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I'd assume Orpik and Letang aren't going anywhere. I see the Pens trying to find someone to take on Martin's contract for basically anything. That would leave:
xxx would be acquired in a trade or via free agency. I don't see the Pens totally re-vamping their defense considering Despres and Morrow are waiting in the wings. Adding a free agent like Wideman, Oduya, or Salo to fill the gap is what I see them doing.
Call me crazy, but I think Ballard would fit in very will with the Penguins system. I know they already have Letang, and Ballard has a hefty cap hit, but I really believe a more open system will help him get his career back on track.
He has a lot of skill and potential, but his style just doesn't coincide with the coaching system implemented by the Nucks.
My first offer (always aiming high with first offer remember) would be
Call me crazy, but I think Ballard would fit in very will with the Penguins system.
No interest in him. If the Pens are making changes to the D, it'll be an upgrade, and while he's talented and misused in Vancouver, he's not the sort that they're looking for.
No interest in him. If the Pens are making changes to the D, it'll be an upgrade, and while he's talented and misused in Vancouver, he's not the sort that they're looking for.
But I really want Tangradi...
What would it take it pry him from you guys? In your opinion of course.
Rofl. Wait, I thought you guys had a plethera of dmen that everyone would want and that you were looking to sell them off to the highest bidder. Oh my how views have changed over just two games.
Ok, here you go. IT'S JUST TWO GAMES!!! If we (the Flyers) paniced like this after not beating the damned smurfs once this year then we'd be calling for a blowing up of our team too. The Pens are fine. Maybe you just don't match up well against us. Maybe if yoy had played the Sens and us the Rangers that you guys have a relatively easy road to the cup. Imo there is no reason to panic (btw two of my kids are huge Pens fans so we watch all the games from both teams, god i love hockey). I think that only minor tweaks need to be made and imo shero is the best GM in the league and I am confident that he'll address the necessary issues. Btw, your defensive play is much much better now than it was two years ago. Martin may be having a tougj year but he's still a plus for your team. Also, once Crosby is 100% (and no, I don't believe he is YET) teams like us won't be able to just focus on shutting down Malkin and be confident on being able to out score Crosby's line.
If I were a Pens fan (and what I tell my kids) is that you have to almost write off last year and this year due to injuries. Honestly, unless your injured superstars never fully recover, sacraficing these past two seasons may be a blessing in disguise as it has forced others to step up their game. The Pens have done a fabulous job last year and this year when you take into account the injuries to the star players they have had to endure. Few teams could absorb the lose of two or three of their top 4 players for more than half the season and fair as well as the Pens.
I absolutely LOVE our depth but i am envious of your star power. Go look at almost any thread involving Schenn or Couturier and yoy will see us refusing everything but stupid overpayment because we still compare (and need to match up against) the Pens. Unlike most Flyers fans I don't hate the Pens nor do I want them to wallow in muck & mire (my kids would be unhappy and besides I just love hockey in general). Letang has been exposed a bit in this series. He needs to become a little more conservative imo. He is great offensively but he just can't let that be at the expense of costing his team defensivly. Your bottom pairing was caught out there in a bad matchup for them and we scored. The same exact thing happened to us against the Hawks in game two and it ultimately cost us the cup. That doean't mean you blow things up. Jesus you still probably have the elite team in the league. If your season is over then a few minor tweaks and a little more healing time is all that is needed imo.
Yea, he had an embarrassing year. But only 1/6th of his contract has been completed. He may never be worth the 4.5 mil. But at this point in his contract length, I'm not concerned he won't have more productive years. I honestly think at the END of his 6th year, he'll average 45-55 points over the length. Again, not really worth the 4.5 mil.... Oh well
I'd assume Orpik and Letang aren't going anywhere. I see the Pens trying to find someone to take on Martin's contract for basically anything. That would leave:
xxx would be acquired in a trade or via free agency. I don't see the Pens totally re-vamping their defense considering Despres and Morrow are waiting in the wings. Adding a free agent like Wideman, Oduya, or Salo to fill the gap is what I see them doing.
