I was at the mts centre for the draft and was delighted that SC fell to us at the 7 slot...... i searched the top picks that jets would most likely get....... I was hopping for strome but he went NYL 5th overall i then said we would pick either SC or hamilton both no brainers...... i heard earlier that Ottawa liked Z and hoped they would go that way because i did not want the jets 2.0 first draft pick to be a Swede...... Ottawa picked Z and I said Fantastic we get to choose if we want SC a centre or Hamilton for our defence......... crowd went crazy Q the Winnipeg jets anouncement.....we announce Sciefele........................ i said who .......PUCK we did it again we just drafted Jimmy Mann again..........i calmed down and said to my girlfriend well see......some guy on the jets management scouting team just put his ass on the line and Ill be patient to see if he is a smarter than the average bear or a DUMB PUCK [mod]......... As i see it now Schiefele is rated very similer to Strome and Ottawas Big Z drafted 5th and 6th........only thing that botherede me is SC and Hamilton the ones I wanted went next 8th and 9 th by steller organizations......... we will see
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Yea no matter what happens with Couturier this is really going to be up to Mark. If he becomes our #1 centre and can bang out 65 plus points a year in his prime the pick will have been dandy and I for one will have no regrets.
This is not zero sum game........both lads can work out really well for each club and or both can fall short of expectations. It's not an either or proposition.
As long as posters are saying "their preference was (is) Couturier" then I am very cool with that. He seems like he "might" put up decent points one day and he can sure play defense........to say Mark was a mistake or even a reach is premature and disrespectful to the Thrashers-Jets scouting staff. Does anyone know how Couturier's interview went with the Jets (or if he even granted them one)?? Do the TSN experts know how Sean's interview went with the Jets (Isles, Sens)?? Lots of factors in play here people.
Funny when Mark was leading the NHL in scoring in the preseason his critics were pretty silent.
I am guessing all Jets fans are hoping for Mark..........guys like me are hoping I am right..........guys that love Couturier are hoping they are wrong about Mark
As a Barrie Colts fan I'll say I have no doubt Sheifele will become a good NHL player. He may have been a bit of a reach, but a bust he is not. Having Telegin is like another early 1st rounder. When he comes out to play he is electrifying.
As a Flyers fan I'm very happy Couturier fell to us.
At that time the Jets group was drunk with power and were trying to instantly brand the team with an identity.
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You do realize that it was the Atlanta Thrashers scouting staff that made the recommendation that Chevy followed, no? If they were drunk with power, they'd have cleared out the scouting staff and ignored their analysis as well. IMHO, the scouts made a good choice.
You do realize that it was the Atlanta Thrashers scouting staff that made the recommendation that Chevy followed, no? If they were drunk with power, they'd have cleared out the scouting staff and ignored their analysis as well. IMHO, the scouts made a good choice.
I don't think there is anything wrong with Scheifele...I just don't think it was BPA...don't expect it to be BPA...
whatever the "staff" was "recommending"...it wasn't taking the best player on the table.
One think to remember is that he looked amazing during the pre-season. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come.
Playing against AHL scrubs, he really didn't impress anyone in the games he played in the regular season, in fact he was a step or two behind everyone.
Playing against AHL scrubs, he really didn't impress anyone in the games he played in the regular season, in fact he was a step or two behind everyone.
Your ability to belittle his play is impressive. Everyone in pre-season is playing the same level of competition, if it was easy to do what he did, every rookie would do it.
Not saying it will translate to a great career, but I don't think its worth totally dismissing an impressive pre-season.
Mark scored tonight with 8 seconds left to send the game to overtime. Ottawa won anyways though.
Enjoy the summer mr, Schiefele. You got a lot of skeptics to prove wrong next fall.
Hope he plays a bit with the IceCaps... He was used and abused a lot in that Ottawa series, but it still be a great development oppertunity. I like how he doesn't give up and fights for every point possible.
i heard earlier that Ottawa liked Z and hoped they would go that way because i did not want the jets 2.0 first draft pick to be a Swede......
Why?
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You do realize that it was the Atlanta Thrashers scouting staff that made the recommendation that Chevy followed, no? If they were drunk with power, they'd have cleared out the scouting staff and ignored their analysis as well. IMHO, the scouts made a good choice.
I think the biggest reason for that was because they had been watching all of the players all year and keeping most of the scouting staff intact was probably a much better idea then gutting it and bringing in new guys that might not have worked much together.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with Scheifele...I just don't think it was BPA...don't expect it to be BPA...
whatever the "staff" was "recommending"...it wasn't taking the best player on the table.
That's a very bold statement for someone that isn't on the scouting staff.
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One think to remember is that he looked amazing during the pre-season. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come.
Well there was a reason Schiefele looked much better in the pre-season then in the regular season. It's because the level of competition is completely different. You're not going to go up against top pairings every night and there will be times where you're playing against AHL level goaltending and defense or worst.
And Scheifele will go to St. John's same with Telegin, but I want him to spend one more year in the OHL, and with the World Juniors, and I have a huge feeling were taking Pearson in the 2nd or 3rd round.
But I think that either St. John's or Norfolk will win the Calder Cup, semis forsure.
And Scheifele will go to St. John's same with Telegin, but I want him to spend one more year in the OHL, and with the World Juniors, and I have a huge feeling were taking Pearson in the 2nd or 3rd round.
But I think that either St. John's or Norfolk will win the Calder Cup, semis forsure.
The IceCaps have been pretty underwhelming lately. I'm going to hold my horses on making them favorites to win the Calder Cup.
Posted this on another thread but I guess it makes more sense to post it here.
I hear people complain about guys that are perimeter players especially scores and stars. You know what is great about Mark is that no matter what happened this season and how bad he was abused he kept going to the dirty areas and not backing down. So many guys would have been forced out to the perimeter but Scheif was relentless while getting pounded....never quit, never gave up and kept going into the traffic areas to get results. I love those kind of guys and they tend to get allot of points.....willingness to pay the price is something that people talk about allot but the line up of skill guys that will actually do it is not long! sweet hands and courage is a lethal combination.
Regardless of where someone is on the pick, what's done is done. I hope that everyone, including the people who hated the pick can get behind Scheifele going forward. As Jets fans we should all now be pulling for Scheifele. It would be pretty childish for people who didn't like the pick to be rooting against Scheifele next year, just so they can post their "I told you so's" over and over again. (I'm not saying people are rooting against him now, just saying how crappy it would be for a "Jet Fan" to do it next year.)
Same thing for Enstrom. This forum has been all over what to do with him. If he resigns a long term deal, I hope that everyone, including the people that wanted him traded will hope that he breaks out of his 1 year funk and be an all-star next year.
Your ability to belittle his play is impressive. Everyone in pre-season is playing the same level of competition, if it was easy to do what he did, every rookie would do it.
Not saying it will translate to a great career, but I don't think its worth totally dismissing an impressive pre-season.
Precisely. Anyone who expected him to continue his scoring pace from the preseason to regular season was being a little unrealistic.
That being said, anyone simply dismissing his preseason play as worthless is also being quite unfair. He did fantastic against the same quality of competition as every other player in the preseason.
Yes, he did struggle through his first 7 games, but really, everyone on the jets team struggled through their first 7 games.
People seem to like to just ignore how very incapable our squad was through the first 2 months of the season and focus on Mark alone.
Either way I'm stoked to hear about how he's battled in the playoffs this season, and I'm really hoping he gets to take a trip to the A and help the caps with a deep run.
More than happy with Scheifele... he is a smart hockey player. He will be parked in front of opponents nets very soon.
How many goals did we miss this year because no one was there? Look forward to him suiting up full time for us. same with Telegin.
Yeah, we didnt pick Coutourier, move on. The sport is filled with what ifs.
Its hardly like a guy like Scheifele is going to make us terrible.
I think he is the right pick for us long term.
I wouldn't rule out Sheifele over Coutourier. Coutourier was an early bloomer. 27 points in 77 games. Ya I think Sheifele could do the same it's nothing special we just chose to have him develop a bit longer.
All good I can see Sheifele turning into a 50 point scorer or more.
Had a great 75 point season with the Barrie Colts this year and I'm looking forward to seeing him make the NHL push next season.
I know pre-season doesn't mean eff-all but he was 2nd in the NHL for points and I think that shows something.
Coutourier is nothing special he's just having a great post-season because his team made the playoffs and is participating in 8 goal scoring games.
I wouldn't rule out Sheifele over Coutourier. Coutourier was an early bloomer. 27 points in 77 games. Ya I think Sheifele could do the same it's nothing special we just chose to have him develop a bit longer.
All good I can see Sheifele turning into a 50 point scorer or more.
Had a great 75 point season with the Barrie Colts this year and I'm looking forward to seeing him make the NHL push next season.
I know pre-season doesn't mean eff-all but he was 2nd in the NHL for points and I think that shows something.
Coutourier is nothing special he's just having a great post-season because his team made the playoffs and is participating in 8 goal scoring games.
Sheifele is the better pick in my opinion.
Lol you cant compare the two until they are both in the NHL
It comes down to speculation and nit picking....here is my take
Couts is a 19year old playing against fully developed men and superstars. Schief is playing against boys still.
Schief had a 75 point season.......Couts had two out of three seasons in the Q with 96 points each.........
Couts played third line minutes a majority of the season and in a shut down defence role which limited his point production as that was not his assignment (or so it seems?)
So IMO Couts is the better pick but Schief does show promise and I hope he and Tele can light it up in a for us in few years
