Proposal: Luongo to Tampa

[PoundCake]

Luongo is a great Goalie with a bad contract. The only way Yzerman will accept that contract is if he can get him for a bag of pucks. Otherwise he'll just sign a lesser goalie for a much nicer contract.

I could see Luongo come to Tampa though IF he or Vancouver decide his time with the Canucks is up and IF he will only accept a trade to a florida team. IF those two things happen then Yzerman might offer something like Detroits 2012 1st and a prospect or two.

Luongo for Lecavalier (or any other top 6 forward) is an easy no from Tampa.

[Numbers]

This thread goes to show how little many users on these boards know/understand about contracts.

If Luongo is on the trade block there will be 5+ teams interested guaranteed. Yes Luongo's contract is long, in fact it goes until 2022. But this does not make it a bad contract for teams. Why??

1. Well its a 5.3 mil cap hit, that equates to 8th highest in NHL for goaltenders. For a goalie of Luongo's skill and consistency it is quite reasonable.

2. Yes it has a NTC, but there are multiple out clauses. This helps minimize risk on contract. At the 5th year team can opt out.

3. It is not a 35+ contract. This means if Luongo retires during contract team does not have cap hit on the books.

4. Luongo can be dumped in minors if need be, the contract does not include a NMC.

5. 16.714 mil has already been paid by Canucks. Biggest 2 year chunk has already been accounted for.

Most people do not understand the contract and therefore believe it is bad. There are many scenarios helping the team owning his rights to get him off their cap. Luongo will be good for at least 4-5 years and when looking at his stats over the last 10 years there is clear precedent to suggest this.

Yzerman built team Canada for the Olympics. And guess what who ended up winning gold for us?? Luongo took Brodeur's job, and obviously Yzerman noticed this. If Tampa had a shot to get Luongo I'm sure they would try hard. Its hard to estimate exact value right now, but it would be starting with a 1st + a good prospect.

I can see it going down like:

TB 1st + Gudas or Aulie

Alternatively

TB (Det 1st) + Connolly + 2nd

[Luck 6]

Originally Posted by Numbers

This thread goes to show how little many users on these boards know/understand about contracts.

If Luongo is on the trade block there will be 5+ teams interested guaranteed. Yes Luongo's contract is long, in fact it goes until 2022. But this does not make it a bad contract for teams. Why??

1. Well its a 5.3 mil cap hit, that equates to 8th highest in NHL for goaltenders. For a goalie of Luongo's skill and consistency it is quite reasonable.

2. Yes it has a NTC, but there are multiple out clauses. This helps minimize risk on contract. At the 5th year team can opt out.

3. It is not a 35+ contract. This means if Luongo retires during contract team does not have cap hit on the books.

4. Luongo can be dumped in minors if need be, the contract does not include a NMC.

5. 16.714 mil has already been paid by Canucks. Biggest 2 year chunk has already been accounted for.

Most people do not understand the contract and therefore believe it is bad. There are many scenarios helping the team owning his rights to get him off their cap. Luongo will be good for at least 4-5 years and when looking at his stats over the last 10 years there is clear precedent to suggest this.

Yzerman built team Canada for the Olympics. And guess what who ended up winning gold for us?? Luongo took Brodeur's job, and obviously Yzerman noticed this. If Tampa had a shot to get Luongo I'm sure they would try hard. Its hard to estimate exact value right now, but it would be starting with a 1st + a good prospect.

I can see it going down like:

TB 1st + Gudas or Aulie

Alternatively

TB (Det 1st) + Connolly + 2nd

Id like to add to point number 4. Since Luongo's salary is much lower in the final years of his deal, waiving him and eating that low salary number in the minors is a real possibility. Because of this, it's almost like Luongo is only under contract until age 38; an age that almost all great goalies have remained competitive at.

Also, as the salary cap increases year to year Luongos contract looks better and better. Salaries will increase each year while Luongos will not, 5.3mil for an elite goalie will likely be a steal 5 years down the road.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Hi-wayman and Numbers have a perfect insight of what Luongo's actual value would be, not the fallacy HF has concocted. The only reason Lu may be dealt is because we so happened to develop another potential elite goaltender. He has been fantastic despite what people think and I sincerely doubt he would refuse to go to any other team but Tampa. Both he and Schneider understand the situation and are not the type to screw over the organization.

Awesome post guys. It's nice to read after the plethora of garbage we get telling us how Lu's value sucks.

[HoseEmDown]

Originally Posted by Numbers

This thread goes to show how little many users on these boards know/understand about contracts.

If Luongo is on the trade block there will be 5+ teams interested guaranteed. Yes Luongo's contract is long, in fact it goes until 2022. But this does not make it a bad contract for teams. Why??

1. Well its a 5.3 mil cap hit, that equates to 8th highest in NHL for goaltenders. For a goalie of Luongo's skill and consistency it is quite reasonable.

2. Yes it has a NTC, but there are multiple out clauses. This helps minimize risk on contract. At the 5th year team can opt out.

3. It is not a 35+ contract. This means if Luongo retires during contract team does not have cap hit on the books.

4. Luongo can be dumped in minors if need be, the contract does not include a NMC.

5. 16.714 mil has already been paid by Canucks. Biggest 2 year chunk has already been accounted for.

Most people do not understand the contract and therefore believe it is bad. There are many scenarios helping the team owning his rights to get him off their cap. Luongo will be good for at least 4-5 years and when looking at his stats over the last 10 years there is clear precedent to suggest this.

Yzerman built team Canada for the Olympics. And guess what who ended up winning gold for us?? Luongo took Brodeur's job, and obviously Yzerman noticed this. If Tampa had a shot to get Luongo I'm sure they would try hard. Its hard to estimate exact value right now, but it would be starting with a 1st + a good prospect.

I can see it going down like:

TB 1st + Gudas or Aulie

Alternatively

TB (Det 1st) + Connolly + 2nd

Those proposals are awful, your not getting a top 10 pick plus a decent prospect, or a top 25 pick, former top 10 plus a 2nd. Your reasoning isn't valid, he still has a 5.3mil cap hit, we can cut him after 5 years which doesn't make it any better, you said we can put him in the minors which is exactly what we want to do. Good luck finding 5 teams he's willing to waive his NTC for, we will just wait till next seasons trade deadline and get him or Schneider much cheaper.

[LotteryForLife]

Its not a good fit. If the Canucks trade Luongo, it won't be for picks, and a rookie who is promising but not there yet. They are a win now team and probably trade for immediate help

[kongt]

Malone + Tampa first for Luongo.

If Canucks want instant help, flip that first with other assets for someone.

One can only dream.

[Vasilevski]

not happening