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04-11-2012, 06:20 PM
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Giroux, or anyone else that seems to be an expert at estimating the Q of a YS player...

I have a player in the YS that I'm curious as to how good he'd actually be. 17 years old showing ?85/?64 with AI ranges over three days of ?53, ?45, and ?46.
My unprofessional guess is 78-81Q. And that's a scary P number he's showing.

EDIT: That's not enough to make a real guess though. His range is probably bigger than that. I'm not sure exactly because I don't have 100 scouting myself. I'd say best case scenario is mid-80s, but likely low 80s.


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Scouting department of 0% is no good -- can't scout a damn thing. Who'd have thunk it?

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My unprofessional guess is 78-81Q. And that's a scary P number he's showing.

EDIT: That's not enough to make a real guess though. His range is probably bigger than that. I'm not sure exactly because I don't have 100 scouting myself. I'd say best case scenario is mid-80s, but likely low 80s.
I would agree with that. It might even be lower. I've had some pretty disappointing pulls show similar AIs.

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That's awesome

EDIT: 3-1 win over the 6th place Capitals! That's the best team I had left on the schedule. Aside from the team I'm trying to catch, Nanook of the North. I'm only 2 points behind 9th and 4 behind 8th. I have Rockridge up next. They'll be atough team, but they're locked into 12th place. Maybe they won't be trying too hard. I probably won't catch Nanook anyway. They get to play two of the worst teams. But if Windsor can force OT tomorrow, and I win of course, it'll make Monday's game very interesting.


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Hrm... Four points up on 4th, 4 points back of 2nd, and at Heavenly TS. Never would have thought I'd be in this position.

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I've just returned to HA after about a year and a half hiatus (with a new team, of course). Team's name is 'Pittsburgh Prowess', since my old team 'Pittsburgh Power' is now the name of the city's Arena League Football team. Yuck.

They put me in USA V.5 (with what appears to be mostly AI teams or inactives, so getting out should take all of one season).

Just a few things I guess I need to catch up on. First of all, I don't remember what time the matches and training are calculated. I think it used to be 6 PM EST when I played before, but now I'm not so sure. Also, it looks like the stadium building has been revamped, and I've been kind of afraid to touch that so far, especially with my day-old team not in playoff position (so no revenue aside from friendlies for a while).

Other than that, it looks like business as usual. I guess I'll spend the off season looking for cheap players to replace the pylons that my team started with.

On a side note, I was happy to see that a player I got from my previous team's youth school (Jerald Handy) is still alive and kickin' on the US National team. Not bad kid, not bad.

Anyway, glad to be back, and I hope my stay is permanent this time.

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What in the world is this 'Playout' thing in the league menu?

*Edit Again*

Automatic training also seems really useful, but I'm not sure I fully understand how it works. Do I need to set up a training schedule for someone using the automatic training feature?

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Oh well. I'm finally out of the playoff hunt. That miserable start really screwed me up. I'm happy with the way the team played in the second half, so I'm expecting better things next season.

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I've just returned to HA after about a year and a half hiatus (with a new team, of course). Team's name is 'Pittsburgh Prowess', since my old team 'Pittsburgh Power' is now the name of the city's Arena League Football team. Yuck.
Welcome back

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Just a few things I guess I need to catch up on. First of all, I don't remember what time the matches and training are calculated. I think it used to be 6 PM EST when I played before, but now I'm not so sure. Also, it looks like the stadium building has been revamped, and I've been kind of afraid to touch that so far, especially with my day-old team not in playoff position (so no revenue aside from friendlies for a while).
I think Slovakian matches start around 1PM est. Czech games are around 2pm maybe? US matches are earlier because they moved the big countries games up. I think they now start around 4:15est. It seems to me that training happens at thee same time.

Stadium stuff is still the same as far as importance. Build T/R & YS. The research stuff is the same as building. Except now you can change your stadium from 0 to however high you've researched. That's just so you can turn off parts of your stadium that you're not using. A rebuilding team doesn't really need Marketing & Cheerleaders. Drop them to 0 to save money. Then you can raise it back to your max whenever you want. It'll cost nothing, but it does take time.

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The playout is how you determine who relegates now. You keep the points earned during the regular season, and you play the other 7 teams who didn't make the playoffs. Whoever has the fewest points after this gets relegated.

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I've never used it. Someone else will have to explain that.

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Yes it is

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Thanks!

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I think Slovakian matches start around 1PM est. Czech games are around 2pm maybe? US matches are earlier because they moved the big countries games up. I think they now start around 4:15est. It seems to me that training happens at thee same time.

