It was the most unspectacular game a goalie with 46 saves has ever played IMO. Not saying he was terrible, but I think LA had better chances. Lu had one goal that squeaked in on him that he might want back, but overall he was pretty strong IMO.
Your a Canucks fan ofcourse your going to feel like the opposition have the better chances. Tell me when do you feel most nervous in a game, when they play in our end of we play in their end? That tends to make you feel like they have more dangerous chances when in reality it isn't the case. And obviously when they score, certain things will be magnified.
Your a Canucks fan ofcourse your going to feel like the opposition have the better chances. Tell me when do you feel most nervous in a game, when they play in our end of we play in their end? That tends to make you feel like they have more dangerous chances when in reality it isn't the case. And obviously when they score, certain things will be magnified.
Well I actually watched game 2 and not just the highlights. I felt nervous because of all our defensive breakdowns.
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I told ya so. I was right all along!
If Luongo played as pathetic as our power play people would literally be rioting to get him out of here. I know this for a fact because he's been our best player by far and people still want to bench him. Yet the personnel on our power play seemingly get a free pass, just like our downright pathetic offense from last years playoffs.
Until we change the personnel upfront, no goalie is going to have sustained success on this team. Sorry to break it to most of you, but Schneider will take a lot of heat next year if he's our main goalie and doesn't take us to the Cup when this same group of forwards fail again.
Your arguments are so useless. All anyone is talking about is the atrocious special teams play. The difference is we have no choice but to play our current set of players, unless you think calling up minor leaguers is a good decision.
In goal, we have the option of playing either of two elite calibre goalies. If one goalie has an average game and loses with his team playing like crap in front of him, then it makes sense to give the other goalie a shot - the goalie who has played better throughout the whole year and makes the team appear to play better in front of him, and wins a greater percentage of games.
It was the most unspectacular game a goalie with 46 saves has ever played IMO. Not saying he was terrible, but I think LA had better chances. Lu had one goal that squeaked in on him that he might want back, but overall he was pretty strong IMO.
That's the problem - he lets in those weak goals (in my opinion, the last two were both weak). What if Quick let in one or two of those? He didn't, and that's why he was better than Luongo. When the offense is struggling as it is, letting in a weak goal despite otherwise strong play is not good enough if we have a backup who has a good chance of doing better.
You are wrong too...Luongo has outplayed Quick for the most part. We haven't tested Quick with anywhere near the same quality of chances. Stop watching hilights and try watching the actual game.
That's the problem - he lets in those weak goals (in my opinion, the last two were both weak). What if Quick let in one or two of those? He didn't, and that's why he was better than Luongo. When the offense is struggling as it is, letting in a weak goal despite otherwise strong play is not good enough if we have a backup who has a good chance of doing better.
If the hansen tip isnt a "weak" goal i dont know how you call luongo's play weak..
Obviously if the Canucks have any chance to get into round 2 something has to change. Putting in Schneider is the best option. I think he plays positionally better so is better able to make the save and lets in fewer bad goals. .937 1.96 to .917 2.41. Being behind 2-0 to L.A. is going to be difficult to overcome for anyone. We could play Luongo- lose and trade Schneider in the offseason. Then what.
By the way- goals 3 and 4 in game 2 were stoppable.
If/when we lose this series, it won't be the fault of goaltending. No matter who is in net, we can't win until AV and the defence gets their collective heads out of their azzes. If we win and Schneider is in goal, it only means that after 2 lousy games, the team decided to pull it together - nothing more. Schneider wouldn't have saved either of games 1 or 2.
If Luongo can be run out of town after the last 2 games, then this team deserves it's eventual fate.
Obviously if the Canucks have any chance to get into round 2 something has to change. Putting in Schneider is the best option. I think he plays positionally better so is better able to make the save and lets in fewer bad goals. .937 1.96 to .917 2.41. Being behind 2-0 to L.A. is going to be difficult to overcome for anyone. We could play Luongo- lose and trade Schneider in the offseason. Then what.
By the way- goals 3 and 4 in game 2 were stoppable.
Goal 3 was pure bad luck.
Goal 4 is stoppable if his teammates don't try to put it in the net themselves, or bull over top of Luongo. People need to take the damn blinders off!! If Schneider let those in they would be unstoppable no doubt.
Tinkering with the only part of the team that's shown up for the playoffs this year is just an unbelievably stupid move. I have no idea how anyone can logically think this would help the team.
Goal 3 was pure bad luck.
Goal 4 is stoppable if his teammates don't try to put it in the net themselves, or bull over top of Luongo. People need to take the damn blinders off!! If Schneider let those in they would be unstoppable no doubt.
Tinkering with the only part of the team that's shown up for the playoffs this year is just an unbelievably stupid move. I have no idea how anyone can logically think this would help the team.
schneider is not playing. hes a backup who played mostly easy teams. now is not time to experiment with a guy whos only playoff start had a nervous breakdown and had to leave the game.
