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04-13-2012, 06:29 PM
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He was a -6 in the playoffs and Yakupov was a -8 ??
I hate players with - number. No to Yakupov or Galchenyuk to the Habs.

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Some scouts would disagree.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhoc...rhockey,wp9751
Fri Apr 13 10:05am EDT
Sarnia Sting’s Alex Galchenyuk has a case to go No. 1 in NHL draft, scouts say

By Neate Sager
Alex is an extremely skilled player, who missed nearly six months of action with a knee injury. "Alex was right there in our pre-season discussions about who might be the No. 1 prospect for this year's draft," says HockeyProspect.com scout Ryan Yessie. Ryan lives in Sarnia, and had over 40 live viewings of Alex before his injury. "We felt Alex had everything needed to be that No. 1 prospect. It was very disappointing to see him go down with this injury, and we feel that although he only played a few games, he proved what we believe to have the most upside at the NHL level of any prospect."
And Hockey Prospect just named him #1 as well.

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And Hockey Prospect just named him #1 as well.
Seager's story is based specifically off the Hockey Prospect article, as you can see in the quote.

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I'm not sure if you've ever seen both Nail Yakupov and Alex Galchenyuk in person, but I've seen Nail consistently for the last 2 seasons, I would say i'm at 75 LIVE viewings of Nail, and have defended him in Grigorenko arguments, who I have also seen LIVE on multiple occasions.

With Alex's injury I'm at about 50 LIVE viewings of him. Live in person viewings are different from video, but in all honesty I have no idea if you have seen these guys in person, how many times, or anything like that.

I just think it's unfair to attack someone ("obviously dilusional") for believing that Alex Galchenyuk might be the #1 prospect in an Alex Galchenyuk thread. Doesn't mean he'll go #1, just that he'll project to be the best NHLer out of the bunch. It doesn't mean it's a knock on Yakupov, Griogrenko or anyone else you might prefer, but it's simply an opinion, and it bothers me when guys are attacked.

Hell, we were "dilusional" according to a few when we ranked Tyler Seguin over Taylor Hall, but 2 years later looks like it wasn't the case. In October we were ripped hard for ranking Jared McCann over Joshua Ho-Sang and Robert Fabbri for the OHL Draft. But in April Jared was taken over both players. Trying to get an explanation makes a lot more sense than just ripping someone apart.
In what world?

I think Galchenyuk is going to be a great player, he could be near the same level as Yakupov when it's all said and done. But you just can't take a guy who didn't play during his draft year at #1. You can't.

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They definitely did not play together even strength. You seem to be a Sarnia fan but everyother Sarnia fan has confirmed Galchenyuk did not play with Yakupov.

Yakupov was double shifted on the powerplay last season so that's that but they definitely weren't playing together.
Yes they definetly DID play on the same line together last year MOST of the time. Probably 3/4 of the time they were linemates. Yes Nail did play on a line with Kerbasian and Peters now and then but primarily he was on Gallys wing. They also played first PP unit together.

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If Canada is considering Ryan Murray for the WC, the USA should consider Galchenyuk for their team.

Right now their 2nd to 4th line centers are: Slater, Thompson and Dwyer. Someone named Ryan Lasch is on the team.

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If Canada is considering Ryan Murray for the WC, the USA should consider Galchenyuk for their team.

Right now their 2nd to 4th line centers are: Slater, Thompson and Dwyer. Someone named Ryan Lasch is on the team.
What about the Matteau ruling? Wouldn't that basically exclude Galchenyuk?


Galchenyuk wouldn't be unheard of on the US team. Last year they took two NCAA players in Andy Miele and Craig Smith. Although both were quite a bit older than Galchenyuk is.

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If Canada is considering Ryan Murray for the WC, the USA should consider Galchenyuk for their team.
Isn't Galchenyuk a Russian who was born in the US? (meaning he is more likely to play for Russia in tournaments). I am guessing he will play at the under 18s(or is he to old since he was born in feb?)

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Galchenyuk was/is on the USA ''entry list'' for the U-18, so you have to think he's eligible.

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Isn't Galchenyuk a Russian who was born in the US? (meaning he is more likely to play for Russia in tournaments). I am guessing he will play at the under 18s(or is he to old since he was born in feb?)
Hasn't Glachenyuk already declared for the US in international tournaments. I know it was his intention to play for them at the WJHC before he got injured.

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Isn't Galchenyuk a Russian who was born in the US? (meaning he is more likely to play for Russia in tournaments). I am guessing he will play at the under 18s(or is he to old since he was born in feb?)
He has played for the US in the past, but to my knowledge never in an official IIHF competition. So he isn't cap-tied, to borrow a soccer term.


He is eligible for the U-18s but the US almost exclusively takes it's NDTP players.

He would have been on the U-20 team if healthy.

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Galchenyuk was/is on the USA ''entry list'' for the U-18, so you have to think he's eligible.
I assume that Matteau was not on that list?

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I assume that Matteau was not on that list?
I don't know, the first time I checked it he was already ruled ineligible.

