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04-16-2012, 10:49 PM
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I just want a solid vet added to the top 4.Then we can give the rookies from Bridgeport,sheltered minutes.
i agree with this but i will never get my hopes up. i know better.

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Ok, don't flame.

Sign Petrov. Nino to Bridgeport. Resign PA, Martin, Haley, Reese. Buyout Reasoner.

Trade Grabner to Nashville for Kevin Klein, Nick Spaling, 2nd rounder next year, and a prospect

Sign Kurtis Foster

Cap Hits:

Moulson ($3,133,333) Tavares ($5,500,000) Parenteau ($4,250,000) *$3 million dollar raise*

Semin ($5,500,000) *Frontload as ***** Spaling ($1,050,000) Petrov ($1,750,000) *Sound about right?*

Bailey ($1,050,000) Nielsen ($2,750,000) Okposo ($2,800,000)

Martin ($1,000,000) *Not sure what he'll get* Haley ($800,000) Ullstrom ($891,666)

Streit ($4,100,000) Klein ($1,350,000)

MacDonald ($550,000) Hamonic ($875,000)

de Haan ($1,470,000) Foster ($1,750,000)

Nabby ($2,750,000)

DP ($4,500,000)

Cap Space: $13,000,000, last years was $15,000,000 plus the Cap might go up

Thoughts?

Klein is a ufa in 2013.I can't see Snow trading a core player on a cheap contract and the main return, is only under team control for 1 season.

Also,I doubt the isles offer Semin such a huge contract.They would be more likely to offer a reclaimation project like Huseluis or Penner, $2.5m on a 1-2 yr deal.

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Ok, don't flame.

Sign Petrov. Nino to Bridgeport. Resign PA, Martin, Haley, Reese. Buyout Reasoner.

Trade Grabner to Nashville for Kevin Klein, Nick Spaling, 2nd rounder next year, and a prospect

Sign Kurtis Foster

Cap Hits:

Moulson ($3,133,333) Tavares ($5,500,000) Parenteau ($4,250,000) *$3 million dollar raise*

Semin ($5,500,000) *Frontload as ***** Spaling ($1,050,000) Petrov ($1,750,000) *Sound about right?*

Bailey ($1,050,000) Nielsen ($2,750,000) Okposo ($2,800,000)

Martin ($1,000,000) *Not sure what he'll get* Haley ($800,000) Ullstrom ($891,666)

Streit ($4,100,000) Klein ($1,350,000)

MacDonald ($550,000) Hamonic ($875,000)

de Haan ($1,470,000) Foster ($1,750,000)

Nabby ($2,750,000)

DP ($4,500,000)

Cap Space: $13,000,000, last years was $15,000,000 plus the Cap might go up

Thoughts?
Nashville will not overpay for an inconsistent, potential "one big season" player. I also doubt that Poille trades Klein, who plays 20 minutes a night, with the possibility of losing Suter.

You do NOT want Foster. He is the worst player in the NHL now that Lebda is gone.


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Carolina's 1st (8th)
Jamie McBain

for

Michael Grabner
NYI 1st (4th)

If Forsberg (who I think is Garth's man) is still on the board I don't think we do this but if he goes to Columbus I can see us doing this deal.

Edit: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jamie_mcbain

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Carolina's 1st (8th)
Jamie McBain

for

Michael Grabner
NYI 1st (4th)

If Forsberg (who I think is Garth's man) is still on the board I don't think we do this but if he goes to Columbus I can see us doing this deal.

Edit: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jamie_mcbain
Don't see Snow doing this, not without Carolina adding something tangible.

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Carolina's 1st (8th)
Jamie McBain

for

Michael Grabner
NYI 1st (4th)

If Forsberg (who I think is Garth's man) is still on the board I don't think we do this but if he goes to Columbus I can see us doing this deal.

Edit: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jamie_mcbain
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Assets Has good size and a lot of offensive ability. Good vision for the man advantage unit. Displays the poise, positioning know-how and skill-set to log plenty of minutes on the ice.

Flaws Needs to tighten up his defensive-zone coverage in order to maximize his potential at the highest level. Also needs to keep working on his strength.

Career Potential Offensive defenseman with all-around upside.
Awards2008WCHA - Player of the Year2008WCHA - First All-Star Team2008NCAA - West First All-American Team2007WCHA - Third All-Star Team
Had shoulder surgery in March of last year.

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Don't see Snow doing this, not without Carolina adding something tangible.
Examples? Evgeny Dadanov is in their system, he looked good with Florida last year.

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04-18-2012, 07:18 AM
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Examples? Evgeny Dadanov is in their system, he looked good with Florida last year.
Maybe Dadonov would be such an example.

But I'm thinking more along the lines of Greg Hofmann, Victor Rask or better yet, Dan Biega.

To be honest, a deal like this only makes sense if the Isles are convinced about a kid they KNOW will be at 8.

I still kind of think it's too much in favor of Carolina as McBain is not necessarily a future stud, but the top 5 this year is looking good and Grabner could still end up being a long-term answer as a 25 goal guy.

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Carolina's 1st (8th)
Jamie McBain

for

Michael Grabner
NYI 1st (4th)

If Forsberg (who I think is Garth's man) is still on the board I don't think we do this but if he goes to Columbus I can see us doing this deal.

Edit: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jamie_mcbain
i don't see jamie mcbain as the guy to give up 4 draft slots for but i'm not inside garth's head (thank goodness) and have no idea if he has some kid ranked high that no one else does.

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04-19-2012, 12:18 AM
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I lmao on the main trade board.A leafs fan proposed the following trade:
Connoly,Lombardi,Armstrong,Komosarek,D'Amigo,2nd
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NYI 1st,Moulson


My response-
Isles wouldn't deal their 1st alone for that group of scraps.
Connoly-ufa in 2013,overpaid at $4.75m.Nielsen scored about 10-12 pts more,making $550,000.
Lombardi-ufa in 2013,3rd liner making $3.5m.scored 18 pts.
Armstrong-ufa in 2013,making $3m.Scored 3 pts
Komosarek-3rd pairing defenseman,making $4.5m
D'Amigo-isles have a bunch of prospects.No interest in D'Amigo or that 2nd


Oh, does Toronto have players who should embarrassed by their production.
I mainly agree, but don't forget once again that Connoly missed several games like he always does so the Nielsen comparison is unrealistic. I wouldn't take Connoly just because of his Lafontainess... but a bad comparison with Nielsen nonetheless

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I mainly agree, but don't forget once again that Connoly missed several games like he always does so the Nielsen comparison is unrealistic. I wouldn't take Connoly just because of his Lafontainess... but a bad comparison with Nielsen nonetheless
What is unrealistic about comparing Connolly's production and salary ,with Frans production and salary?

Connolly was their #1 center,playing alongside Kessel.The fact that the isles 2nd line center outscored him by 10-12 pts,while making about 1/9th of Connolly's salary,is funny imo.

Connolly's disappointing production and injuries are nothing new .

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04-19-2012, 10:13 AM
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I've Been thinking about Petrov and his future contract if he indeed come across the pond this summer. He will have to sign a ELC which is a very structured Salary and Bonus levels. I would assume he would get max guarenteed salary of 900,000. After that is the bonus money. The bonus' are the question.

Tavares got $2,850,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $3,750,000
Nino got $1,925,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $2,795,000
Nelson got $1,925,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $2,825,000
Strome got $850,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $1,775,000 (925,000 Base Salary)
Kabonov got no bonus' for a Cap Hit of $900,000

Will Petrov be paid like Tavares, Nino and Nelson? Or like Strome, Kabanov, DeHaan or Nilsson?

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I've Been thinking about Petrov and his future contract if he indeed come across the pond this summer. He will have to sign a ELC which is a very structured Salary and Bonus levels. I would assume he would get max guarenteed salary of 900,000. After that is the bonus money. The bonus' are the question.

Tavares got $2,850,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $3,750,000
Nino got $1,925,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $2,795,000
Nelson got $1,925,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $2,825,000
Strome got $850,000 in bonus' for a Cap Hit of $1,775,000 (925,000 Base Salary)
Kabonov got no bonus' for a Cap Hit of $900,000

Will Petrov be paid like Tavares, Nino and Nelson? Or like Strome, Kabanov, DeHaan or Nilsson?
guessing between what Strome and Kabanov got. maybe no bonus, in lieu of a one-way contract? not saying that he's earned a one-way, but it might take some concession on Garth's part, to get him over here...