Two issues. Niskanen hasn't played yet. And Lovejoy is killing them. I see Martin leaving (and despite what people say, they will be able to move him and it won't be a cap dump - although I'd be alright with that too). I'm not sure any of their minor leaguers (Strait, Bortuzzo) will be up to the task. I think they'll be solid 3rd pairing D down the road, however are not quite what they need yet. The young guys (Despres and Morrow) will be more of PMD as opposed to a shutdown type.
The loss of a Scuderi type is hurting them. Michalek is similar and better in many aspects, but he needs a partner who is better suited than Martin and Orpik.
Letang Orpik
Michalek Niskanen
UFA - Engelland
I see Martin gone, and some sort of physical guy who can hopefully play a shutdown role. Either via FA or trade. Ideally we could sign Suter, however I don't think that's realistic. There's a few UFAs who might fit the bill, all of which should be cheaper than Suter or Martin:
Jackman
Allen
Morrisson
Sarich
Stuart
Wideman
Rozsival
Just last week the Pens were going to trade away their excess of NHL defenceman.
We have a lot of NHL caliber D-Men and number of solid prospects in Despres, Morrow and Harrington. A lot of them are more PMD types though. We need a stay at home type with some size and grit.
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Originally Posted by Minimalist
Call me crazy, but I think Ballard would fit in very will with the Penguins system. I know they already have Letang, and Ballard has a hefty cap hit, but I really believe a more open system will help him get his career back on track.
He has a lot of skill and potential, but his style just doesn't coincide with the coaching system implemented by the Nucks.
My first offer (always aiming high with first offer remember) would be
Ballard
3rd
for
Tangradi
*cap dump if needed*
Problem is Martin has to be the cap dump and I can't see Vancouver wanting his salary if they don't like Ballard's which is a bit less. I do think something around Ballard and Martin would be good for the two players though. Both guys desperately need a change of scenery. I personally would throw in Tangradi to make up for Martin making 800k more than Ballard. Still hard to imagine that deal happening though.
Never in a million years. We value Harry so highly after the WJC.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minimalist
Call me crazy, but I think Ballard would fit in very will with the Penguins system. I know they already have Letang, and Ballard has a hefty cap hit, but I really believe a more open system will help him get his career back on track.
He has a lot of skill and potential, but his style just doesn't coincide with the coaching system implemented by the Nucks.
My first offer (always aiming high with first offer remember) would be
Ballard
3rd
for
Tangradi
*cap dump if needed*
The cap dump will be Martin, but Ballard has an extra year, so we might want something else.
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Originally Posted by Minimalist
But I really want Tangradi...
What would it take it pry him from you guys? In your opinion of course.
How do you guys value Jensen? or your 2012 1st? Those two i would do for sure.
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Originally Posted by Petro Points
sign Justin Schultz.. Have super Mario invite him for tea and work things out!
/thread
I like the idea.
Letang-Orpik
Schultz-Michalek
Niskanen-Engelland
I think Justin will go to a team where he can play more minutes like Toronto.
No. Harrington is still developing and has a chance of advancing onto WBS next season. I don't want him traded away for a 3rd line D-man when he could become better.
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Originally Posted by smoke meat pete
Just last week the Pens were going to trade away their excess of NHL defenceman.
We still have an excess of defenceman, that hasn't changed. We are in the luxury when we have a lot of prospects who can come in at the right time but if they don't work then they can be traded for decent prospects or roster players going forward.
It's obvious that Martin is A) Not liked as he used, he is now a liability, B) On a big contract at $5million and C) Likely to be traded away. Penguins should give up the pipe dream of signing Parise and try to shore the D first, it's the one thing that's be holding us back and we could still find the pieces going forward to improve the forward group. I want to see something like this next season on Defence:
