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04-17-2012, 10:02 PM
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In most of the videos this season whether there was a injury on the play was pointed out. It is hardly news.

This year they have blown the call on Lucic and the BOGs meeting changed how fighting goalie interference would be called in the future. They reacted correctly.
Weber not getting suspended for a game or two was a bad call. Maybe they decided that it only looked really ugly because it was done from the back of the head instead of the side of the head where it happens fairly frequently. Looked bad to me though.

Shanahan may have said what he did about changing the suspension lengths in order to reduce teams exaggerating injuries until the suspension is handed out. If teams know this isn't going to work it may reduce diving and embellishment.
IMO it's not just this year, it's been going on for a LONG time. I'm talking over a decade or more. We see a guy get destroyed, elbowed, slashed, etc, and the talking heads on TSN say something like, "well, there was no injury on the play so there won't be a suspension."

The NHL has been tying the length of the suspension to the injury for a long time. IMO, that has put them in a bad position, because without severe injuries we won't get harsh enough penalties to reduce the incidents.

So they've created a terrible situation through their own stupidity. They want to reduce the injuries and the stupid head shots, elbows, etc, but by tying suspensions to injuries, they can't dole out enough punishment to make guys stop UNTIL someone gets majorly injured.

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04-17-2012, 10:04 PM
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A no goal in Detroit called on the Preds and Hossa carried off on a stretcher in the Blackhawk game. Are the playoffs always like this? I mean the hitting and suspensions?
This year has been a lot nastier than most IMO. It's not a new thing to have very heated rivalries (Wings / Avs), but the overall nastiness in almost every series seems a lot more prevalent that usual.

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04-17-2012, 10:14 PM
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Hawks fans are MAD, and rightfully so. Raffi is a *********, even going back to his Coiler days. Piece of **** he is.

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04-17-2012, 10:21 PM
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IMO it's not just this year, it's been going on for a LONG time. I'm talking over a decade or more. We see a guy get destroyed, elbowed, slashed, etc, and the talking heads on TSN say something like, "well, there was no injury on the play so there won't be a suspension."

The NHL has been tying the length of the suspension to the injury for a long time. IMO, that has put them in a bad position, because without severe injuries we won't get harsh enough penalties to reduce the incidents.

So they've created a terrible situation through their own stupidity. They want to reduce the injuries and the stupid head shots, elbows, etc, but by tying suspensions to injuries, they can't dole out enough punishment to make guys stop UNTIL someone gets majorly injured.
Shanahan tried laying out long suspensions at the start of the season and he got his wrists slapped and fans were up in arms about how long they were.

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04-17-2012, 10:22 PM
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I love hockey. It is the greatest sport. NHL playoffs are the greatest thing since bread in a can.

But I'm not enjoying the playoffs this year. Sure I'm happy that Pens are down 3 games and the Canucks the same, but all in all I'm not having fun.

And hockey should be fun.

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04-17-2012, 10:33 PM
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I love hockey. It is the greatest sport. NHL playoffs are the greatest thing since bread in a can.

But I'm not enjoying the playoffs this year. Sure I'm happy that Pens are down 3 games and the Canucks the same, but all in all I'm not having fun.

And hockey should be fun.
There should be a Tennis game on TV one of these days..

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04-17-2012, 10:36 PM
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There should be a Tennis game on TV one of these days..
Hey! I watch tennis. Don't knock it.


Well.... ladies tennis.

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04-17-2012, 10:42 PM
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Almost a Crawford vs Smith good ol' fashioned goalie blowout..........but nothing.

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04-17-2012, 10:42 PM
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There should be a Tennis game on TV one of these days..
I'll just assume this is sarcasm because tennis freaking owns.

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04-17-2012, 10:44 PM
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I'll just assume this is sarcasm because tennis freaking owns.
Guess you are missing the Coach's Corner reference from the weekend.

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Almost a Crawford vs Smith good ol' fashioned goalie blowout..........but nothing.
Would have loved it.

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04-17-2012, 10:50 PM
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Guess you are missing the Coach's Corner reference from the weekend.
I seriously did miss Coach's Corner. Now I have to look this up! I'm sure it's glorious.

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04-17-2012, 10:58 PM
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I don't see why Raffi Torres is not on Shanahan's hit list. The guy is a Predatory hitter. He hits guys that are defenseless, or not expecting it.

As much as it helped the Oilers in 06, his hits on Justin (Jason?) Williams and Marcel Goc were hits to injure and upon unsuspecting victims. His hit on Seabrook last year, and the hit he made on Hossa is absolute and total garbage.

Hossa went to the hospital. Torres is going to kill someone.

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04-17-2012, 10:59 PM
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Teams watched how and why Boston Bruins won last year and it's a copy cat league.....and teams watched Vancouver fold late and nobody wants to back down like that this year. Remember a few years back when there would be close to zero fighting in the playoffs

I don't like the head shots but I get that people are trying to assert their dominance...........pretty crazy

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04-17-2012, 11:12 PM
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I'm having a blast watching playoffs. I'm loving the hate between the teams. The pitts-Phil game was a bit ridiculous, but still entertaining.

I respect how the Quinville (spelling?) has kept his team from turning into goofs, ala Penguins. Though that might change if the score goes one sided.

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04-17-2012, 11:13 PM
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I don't see why Raffi Torres is not on Shanahan's hit list. The guy is a Predatory hitter. He hits guys that are defenseless, or not expecting it.

As much as it helped the Oilers in 06, his hits on Justin (Jason?) Williams and Marcel Goc were hits to injure and upon unsuspecting victims. His hit on Seabrook last year, and the hit he made on Hossa is absolute and total garbage.

Hossa went to the hospital. Torres is going to kill someone.
I didn't like that hit At all and would like to see Torres picking up teeth off the ice.

That said, a lot of people that had very long, very successful, careers stayed in the league.




EDIT: I think I am coming off as pro-violence. I'm not. I'm just pointing out that this sort of thing isn't new and it isn't a new epidemic. I hate head shots.
I'll take seeing a Asham cross check over a hit the head every time. Of the two infractions during that sequence, Schenn's was much more dangerous.


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04-18-2012, 12:08 AM
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Would love it if the Hawks ever won a game in regulation.

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04-18-2012, 12:10 AM
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**** it. **** the Coyotes

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04-18-2012, 12:13 AM
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**** it. **** the Coyotes
That win was highway robbery.

Coyotes played hard though. Gotta give them that.

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04-18-2012, 12:15 AM
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total BS. I ******* hate the Coyotes. What a joke of a team.

Doesn't matter. enjoy Quebec next year.

Hope Torres gets 5 games for that hit.

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04-18-2012, 12:15 AM
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**** it. **** the Coyotes
Depressing, isn't it? They will get theirs in the end, don't worry.

But in the mean time, it's far from over.

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04-18-2012, 06:50 AM
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the ****ing coyotes won?
**** off
torres shoudl be gone for the rest of the playoffs anyways

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04-18-2012, 07:33 AM
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I sense Torres will be a tipping point.

With his track record and the optics of a star player being stretchered off. I would expect the largest suspension of the playoffs it's just a matter of how big? It will be a minimum of 4 but could we see a balance of the playoffs in this one?

The hit was no worse than a few of the others but how many guys do you get to knock out of series or put on IR before you get sentenced to a serious suspension?

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04-18-2012, 08:50 AM
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**** Phoenix.

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04-18-2012, 08:56 AM
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Great lineup of games tonight, work can't end soon enough.

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