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guessing between what Strome and Kabanov got. maybe no bonus, in lieu of a one-way contract? not saying that he's earned a one-way, but it might take some concession on Garth's part, to get him over here...
The current CBA has made the first contract a prospect recives from the team to be a standard ELC, that wont change. Its a two way, waiver exempt contract in which players make up to a max 900,000 in the NHL. I'm not sure what the standard pay for the AHL is. Teams can then put incentive bonus' into the contract to bring up the value of the deal.

IMO I think Petrov will get a contract between what Tavares made in his ELC and Nelson's. Just Like with Nelson they have to entice him to stay. I also think his High Cap hit is what will allow Snow to put Nino in the AHL to let him develope more. Hence is why I think Petrov with get a "Snowball's Promise" that he will be on the opening day roster.

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What is unrealistic about comparing Connolly's production and salary ,with Frans production and salary?

Connolly was their #1 center,playing alongside Kessel.The fact that the isles 2nd line center outscored him by 10-12 pts,while making about 1/9th of Connolly's salary,is funny imo.

Connolly's disappointing production and injuries are nothing new .
Tyler Bozak was Kessel's center for all but a few games. Connolly spent nearly the entire season on the 3rd and 4th lines.

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Tyler Bozak was Kessel's center for all but a few games. Connolly spent nearly the entire season on the 3rd and 4th lines.
Demoted to the 3rd/4th line while making $4.75m.

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Moulson-Tavares-Strome
Bailey-Nielsen-Okposo
Ullstrom-XXX-Parenteau
Martin-Cizikas-XXX

Streit-XXX
AMac-Hamonic
XXX-Reese

Nabokov
Poulin/Montoya/Nilsson

Overpay Stoll, Sarich, 4th line plug. Let Donovan, DeHaan, Ness fight for last defensive spot. Sign 7th D and 13th forward.
I don't know how interested in Stoll they will be,but I would not be surprised to see Snow sign Sarich and have Petrov on next season's NYI roster.

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make this team a play off team next season through free agency

moulson - tavares -
bailey - - okposo
grabner - nielsen -
martin - reasoner -

hamonic - macdonald
streit -
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nabby
DP

prospects
nino, ullstrom, cizikas, strome, haley, dehaan, donavan, ness, nelson, poulin, Nillson

so far these are the players that are locked up for next season



my proposal
resign Jurcina (#7 dman) effective when he doesn't get too much ice time
resign PaP (top 9 RW) letting him go would be a huge step backwards
sign Chris Kelly (2nd/3rd line center) great leadership, stop gap for the centers in b port and juniors
sign Gilroy (#6 dman) adds speed, size and skill to our blue line
sign Wideman (#4 dman) adds skill and offense from our blue line
sign Kuba (#5 dman) adds size to our blue line
sign Jagr (top 9 RW) offers tons of options for line combinations during scoring slumps, good leader ship
sign Knuble (4th line right wing) leadership, size and grit for the 4th line


so the isles roster would look like this

Moulson -Tavares-Jagr/PaP/Okposo
Bailey-Nielsen/Kelly-Jagr/PaP/Okposo
Grabner - Nielsen/Kelly - Jagr/PaP/Okposo
Martin - Reasoner - Knuble
Haley

Hamonic - Macdonald
Streit - Wideman
Kuba - Gilroy
Jurcina

Nabby
Poulin

is this a playoff team, what do you think garth should do other than sign suter or parise, and what is wrong with my proposals?

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moulson - tavares - Pap
bailey -nielsen - okposo
grabner -Lombardi -Martin
Ullstrom- Haley - Campbell

hamonic - macdonald
streit - Garrison
Jackman-Sarich

nabby
DP

Resign Pap 4 years 16M....Hopefully or less
Trade Reasoner to Toronto for Matthew Lombardi
resign Haley
Use Ullstrom on the 4th line
Sign Greg Campbell
D
Sign Jason Garrison 5years 25million
Sign Barrett Jackman 3 years 13 Million
Sign Cory Sarich 3 years 11million
sign Stu Bickell ,Dylan Reese or John Scott as 7th Dman

Let all the kids on D marinate with more time in the AHL. Also let all the forwards stay in the AHL and use them as call ups. Teams like Detroit and the Devils seem to do things right and let there kids spend a little extra time in the minors, they all need to develop man strength......