Stadium stuff is still the same as far as importance. Build T/R & YS. The research stuff is the same as building. Except now you can change your stadium from 0 to however high you've researched. That's just so you can turn off parts of your stadium that you're not using. A rebuilding team doesn't really need Marketing & Cheerleaders. Drop them to 0 to save money. Then you can raise it back to your max whenever you want. It'll cost nothing, but it does take time.
So once you've researched a certain level, you build it, and then that's it? I'm just curious, like if I somehow came into about 100 Billion, I could just research Training to level 100, but then what does actually building to that level cost me?

Also, once my Cheerleading/Marketing are level 0 (in 15 days), does building them back to level 15 cost anything?


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The playout is how you determine who relegates now. You keep the points earned during the regular season, and you play the other 7 teams who didn't make the playoffs. Whoever has the fewest points after this gets relegated.
Uh oh. I picked up the 15th ranked team in my division, with 2 games left to go in the season. This could be a problem, unless it's actually a sort of round-robin sort of deal where I can still earn more points after the season ends. I might be the first human team ever to relegate in V division.

Anyway, thanks so much for your help!

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04-13-2012, 07:53 PM
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I've played around with the auto-training a bit, this is how I think it works:

You pick what you'd like to train (OFF, DEF etc.). Then set the value you would like to train it up to and hit add. From there you can set a separate skill and value second.

The training will automatically train what you set first up until it reaches the set value. After that it will switch itself to the second skill you put in.

Something like:

OFF -> 50
SHOT -> 50
SC -> 20

It will train OFF to 50, once it gets there it train SHOT to 50, then self control to 20.

Side note: I can't believe there are players out there now that will be hitting 300 AI at 22.

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300 AI at 22?!

I thought it was confirmed that the higher T&R doesn't give a noticeable boost right now?

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Yeah, you're getting my kids, Rune. Go easy on my 80 AI goalie, will ya?

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Never!

Hrm, I suppose I can make alterations to the usual tactics.

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Hrm, I suppose I can make alterations to the usual tactics.
Haha, don't change too much. I wouldn't want to embarrass you again.

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Hmm, I did say I was coming for blood in the next game earlier in the season. So I suppose I won't make alterations to the tactics. Don't want to be dishonest and all by doing something different than what I said.

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So once you've researched a certain level, you build it, and then that's it? I'm just curious, like if I somehow came into about 100 Billion, I could just research Training to level 100, but then what does actually building to that level cost me?

Also, once my Cheerleading/Marketing are level 0 (in 15 days), does building them back to level 15 cost anything?
If you don't 'Change' the level, then once you research something it goes to level you researched. The 'build' part is automatic, part of the research. Say I have 110 training, I decide I only want 100, so I change it. Then I research it to 115. It will stay at 100 because that's where I put it.

Once you've researched something, it will cost you nothing to 'build'. You can go from 0 to your max and it's free. This is only here to 'turn off' parts of the stadium you don't need.

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Uh oh. I picked up the 15th ranked team in my division, with 2 games left to go in the season. This could be a problem, unless it's actually a sort of round-robin sort of deal where I can still earn more points after the season ends. I might be the first human team ever to relegate in V division.
I'm not really sure how many games you play in the playout. This came out right my rebuild got me into the playoffs. This will be my first season in a playout. I think you play the other 7 teams once. Yeah, it must be once. The teams in the playoffs play 6-9 games. And the points earned in those games are added to your regular season points. The 4 teams with the fewest total points relegate.

There is also a bug with the playout that happens every season. After the regular season, the playout/playoffs are set up, but the playout schedule is always wrong. It gets fixed the next day. Maybe icko fixed it this season


Have you done the Manager Assignments? Click on the Manager tab at the bottom of the left menu. They give you free money while trying to teach you about the game. I think it was 300K per assignment.

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I've just returned to HA after about a year and a half hiatus (with a new team, of course).
Welcome back - I had wondered where you'd disappeared off to.

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Rink Rats lost! Clinched top seed!

Yay, I get to throw my 17 year old goalie out for another thrashing. Actually next game is against a bottom four team so who knows.

37 shots, Rune? You *******.



EDIT: If anyone needs a friendly or two, I have some open spots. I pull in 3.6 to almost 5 mill per friendly depending on who I play.


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Interesting how the top 5 are all locked in their positions. No one can move up or down, only 6 and below can switch. As such Frito and Middletown are a lock for a first round matchup, and I'll have either Hermitage or Goldfish.

Rats could get either Hermitage, Goldfish, or Demolitia. Giroux would get Goldfish, Demolitia, Bricklayers, or Ice Devils.

EDIT: Looking at the schedule, Steelcable has an easy matchup against the 15th placed team. So barring a miracle, he's a lock for 8th. Which leaves Hermitage and Goldfish who play AYFS and Rats respectively. Rats could throw the match like Giroux since there is nothing to play for, and I would assume you would be playing to help stay alive in the Playout AYFS.

So it's really more like Hermitage will be 6th or 7th, Goldfish could go to all three spots, and Steelcable will either be in 7th or 8th.

An unrelated question... Is HA Tools still working for anyone else? Whenever I try it simply says it can't find the teams listed. Except it does that for every team id that is input.


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If you don't 'Change' the level, then once you research something it goes to level you researched. The 'build' part is automatic, part of the research. Say I have 110 training, I decide I only want 100, so I change it. Then I research it to 115. It will stay at 100 because that's where I put it.

Once you've researched something, it will cost you nothing to 'build'. You can go from 0 to your max and it's free. This is only here to 'turn off' parts of the stadium you don't need.



I'm not really sure how many games you play in the playout. This came out right my rebuild got me into the playoffs. This will be my first season in a playout. I think you play the other 7 teams once. Yeah, it must be once. The teams in the playoffs play 6-9 games. And the points earned in those games are added to your regular season points. The 4 teams with the fewest total points relegate.

There is also a bug with the playout that happens every season. After the regular season, the playout/playoffs are set up, but the playout schedule is always wrong. It gets fixed the next day. Maybe icko fixed it this season


Have you done the Manager Assignments? Click on the Manager tab at the bottom of the left menu. They give you free money while trying to teach you about the game. I think it was 300K per assignment.
Yeah, I'm working through the assignments, but it seems like you have to do them in the order that they are given, and I'm stuck on training my goalie up one point in Goaltending. It's nice to get 300K for next to nothing like that.

It also looks like 7 games for the playout. It's a really good idea if I do say so myself. Before, if you missed the playoffs, you had to scratch and claw to get any revenue in friendlies for 3 weeks. Hopefully, that's resolved to some extent.

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Welcome back - I had wondered where you'd disappeared off to.
I'm not really sure what made me stop playing. I had just promoted to IV.2 for the first time, and I think I was reasonably competitive, but probably stuck in a rut between 10th and 12th or something. I believe I got frustrated with the lack of ability to develop young players without sacrificing roster spots in a super-competitive league. Now, we can send promising young players to the super-youth school. It's not a perfect system, but I can live with it.

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An unrelated question... Is HA Tools still working for anyone else? Whenever I try it simply says it can't find the teams listed. Except it does that for every team id that is input.
If you have a sponsor pack, HA now has a league comparison page like HA tools had with all the same categories. Since they changed that, it hasn't worked for me (HA tools, that is).

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Damn you, icko. He clearly did that to force us to all get sponser packs.

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I made a deal with jonandabby to play our game yesterday on Low. I even moved the kids back to the top line because I have nothing to play for. I won 3-2 and now I feel like a rhymes-with-dock. This is why I hate making deals.

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Yeah, I'm working through the assignments, but it seems like you have to do them in the order that they are given, and I'm stuck on training my goalie up one point in Goaltending. It's nice to get 300K for next to nothing like that.

It also looks like 7 games for the playout. It's a really good idea if I do say so myself. Before, if you missed the playoffs, you had to scratch and claw to get any revenue in friendlies for 3 weeks. Hopefully, that's resolved to some extent.
There's actually two groups of assignments. The second one has a bunch of nearly unobtainable goals (Promote 7 straight seasons!?! Win all 30 games in regulation?). But you can do them in any order.

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Damn you, icko. He clearly did that to force us to all get sponser packs.
Yeah. That sucks. Hopefully he doesn't take away the HATools on the match report. I love being able to do a quick comparison like that.

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Looking at the schedule, Steelcable has an easy matchup against the 15th placed team. So barring a miracle, he's a lock for 8th. Which leaves Hermitage and Goldfish who play AYFS and Rats respectively. Rats could throw the match like Giroux since there is nothing to play for, and I would assume you would be playing to help stay alive in the Playout AYFS.
Yes, I am, however I don't think I changed it up against Hermitage, favoring raising team spirit in prep for the playout, especially after beating Goldfish and yesterday's match on high this week.

I'm going to have to be smart about managing the playout in order to stay above the line, and a couple of players I might otherwise have sold this week will need to stay on the roster.

Next season I better get my crap together or I'll be in serious trouble - I have no idea how this season went as poorly as it did.

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So I'm starting this playout 10 points below the relegation line. This should be interesting...

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Nice season. The kids are alright and i almost made the playoffs, now only one game on the road on the playout thats nice.

Btw, im thinking of buying a 20 year goalie. Should i go for it or keep the money? Im not sure its a good investment.

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I got bored and looked through an old thread. Saw a lineup Tujague had with Matthew Cagle, Roy Rector, Myraz Nasti, Jerry Delorosa, and Ziggy-something.

Realized it was only 8 seasons ago, in season 34, that the rebuild first started that turned into the current team. Looking at then and now is just ugh.

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