game 1 like they did gm 2 with the goaltending Luongo gave....series tied 1-1
again kudos to LA who have brought their A game both nights......although they had to rely on two shorties to get a victory on friday.
what message does that send? if you play well you won't get to play the next game?
Luongo was not especially good in Game 2. A few good saves and couple of weak goals. It easily warrants a switch especially considering the other potential benefits
At this point, we don't just need a goalie that can keep you in the game anymore. Now that we're in life support, we need someone who can steal the next 2 for us. Delaying until we're in a do-or-die situation, means you're asking Schneider to steal you 4 games in a row; which is far less likely than asking him to just buy you 1 or 2.
because obviously, you can't bank on the roster getting past 2 or more around Quick.
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If Luongo is benched, I'd expect him to want out of Vancouver
Then that's just pompous and continues to serve his me > team first image. If that is truly his character, then he doesn't belong here.
again kudos to LA who have brought their A game both nights......although they had to rely on two shorties to get a victory on friday.
I don't think LA brought their A game last night. Vancouver maintained puck possession for the most part, although their shots may not have been quality chances. LA D has been great, and of course special teams. 5 of 5 has been meh, and we've made our fair share of mistakes.
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if hes cold Van is down 3-0 and forced to go back to luongo....thats a possibilty
This. Although not as good in the 2nd as he was in the 1st, Lou was still the best Canucks player on the ice. I think if somehow Vancouver loses game 3, then put out Schneider, because it's desperation mode. Right now, I expect Vancouver to come out even harder than the first two games, and barring more defensive mistakes, especially on special teams, they will make it very difficult for the Kings.
At this point, we don't just need a goalie that can keep you in the game anymore. Now that we're in life support, we need someone who can steal the next 2 for us. Delaying until we're in a do-or-die situation, means you're asking Schneider to steal you 4 games in a row; which is far less likely than asking him to just buy you 1 or 2.
because obviously, you can't bank on the roster getting past 2 or more around Quick.
Then that's just pompous and continues to serve his me > team first image. If that is truly his character, then he doesn't belong here.
Luongo did everything possible to steal game one for you. Game two he gave up one not so great goal (Lewis), but unless Vancouver defenders start clearing the crease and stop making telegraphed drop passes, and the PP pulls it's head out of it's ***, I don't care who's in net, your probably losing this series.
Then that's just pompous and continues to serve his me > team first image. If that is truly his character, then he doesn't belong here.
As a goalie, things are a little more black/white than for a skater, who's time on ice gets cut down a bit. He did all he could to help his team all year and in the last two games, and he cannot help the team sitting on the bench. If they don't want him to help his team, that's their fair call, but especially on his contract, he isn't helping them being the backup. I wouldn't be able to see it as a very selfish move.
I'd actually think the other way around. Go with Lou for game 3 and give the team another chance to redeem itself, maybe with a bit less pressure playing on the road. If that fails, go for the move with Schneider from there and pray. If you go to Schneider for game 3 and it fails, I am not sure how good Lou will feel after being taken out for the game before and facing elimination. But who knows. Either way might be the winning lottery ticket, but even more likely, either way could not make a difference, as it would have in the first two games.
If you decide to shake up the team to get a response... and put in Cory... you are replacing a hot goalie with a guy who can be hot or cold or anywhere in between.
Sorry bro, but .847 save percentage is not a hot goalie.
Luongo did everything possible to steal game one for you. Game two he gave up one not so great goal (Lewis), but unless Vancouver defenders start clearing the crease and stop making telegraphed drop passes, and the PP pulls it's head out of it's ***, I don't care who's in net, your probably losing this series.
Well I'm not going as far to say he sucks. In fact he played pretty well for the most part. The problem I have with last night's game is D. Brown's second shortie. That was the back breaker.
I don't care that Hamhuis gave up the breakaway and just coasted into the backcheck, but for an elite goalie in pressure cooker situation, he absolutely shouldn't be getting dangled that bad.
The thing is, it's a lot to ask for but at the rate Quick and his defense is playing, our goaltending has to be near to perfection for us to come out alive in this series. It doesn't matter which goalie that "near perfection" is coming from, but despite playing great, Luongo hasn't brought out his A game.
Wait a minute... are you an LA fan? why are you adamant about us keeping Luongo in?
Well I'm not going as far to say he sucks. In fact he played pretty well for the most part. The problem I have with last night's game is D. Brown's second shortie. That was the back breaker.
I don't care that Hamhuis gave up the breakaway and just coasted into the backcheck, but for an elite goalie in pressure cooker situation, he absolutely shouldn't be getting dangled that bad.
The thing is, it's a lot to ask for but at the rate Quick and his defense is playing, our goaltending has to be near to perfection for us to come out alive in this series. It doesn't matter which goalie that "near perfection" is coming from, but despite playing great, Luongo hasn't been bring out his A game.
Wait a minute... are you an LA fan? why are you adamant about us keeping Luongo in?
I have no ulterior motive, I just have no idea why so many Canuck fans are so eager to replace their best player from the first two games of the series.
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I have no ulterior motive, I just have no idea why so many Canuck fans are so eager to replace their best player from the first two games of the series
Because unlike other clubs, we have the benefit of having a great goaltending tandem.
At the moment, we're not asking him to replace Luongo for the entire Play Off run. We're just asking if he could bail us out of this hole; and if not, well what can you do. We just played both aces up our sleeves.
Because unlike other clubs, we have the benefit of having a great goaltending tandem.
At the moment, we're not asking him to replace Luongo for the entire Play Off run. We're just asking if he could bail us out of this hole; and if not, well what can you do. We just played both aces up our sleeves.
How do you think Lou will like being replaced when he's played very well? You replace a long time veteran goaltender like that and there may be issues in the lockerroom
