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04-15-2012, 12:38 AM
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Should John Scott Play?

I never expected this, but Scott may actually have a use versing the Sens on Monday. Because of what has happened between the Boyle/Karlsson conflict and Hagelin injuring Alfredson, never before have our star players been in more foreseeable danger to be injured intentionally.

Accord to Sather, Scott was acquired primarily to protect our players versing teams like the Bruins specifically, but this series has boiled over to an unexpectedly vicious level. Konopka, Phillips, Carkner, Neil, all these guys will pose as threats to Gaborik, Richards, Callahan, Lundqvist, and co. for the remainder of this series. Whether it was intentional or not, we took their friggin' captain out and they will want vengeance. So this begs the question...

Should John Scott play?


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04-15-2012, 12:46 AM
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you hit the nail on the head couldn't have said it better. yes john scott needs to be in the lineup for game 3 for the reasons you have just stated, what happens if he isn't dressed and they take runs at our star players but this time injure them? at that time we could kiss it all goodbye then. neil and scott have previously fought correct?

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Yes he should play over Mitchell.

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Yes, he should play and this is why they got him.

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No. It will make zero difference.

I will gladly eat the crow if he dresses and somehow turns the tide in the Rangers favor.

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no way. we need to win games more than we need a big body taking penalties all game.

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04-15-2012, 01:02 AM
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yes, but only if needed.
He should be dressed but not see the ice unless there are liberties.

Frankly if Callahan can play 20 minutes so can Dubinsky.

I'd like to see

Dubinsky (20) - Richards (22) - Gaborik (22)
Anisimov (15) - Stepan (18) - Callahan (23)
Kreider (10) - Boyle (16) - Fedotenko (14)
Prust (10) - Rupp (10) - Scott (0 - 5)

These would be rough ice times with Scott being played when needed.

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04-15-2012, 01:04 AM
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No, our regulars (Boyle, Dubi, Cally) will be ready.
Let the Sens goon it up, and fail. They will get frustrated, and make things worse for them.
They taught this in pre-school. The best way to fight bullies is not to fight them at all

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04-15-2012, 01:07 AM
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you hit the nail on the head couldn't have said it better. yes john scott needs to be in the lineup for game 3 for the reasons you have just stated, what happens if he isn't dressed and they take runs at our star players but this time injure them? at that time we could kiss it all goodbye then. neil and scott have previously fought correct?
keep in mind ottawa didn't dress konopka or carkner for game one, but after what boyle did to karlsson, their coach wasn't going to take any chances for game two. it'll be interesting to see if things escalate in game three.

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Realistically, Scott gets thrown out the game with another Senator early enough before he becomes a liability on the ice, if he plays.

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Are you kidding me? Not a chance.

With last change in Ottawa, Scummy Maclean will toss out karlson and he will skate circles around that line. We need to play our game and not switch up our tactics, dont let other teams indicate what we do.

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John Scott is too slow to contribute anything on the ice... Too slow to forecheck and too slow to put himself into a position to hit with any regularity. He should not see the ice. Rupp & Bickel & Prust are more than capable of defending their teammates....

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04-15-2012, 01:17 AM
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You guys talk like the rest of the team is a bunch of pansies who are afraid to stick up for their teammates or themselves. Not saying they're invincible and can't get hurt, but they can certainly hold their own. This season has shown how tight-knit this team is and if anything, I think Scott will do a worse job compared to guys like Prust/Rupp/etc. since he's just a wanderer; what allegiance does he have to this team or the players? What reason or incentive (aside from the fact it's his implied job) does he have to immediately rush a guy who laid a dirty hit on a Ranger? Hell, even Richie jumped in tonight when McDonagh or someone was getting shoved around too much near the crease after the whistle. Chances are Scott doesn't give a damn about our system or "doing things the right way" and is just glad he's getting a paycheck.

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Yes he should, but I doubt he will. Then after Gaborik takes a dirty knee and is injured, Torts will put Scott in for
game 4.

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Realistically, Scott gets thrown out the game with another Senator early enough before he becomes a liability on the ice, if he plays.
That's pretty much how I feel. Honestly, I'm not even sure how much faith I put into Scott's "intimidation" role since no one is ever willing to fight him and is he at all a physical presence without his fists? He's big but I'm expecting Game 3 to be called tightly in the beginning and he handicaps the roster.

But if he's able to take out anyone on the Senators with when he presumably gets thrown out, I'm okay with him playing. There is always the risk he takes a dumb penalty or handicaps our team by getting thrown out for a dumb reason... Rupp can play and might be able to fill the role Scott would be looking to fill.

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I want Kreider to play instead of Mitchell. Kreider could potentially help on the powerplay and create scoring chances with his speed.

If they want to take runs at our skilled player then have Bickel cheap shot Spezza. Between Rupp, Prust and Bickel I think we have enough toughness.

If you want to increase our physical play. Torts could use Rupp more. He only played a little over two minutes with no Dubi in our lineup.

And what exactly did they do to Boyle? He scored a goal and was one of our better forwards. He needs to facewash Karlson again. Maybe next time we can actually score a couple of goals with a 5 minute major.

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God no to Scott. Retribution comes from eliminating the Sens. And we can definitely beat them without Scott.

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04-15-2012, 03:31 AM
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Replace "should" with "is he even remotely capable" and we have a legit question.

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Have you guys seen Scott skate? He's not a hockey player and he shold never play another game for the Rangers.

Let Rupp stand up and do the goonery if there is a need.

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04-15-2012, 05:26 AM
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If Torts plays Rupp, who is actually capable of playing hockey, about 2 minutes, what is going to give a guy like Scott? 30 seconds of ice time?

Not worth it at all.

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The only advantage for Scott in the game for us is if he jumped on a non toughie in the first few seconds of the game and somebody jumped in to help and gets a 3rd man into an altercation penalty like Dubi received...it's that simple . I don't think we need to dress him .

One on one...Carkner could probably even beat Scott and how would our team moral be then ???

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If Carkners not suspended than he has to be. We shouldn't worry about Neil. Rupp can take care of him, as we saw when Neil ran from him for an entire shift.

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Playing Scott in Ottawa would be an awful idea. Not only are we in their dojo, but it means that the dirty play is going to continue. We'd be asking for trouble, and honestly Ottawa will dominate a physical/dirty game in either venue. Tortorella won't allow it(see Avery). Best bet is biting the bullet and beating them at hockey like New York did the first game. Rupp only played ~3 minutes last night. So did Bickel. Torts clearly doesn't want to play that game. (and for good reason. We're not good at it)

Replace Hagelin (assuming suspension) with Kreider and hope something good happens with him. If he keeps up, hold him in place of Mitchell, if not leave the lines how they are. No Scott yet though imo.

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yes, but only if needed.
He should be dressed but not see the ice unless there are liberties.

Frankly if Callahan can play 20 minutes so can Dubinsky.

I'd like to see

Dubinsky (20) - Richards (22) - Gaborik (22)
Anisimov (15) - Stepan (18) - Callahan (23)
Kreider (10) - Boyle (16) - Fedotenko (14)
Prust (10) - Rupp (10) - Scott (0 - 5)

These would be rough ice times with Scott being played when needed.
I like that lineup... If Hagelin is suspended and Mitchell should sit,hes garbage

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One on one...Carkner could probably even beat Scott
He will.

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