If/when we lose this series, it won't be the fault of goaltending. No matter who is in net, we can't win until AV and the defence gets their collective heads out of their azzes. If we win and Schneider is in goal, it only means that after 2 lousy games, the team decided to pull it together - nothing more. Schneider wouldn't have saved either of games 1 or 2.
If Luongo can be run out of town after the last 2 games, then this team deserves it's eventual fate.
No faith in the Canucks? Lest we forget what happened last year with the Bruins?
Canucks are winning this series and thats not just positive thinking.
We have the better goalie tandem in lui/schneids. Quick will falter once we start clicking on the PP.
You honestly think we're going to lose to a LA team with a soft Carter, uninterested Penner. Our team works much harder i.e Hansen, Lapierre, Burrows, Sedin, Kesler
schneider is not playing. hes a backup who played mostly easy teams. now is not time to experiment with a guy whos only playoff start had a nervous breakdown and had to leave the game.
Thank You for setting me (us) straight. Schneider played only easy teams and is a bad goalie. We need a super superstar like Luongo in order to win the Stanley Cup. That is why he needs to play all the games all the time. Instead of losing 4-2 it would probably been 8-2 or maybe 12-2? with Schneider. Thank You. No wonder we pay Luongo so much. We certainly don't want to play a guy who only has played 1 playoff game in his life and fell apart with a nervous breakdown. Funny I don't remember that.
Not for nothing but Schnieder's concentrated season was far more difficult than Lu's. Road games vs elite teams and rivalries. I thought it was to prepare him for the playoffs in the event of a mediocre game by LU and a loss. If game 2 isn't that then I don't know what is. Team needs to do something.
Thank You Luongo supporters for pointing out Schneider is a Bad goalie susceptable to nervous breakdowns. I wasn't aware of this. I actually thought he was a very good goalie but I have been advised. Hopefully Luongo can win tonight as it's obvious he's our only hope.
Thank You for setting me (us) straight. Schneider played only easy teams and is a bad goalie. We need a super superstar like Luongo in order to win the Stanley Cup. That is why he needs to play all the games all the time. Instead of losing 4-2 it would probably been 8-2 or maybe 12-2? with Schneider. Thank You. No wonder we pay Luongo so much. We certainly don't want to play a guy who only has played 1 playoff game in his life and fell apart with a nervous breakdown. Funny I don't remember that.
amnesia? game 6 round 1 last year. and the rest is true. unless you,like others, want a player to play because you like his character more because he can make funny immitations of his team mates whiles hes killing time warming up the bench. or that you like him more because he doesnt make you feel unimportant because he snubs you when he doesnt come out and give a speech when he is announced first star.
Thank You Luongo supporters for pointing out Schneider is a Bad goalie susceptable to nervous breakdowns. I wasn't aware of this. I actually thought he was a very good goalie but I have been advised. Hopefully Luongo can win tonight as it's obvious he's our only hope.
there was a recent interview where he admitted it happened to him earlier as well in another big game,but he was working on keeping that condition at bay. of course you miss those details with blinders on.
Goal 3 was pure bad luck.
Goal 4 is stoppable if his teammates don't try to put it in the net themselves, or bull over top of Luongo. People need to take the damn blinders off!! If Schneider let those in they would be unstoppable no doubt.
Tinkering with the only part of the team that's shown up for the playoffs this year is just an unbelievably stupid move. I have no idea how anyone can logically think this would help the team.
You're talking about blinders? Hilarious.
Answer me this: Who has made more great saves and allowed fewer soft goals this year? Who has won a greater percentage of his games while playing the majority of them on the road? Who has had better stats with the same team in front of him? Luongo...or Schneider?
Hint: The name Sedin should not be in your answer.
No faith in the Canucks? Lest we forget what happened last year with the Bruins?
Canucks are winning this series and thats not just positive thinking.
We have the better goalie tandem in lui/schneids. Quick will falter once we start clicking on the PP.
You honestly think we're going to lose to a LA team with a soft Carter, uninterested Penner. Our team works much harder i.e Hansen, Lapierre, Burrows, Sedin, Kesler
We're not losing this series. Bank on it
It's not about faith at all. The Kings can't really be criticized for anything at this point. Sure, the Canucks might look tougher than last year, but that means nothing if they can't get pressure the puck on the forecheck and can't get to the inside scoring chances. The Canucks might be theoretically more talented, but they need some soul searching for sure and I can't honestly believe that they're willing to do what needs to be done in order to win.
I am beginning to put the blame on the coaches; all year long I have had my doubts about Bowness, but recently Brown has not adjusted a predicable PP and Veenyo and his line combinations and player choices have me siding with the "fire 'em all" crowd.
I am seriously shocked that AV scapegoating Luongo and make zero other adjustments to the team's approach didn't result in more than 8 scoring chances over 60 minutes. What a shocking, unexpected development. I was sure the team just had so little faith in Luongo that this would be enough of a coaching adjustment for the Canucks to win the game.
But, instead, it turns out the team has so little faith in Schneider they played even LESS offense than before!!