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I don't know, the first time I checked it he was already ruled ineligible.
Well I hope you're right. My only worry is that Matteau was actually going to play for the US, whereas Galchenyuk never was.

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Chris Peters has informed me that Galchenyuk would've been deemed ineligible, just like Matteau was, if he were to be named to the team.

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Chris Peters has informed me that Galchenyuk would've been deemed ineligible, just like Matteau was, if he were to be named to the team.
Are you basing that off his tweet after the Matteau incident or some other information?

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Chris Peters has informed me that Galchenyuk would've been deemed ineligible, just like Matteau was, if he were to be named to the team.
Was that determined before or after USA Hockey put him on their entry list? This is all getting a bit ridiculous.

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Was that determined before or after USA Hockey put him on their entry list? This is all getting a bit ridiculous.
Chris Peters made two tweets about it.

At the time of the Matteau ruling he said it would "likely" mean Galchenyuk wouldn't be eligible. Then today he said he "He would have been ruled ineligible anyway, just like Matteau."


Ridiculous is the operative word.

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Chris Peters made two tweets about it.

At the time of the Matteau ruling he said it would "likely" mean Galchenyuk wouldn't be eligible. Then today he said he "He would have been ruled ineligible anyway, just like Matteau."
Ridiculous is the operative word.
^This is what he told me.

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Chris Peters made two tweets about it.

At the time of the Matteau ruling he said it would "likely" mean Galchenyuk wouldn't be eligible. Then today he said he "He would have been ruled ineligible anyway, just like Matteau."


Ridiculous is the operative word.
I hope this gets resolved over the summer, because unless Galchenyuk and Matteau get drafted by a U.S. based NHL team they might not ever suit up for the U.S.

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I'm not sure if you've ever seen both Nail Yakupov and Alex Galchenyuk in person, but I've seen Nail consistently for the last 2 seasons, I would say i'm at 75 LIVE viewings of Nail, and have defended him in Grigorenko arguments, who I have also seen LIVE on multiple occasions.

With Alex's injury I'm at about 50 LIVE viewings of him. Live in person viewings are different from video, but in all honesty I have no idea if you have seen these guys in person, how many times, or anything like that.

I just think it's unfair to attack someone ("obviously dilusional") for believing that Alex Galchenyuk might be the #1 prospect in an Alex Galchenyuk thread. Doesn't mean he'll go #1, just that he'll project to be the best NHLer out of the bunch. It doesn't mean it's a knock on Yakupov, Griogrenko or anyone else you might prefer, but it's simply an opinion, and it bothers me when guys are attacked.

Hell, we were "dilusional" according to a few when we ranked Tyler Seguin over Taylor Hall, but 2 years later looks like it wasn't the case. In October we were ripped hard for ranking Jared McCann over Joshua Ho-Sang and Robert Fabbri for the OHL Draft. But in April Jared was taken over both players. Trying to get an explanation makes a lot more sense than just ripping someone apart.
So you're the guy!! Lol Funny thing is, 24 out of 25 real scouts picked Yakupov to go first, and Galchenyuk wasn't even the second. And also, what makes Seguin the better player than Hall exactly. Say want you want, but our head (real) scouts made the right decision.

BTW, for your information. Yakupov's PPG pace went up without Galchenyuk this year not down. What a hack!


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I hope this gets resolved over the summer, because unless Galchenyuk and Matteau get drafted by a U.S. based NHL team they might not ever suit up for the U.S.
Well there is zero chance that Matteau plays in the NHL next year and frankly a minor chance that Galchenyuk does. So it might not matter in the end until potentially some World Championship in 2015 or the Olympics in Korea.

What's really assinine about this decision, other than the fact that it seemingly has been enforced for only two weeks in history starting now, is that if by chance Galchenyuk had been drafted by Saginaw, Plymouth or Erie he'd be well and clear as a us player.


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So you're the guy!! Lol Funny thing is, 24 out of 25 real scouts picked Yakupov to go first, and Galchenyuk wasn't even the second. And also, what makes Seguin the better player than Hall exactly. Say want you want, but our head (real) scouts made the right decision.

BTW, for your information. Yakupov's PPG pace went up without Galchenyuk this year not down. What a hack!
I'm sure that could have nothing to do with the fact he already had a year in the league under his belt and a full offseason of training right?

The Sting were also a much more offensively talanted team overall this season than in Nail's rookie season.

I'm not saying Nail should not be widely considered the best prospect in the draft becuase he is, but its not out of the question at all that Galchenyuk has a better NHL career when it's all said and done.

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I'm sure that could have nothing to do with the fact he already had a year in the league under his belt and a full offseason of training right?

The Sting were also a much more offensively talanted team overall this season than in Nail's rookie season.

I'm not saying Nail should not be widely considered the best prospect in the draft becuase he is, but its not out of the question at all that Galchenyuk has a better NHL career when it's all said and done.
I'm just referring to the article where it stated that Yakupov was a product of Galchenyuk and his prodution went down without him. By a hack I mean the "journalism".

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