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04-15-2012, 04:00 PM
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Mavericks@Lakers is still in the 3rd quarter. Canucks@Kings is supposed to begin in 5.5 hours. I expect the ice to be ridiculously bad...which is probably not a good thing for the canucks.

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If MG feels like this team needs a new rally leader and new direction in the dressing room, AV is gone - simple as that.
You're talking hypotheticals in a parallel universe. In this universe, with our GM, there is no way AV gets toasted this off-season.

Ain't gonna happen.

He would ship out both Sedins first.

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All the attention is on Schneider...

But this game will be about henrik and Kesler.

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would you let schneider play the entire playoffs if we beat the Kings? or splite between LUongo and Schneider?

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Seems there are three major possibilities:

- Canucks win despite Schneider ******** the bed (i.e., high scoring game)
-> Luongo gets the next start

- Canucks win on the back of Schneider playing well
-> Schneider keeps playing (i.e., Luongo has lost the starting job for the duration)

- Canucks not only win the game, but survive the series, based on Schneider's play
-> Luongo gets traded in the off-season
It's weird how you're calling this three possibilities, but two and three are kind of just two parts of one possibility.

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would you let Luongo play again in round 2 if we beat the kings? I guess you go with schneider.............
What you do is, if schnieder plays well, you ride him until he does something that threatens his starting role in the playoffs

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I'd have no issues with MG letting go of AV, but brining in MacTavish would irritate me. Seeing as it's more than likely he replaces AV, I'd rather stick it out with the lesser of the two evils.

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Makes you wonder why AV didn't consider this kid of rotation in the finals last season

I think Lu and the team knows that this isn't a goaltending thing but really something to change up the team.

Hard to fault Luongo for any goal except maybe the Richards 5-on-3 goal and well that was on a 5-on-3. Would have loved for him to stop Browns breakaway. The other goals usually involved empty nets after his own defensemen came crashing into him.
Because Schneider looked a bit nervous in the playoffs last season, even if he played okay, and you don't take that type of risk in the finals.

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04-15-2012, 04:06 PM
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I'd have no issues with MG letting go of AV, but brining in MacTavish would irritate me. Seeing as it's more than likely he replaces AV, I'd rather stick it out with the lesser of the two evils.
Mac T is a good coach. He turned chicken **** into salad for years in Edmonton, and when management finally got him even a little ounce of talent he guided them to the finals.

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It's weird how you're calling this three possibilities, but two and three are kind of just two parts of one possibility.
Sure, it's all a continuum, really.

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would you let schneider play the entire playoffs if we beat the Kings? or splite between LUongo and Schneider?
How is this a question? If Schneider plays well enough to win the series, how could you not keep playing him until he does poorly?

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Mac T is a good coach. He turned chicken **** into salad for years in Edmonton, and when management finally got him even a little ounce of talent he guided them to the finals.
In hindsight, it may appear that way, but I vividly remember trolling some Oiler fans hard on how bad of a coach Mac T was. He made the playoffs 2 out of the 8 years and his team never finished higher than 3rd in the Northwest. Not an ideal fit.

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I remember that, too - MacT was routinely mocked as a bad coach who got lucky on the one run.

Revisionism hard at work...

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Schnieder getting the start is pure desperation. I doubt it does anybody any good, especially Schnieder! Starting a cold goalie is no way to kickstart a playoff team!!!

Given that Schnieder often whiffs on one goal and the Canucks have so far only managed two a night on LA, I guess they are hoping for a defensive contest. This is expecting a lot from the defense!

I expect this gambit to fail, but I guess you have to try everything in this situation. At least the team won't be underestimating LA any more.

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04-15-2012, 04:18 PM
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Man, watching Philadelphia only makes me 10 times angrier at Gillis and AV. ****ing 3 scoring lines is how you win in the playoffs, not 1.5 and then 3 checking lines.

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04-15-2012, 04:19 PM
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As long as Schneider stays in his net, he should be fine....problem is, he doesn't seem to like staying in his net...he suffers from a bad case of Arturs Irbe.

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04-15-2012, 04:19 PM
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I really don't expect Schneider to have a best game. He's going in cold and he wasn't great in his limited PO play.

What will matter is whether if the guys in front of him don't **** up like they did last time. If they still do, well, time to go golfing.

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Schnieder getting the start is pure desperation. I doubt it does anybody any good, especially Schnieder! Starting a cold goalie is no way to kickstart a playoff team!!!

Given that Schnieder often whiffs on one goal and the Canucks have so far only managed two a night on LA, I guess they are hoping for a defensive contest. This is expecting a lot from the defense!

I expect this gambit to fail, but I guess you have to try everything in this situation. At least the team won't be underestimating LA any more.
Yeah, Schneider whiffed his way to a 1.96gaa and a .937sv%.

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Schnieder getting the start is pure desperation. I doubt it does anybody any good, especially Schnieder! Starting a cold goalie is no way to kickstart a playoff team!!!

Given that Schnieder often whiffs on one goal and the Canucks have so far only managed two a night on LA, I guess they are hoping for a defensive contest. This is expecting a lot from the defense!

I expect this gambit to fail, but I guess you have to try everything in this situation. At least the team won't be underestimating LA any more.
It obviously is pure desperation, but you know - should we get eliminated - people will question why we didn't give Schneider a shot.

We have our backs against the wall. Hopefully - HOPEFULLY - it'll fire up the team even just a little.

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Edler better not crap the bed again tonight. He has given costly goals in both the 2 games.

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My Prediction

-Schneider will play well enough to get the win. He will allow a few to get across.

-The will team play a lot more confident with him in net; less crashing into their own goalie. As a result Schneider plays the rest of the series.

-Offense is allowed to get setup in the zone 5on5 and we score on a PPs. Henrik and Kesler turn it up, while the 4th line get a few good non-penalty energy shifts.

-Edler wakes the **** up. Hansen, pahlsson, and Higgins, unsung heroes again.

Final score 5-3, with an empty netter

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Man, watching Philadelphia only makes me 10 times angrier at Gillis and AV. ****ing 3 scoring lines is how you win in the playoffs, not 1.5 and then 3 checking lines.
Yup. And we could have easily had that scoring depth here if AV groomed our players into those roles.

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@b_rose62: @kidcarson Sign at #LAKings practice facility: "To everyone in LA, #canucks fans sold out the Staples Center. You're welcome" #tsn”

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@b_rose62: @kidcarson Sign at #LAKings practice facility: "To everyone in LA, #canucks fans sold out the Staples Center. You're welcome" #tsn”
beauty!

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yeah, would have to be a situation where he wanted out. Like when he went to management and asked NOT to be the captain.
No nothing like that at all - that decision was in the hands of management. This decision is controlled by Luongo.

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