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Moulson - Tavares - Niederrieter
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Grabner - Ullstrom - Petrov
Martin - Reasoner - Bernier

Hamonic - Macdonald
Streit - Murray
Jackman - de Haan

Nabby
DP



Sign:
Matt Martin - 3 years, $1,000,000 per year
Steve Bernier - 1 year, $1,000,000 per year
Barret Jackman - 2/3 years, $2,450,000 per year (3rd year player option
Kirill Petrov - 3 years, $1,120,000 per year


Trade:

To
Douglas Murray

To
NYI 2013 2nd
NYI 2012 5th
Andrey Pedan


This isn't a playoff team, but I tried to make it as realistic as possible

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It's hard to forecast this, as a lot of guys like Jagr, Wideman, Barrett Jackman and their likes will likely stay place. The type of players that will sign here would be guys that are more likely coming from non-winning situations, of course in my model down below I am guilty of the same thing assuming we could sign Tootoo and Carle.

Sign PAP 4 years 18 mil
Resign Reese

Sign Jokinen 3 years 15 mil
Sign Tootoo 4 years 12 mil
Sign Carle 4 years 20 mil

We just spent more money than we spent in the past 10 years, but... it is a fantasy perspective.

I still fire Capuano and hire Craig MacTavish and let him bring in his own guy.

Moulson/JT/PAP
Bailey/Jokinen/Okposo
Grabner/Nielsen/Tootoo
Ullstrom/Reasoner/Martin

Hamonic/Carle
Streit/MacDonald
Reese/De Haan

Nabokov
DP

I don't want this team to bring in washed up veterans any more, I would rather see De Haan in a bottom pairing than Staios, Jurcina, Eaton etc....

Carle gives us an offensive defensemen. Moves the puck and might help secondary scoring as well.

Tootoo gives us an agitator. He could be the self esteem for Nielsen and Grabner to do their things

Jokinen gives us size up the middle and the ability to move Nielsen to the 3rd line.

This team would make the playoffs and maybe win a round.

Honestly if Capuano doesn't coach this team, we make the playoffs this year. Gordon would have had this team in the playoffs.

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Moulson - Tavares - Niederrieter
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Grabner - Ullstrom - Petrov
Martin - Reasoner - Bernier

Hamonic - Macdonald
Streit - Murray
Jackman - de Haan

Nabby
DP




Sign:
Matt Martin - 3 years, $1,000,000 per year
Steve Bernier - 1 year, $1,000,000 per year
Barret Jackman - 2/3 years, $2,450,000 per year (3rd year player option
Kirill Petrov - 3 years, $1,120,000 per year


Trade:

To
Douglas Murray

To
NYI 2013 2nd
NYI 2012 5th
Andrey Pedan


This isn't a playoff team, but I tried to make it as realistic as possible
Interesting you picked Douglas Murray, he loves Long Island, know a few of his friends from his days at Portledge High School. He probably is a player that would want to come here.

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Chicago fans are saying they doubt Oduya is signed to an extension,after a disappointing postseason from him.

His rep's saying Oduya's a top 4 defenseman.I am guessing that opinion is being put out there, for any team looking to $ign him this summer.

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If they bring back Suter and Weber we should make a hard push for Kevin Klein, the guy has played great this postseason and is just the right defenseman to pair with Streit. I know he is important to their team but they have a lot of defenseman.

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Moulson - Tavares - Niederrieter
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Grabner - Ullstrom - Petrov
Martin - Reasoner - Bernier

Hamonic - Macdonald
Streit - Murray
Jackman - de Haan

Nabby
DP



Sign:
Matt Martin - 3 years, $1,000,000 per year
Steve Bernier - 1 year, $1,000,000 per year
Barret Jackman - 2/3 years, $2,450,000 per year (3rd year player option
Kirill Petrov - 3 years, $1,120,000 per year


Trade:

To
Douglas Murray

To
NYI 2013 2nd
NYI 2012 5th
Andrey Pedan


This isn't a playoff team, but I tried to make it as realistic as possible
Would love Douglas Murray here as I fully believe he would re-sign here if we acquired him, but I would not give up a prospect like Pedan for him.

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