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04-14-2012, 03:22 PM
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I am surprised that they haven't tried Kassian in front of the net on the PP. It's not like the PP would get worse.
He was tried in practise and did not look comfortable at all.

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If we lose 1st round, we'll be pick 22 i believe, so we would have a shot at Slater Koekkoek. If we make it out of 1st round, i hope we get a David Backes/Jordan Staal type player like Stefan Matteau or Collton Sissons.

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If we lose 1st round, we'll be pick 22 i believe, so we would have a shot at Slater Koekkoek. If we make it out of 1st round, i hope we get a David Backes/Jordan Staal type player like Stefan Matteau or Collton Sissons.
Nope, we're guaranteed to pick 26th at worst (well... at best, if you consider going out in the first two rounds good...).


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If we lose 1st round, we'll be pick 22 i believe, so we would have a shot at Slater Koekkoek. If we make it out of 1st round, i hope we get a David Backes/Jordan Staal type player like Stefan Matteau or Collton Sissons.
It's the first two rounds together decide the order thru 26, and since we won the PT we are 26th no matter what.

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Nope, we're guaranteed to pick 26th at worst (well... at best, if you consider going out in the first two rounds good...).

This post blew my mind.

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I don't know... Couturier looks pretty damn good shutting down Malkin. These high picks are remarkably far along in their development these days.

A guy like Filip Forsberg or Mikhail Grigorenko could be just what this team needs.
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I agree, but the way AV plays rookies I don't see it unless we get a new coach who lets the rookies play big roles.

SC winners need ELC player(s) out earning their contracts. That's just a fact.
Pretty much these two things. I was dumbfounded watching Couturier fall last year. Some teams missed on that one. Anyway, it's impressive the way Couturier has stepped in as a kid in that sort of role, and you see it all the time with 'rebuilding teams'. But that's not going to happen with this team. And i wouldn't even pin it entirely on AV (although he's certainly a big reason for this). There's an organizational element to it that goes deeper than that, imo. Gillis seems intent on bringing prospects along at a particular pace...though it's hard to say how he'd handle a top 5 sort of pick.

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I take Grigorenko 15 times out of 10 over Forsberg. I'm actually not high on Forsberg at all, and think that Sebastian Collberg will be the best Swede in the draft.
I feel absolutely the complete opposite on that one. Grigorenko is not what this team needs, but Forsberg...*drool*. I can see what people like about Grigorenko, but those compete level concerns are a huge red flag to me, and i really think that his skill level has been somewhat overstated.

Forsberg just oozes potential. With a bit more refinement in his game, i think he could be pretty special.

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04-14-2012, 10:39 PM
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This year looks like a weak draft to me.

if we are going to trade to get a top pick in the first round, I hope its not this year.

there a lot of so-called first round picks this year that looked like last year's 2nd or 3rd rounders.

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04-15-2012, 09:52 AM
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Been catching up on the draft a little and got to watch some tape from Sarnia's playoffs. I would really like to see us get Galchenyuk, even over Grigorenko or Yakupov, I think.

Alex just seems like the type of player that this organization could use, shifty, amazing stickhandling, good in the corners, good on the cycle, and good 2-way game. He can develop into a slightly smaller Marian Hossa-clone quite easily and IMO that's the type of player this team is lacking in its Top 6. A guy that can be a gamebreaker in any situation, whether its off the rush, or on the cycle, or on the defensive end, or perhaps just sniping it past the goalie out of nowhere.


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Been catching up on the draft a little and go to watch some tape from Sarnia's playoffs. I would really like to see us get Galchenyuk, even over Grigorenko or Yakupov, I think.

Alex just seems like the type of player that this organization could use, shifty, amazing stickhandling, good in the corners, good on the cycle, and good 2-way game. He can develop into a slightly smaller Marian Hossa-clone quite easily and IMO that's the type of player this team is lacking in its Top 6. A guy that can be a gamebreaker in any situation, whether its off the rush, or on the cycle, or on the defensive end, or perhaps just sniping it past the goalie out of nowhere.
I guess we need to trade Luongo to Toronto then hahaha

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What do you view as the Canucks most pressing needs?

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What do you view as the Canucks most pressing needs?
Solid two-way D man, Big two way forward (C/W), Power Forward....don't really think we need a goalie in this draft. I think we need a character player to compliment our prospects a la Dalton Thrower

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04-15-2012, 05:06 PM
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I think what we need is an explosive, skilled forward. Big or small, doesn't matter. I don't see us needing a PWF (have Booth and Kassian) and drafting D for need does't make sense because they take so long to develop.

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04-15-2012, 05:20 PM
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After looking through our prospects, it looks like we could use C and LW.

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04-15-2012, 05:26 PM
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We need scoring forwards. Whether pwf or snipers doesn't matter, we just needs young guys who can put up points and take over once Sedins decline. I think it's clear Kesler can't really take on that role.

I'm really hoping the Luongo/Schneider trade brings back some young scoring talent.

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I see a lot of people saying "need" in here.

Take the best player available regardless of position. Trade later for need.

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I see a lot of people saying "need" in here.

Take the best player available regardless of position. Trade later for need.
At 26-30th pick the term BPA becomes quite muddled.

I've seen mocks with Vancouver picking Brady Skjei (who I've seen ranked as low as 55-60), and mocks drafting Hampus Lindholm who I've seen ranked as high as 14.

I'm not saying draft for need over BPA, just that BPA isn't exactly the most concrete philosophy.


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04-15-2012, 06:32 PM
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What do you view as the Canucks most pressing needs?
Taking the best player available.

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We need scoring forwards. Whether pwf or snipers doesn't matter, we just needs young guys who can put up points and take over once Sedins decline. I think it's clear Kesler can't really take on that role.

I'm really hoping the Luongo/Schneider trade brings back some young scoring talent.
It's definitely clear that Kesler can't. Way too inconsistent. Doesn't really have the play making ability to make the players around him much better either.

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I heard a rumour that if the president's trophy winner gets swept in the first round, they automatically get the first overall pick. Is that true?



please be true

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04-16-2012, 10:13 AM
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I heard a rumour that if the president's trophy winner gets swept in the first round, they automatically get the first overall pick. Is that true?



please be true
As an Oilers fan coming in peace...........













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04-16-2012, 02:24 PM
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Recently we talked that we need a d-man(regular season) ....
Today is a story that we need powerforward or sniper ....
What we need tomorrow? maybe goalies???

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At 26-30th pick the term BPA becomes quite muddled.

I've seen mocks with Vancouver picking Brady Skjei (who I've seen ranked as low as 55-60), and mocks drafting Hampus Lindholm who I've seen ranked as high as 14.

I'm not saying draft for need over BPA, just that BPA isn't exactly the most concrete philosophy.
Canucks might have the 15th-18th pick...

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Canucks might have the 15th-18th pick...
No, the best pick they can get is 26th. The playoff teams that are out in the 1st or 2nd round are ranked in reverse order by standings position from 15th-26th. Since the Canucks were #1 in the league, they get the worst pick.

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Can we pull a Philadelphia and trade all of our under performing stars for underrated prospects that are NHL-ready?

The answer: not all in one year.

Sign the BPA and (hopefully) sign a big name free agent. I'd love to think Parise would invigorate Kesler to the point where they could be our new first line, but that's probably wishful thinking.

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Anyone thought about Henrik Samuelsson as a 2nd rd pick? Son of Ulf Samuelsson. Has produced close to a point per game on the Oil Kings in the WHL.

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