Doherty.....not so much. Even in Jr he was railed on for not using his size to at least play something that resembles a physical game.
What gets me is that Gudbranson has played in Florida this year. I saw him and really wondered about the expenditure of a high pick. Early in the year, EG and Jovo looked awful. At draft time, Gudbranson was the elite selection and his partner, Doherty, was the afterthought. I really wonder what type of mentoring/coaching that they got in Kingston. For being so well thought of, their +/- in junior was pretty embarrassing.
He's slow, out of position, can't shoot, can't pass, doesn't hit. Makes wrong moves in his end. His only asset with his size is that he angles bodies out of the way.
I think it may be possible that Doherty is still growing into his body. I think it was known he would need a long development period.
Now I know I am going to get flamed for this comparison but wasn't Chara a bit awkward too? Heck he still is a little awkward (has trouble turning) Didn't his coaches tell him that he would be better off playing basketball?
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I think it may be possible that Doherty is still growing into his body. I think it was known he would need a long development period.
I wish it were but I just don't see anything there. With the young guys, we're always looking for that "flash" of something. I just don't see it with him.
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Now I know I am going to get flamed for this comparison but wasn't Chara a bit awkward too? Heck he still is a little awkward (has trouble turning) Didn't his coaches tell him that he would be better off playing basketball?
Not sure I'd call it awkward. He's just not physical, brings no offense/shot, is slow, and doesn't show a lot of fire. With his size I want him to have Petrecki's attitude (but not his brain), and to get out of his comfort zone more. Otherwise he's a 6-7 pylon.
I wish it were but I just don't see anything there. With the young guys, we're always looking for that "flash" of something. I just don't see it with him.
Not sure I'd call it awkward. He's just not physical, brings no offense/shot, is slow, and doesn't show a lot of fire. With his size I want him to have Petrecki's attitude (but not his brain), and to get out of his comfort zone more. Otherwise he's a 6-7 pylon.
I'd be more worried if this is what you guys are describing him as, this time next year. He's a long term project, and he took along time even in Juniors to step up to the grade, but in the end he did.
I'd be more worried if this is what you guys are describing him as, this time next year. He's a long term project, and he took along time even in Juniors to step up to the grade, but in the end he did.
The issues is he's missing 'that "flash" of something'...every prospect, even ones that had huge hills to climb like Petrecki or Desjardins, showed at least moments of what they were capable of even it it was literally just the odd shift now and again.
Speed and I just don't get that vibe from Doherty.
The issues is he's missing 'that "flash" of something'...every prospect, even ones that had huge hills to climb like Petrecki or Desjardins, showed at least moments of what they were capable of even it it was literally just the odd shift now and again.
Speed and I just don't get that vibe from Doherty.
I mean I'd be happy if he was Patrick Traverse in his last year here. On the downside of his career, off to Europe.
Lots of similar issues to the parent club. SJ was a middling 3rd period team, retaining and giving up leads. It looks like Woostah was poor. Big PK issues. Scoring issues as well.
3 goals per game would have landed them 8th in the league in scoring. 6 were in the East and all made the playoffs. The only Western team to average 3 per game was Grand Rapids and they didnt make the playoffs.
I thought the Eastern Conference had unexciting offenses...
3 goals per game would have landed them 8th in the league in scoring. 6 were in the East and all made the playoffs. The only Western team to average 3 per game was Grand Rapids and they didnt make the playoffs.
I thought the Eastern Conference had unexciting offenses...
Worcester was 25th in the AHL in scoring (hard to believe there could possibly be 5 teams worse than them)...one goal per 5 games would have likely gotten them into the playoffs.
Worcester was 25th in the AHL in scoring (hard to believe there could possibly be 5 teams worse than them)...one goal per 5 games would have likely gotten them into the playoffs.
I think I read they were 2-7 in games in which they got 45 shots on goal. 0-6 thru most of the season and then 2-1 once they were effectively out of it. I saw most of those games and there were very few quality chances in the 45.
SJ has been eliminated for 72 hours or so and they havent relieved the AHL coaching staff or AHL GM of their responsibility. 2 of the non playoff teams in the AHL did so 24 hours after the end of the season. Two in a row of ill constructed teams and two in a row of March implosions should make this a no brainer.
Probably bigger things to worry about for SJ but in my opinion its symptomatic of some of the organizations issues.
I think I read they were 2-7 in games in which they got 45 shots on goal. 0-6 thru most of the season and then 2-1 once they were effectively out of it. I saw most of those games and there were very few quality chances in the 45.
SJ has been eliminated for 72 hours or so and they havent relieved the AHL coaching staff or AHL GM of their responsibility. 2 of the non playoff teams in the AHL did so 24 hours after the end of the season. Two in a row of ill constructed teams and two in a row of March implosions should make this a no brainer.
Probably bigger things to worry about for SJ but in my opinion its symptomatic of some of the organizations issues.
I kept track of scoring chances for a couple of games and both times Worcester had under 6...not so surprisingly they lost them both.
It doesn't sound like DW is going anywhere, but hopefull his re-evaluation of his own performance includes Worcester.
Also, I think the Sharks are going to trade for picks and prospects this off-season so hopefully the W will have an infusion of some talent finally, and the Sharks will restock the cupboard a bit.
The Sharks really need to take their AHL team seriously. You want your prospects being mentored in a winning system, from the ground up. Get a quality coaching staff down there (and up here), get some quality players and fight for some championships. I would think the money it would cost would be saved over the long term on player development, trade value, and contracts (players are more likely to sign better deals on a winning a team).
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