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04-16-2012, 01:04 PM
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I watched first game, and they lost deservedly. Austria was ****, but Ukraine even more so. Realistically they will fight for survival against Japan.
So sad

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Sad, considering the last 2 years they fought down to the wire to get promoted....*sigh*

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Wow sad

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So how many teams are relegated from D-1A?


I don't fully comprehend the current format?


Ukraine plays Great Britain tomorrow. Neither team have done well so far.


Ukraine 4-5 Austria
Ukraine 1-3 Hungary

UK 2-3 Slovenia
UK 3-7 Austria



Based on these very small samples one would have to hope that Ukraine would pull off a victory here.

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So how many teams are relegated from D-1A?


I don't fully comprehend the current format?


Ukraine plays Great Britain tomorrow. Neither team have done well so far.


Ukraine 4-5 Austria
Ukraine 1-3 Hungary

UK 2-3 Slovenia
UK 3-7 Austria



Based on these very small samples one would have to hope that Ukraine would pull off a victory here.
Only one team gets relegated.

I can predict that GB will convincingly outshoot the Ukraine, but the game itself will be a close one. GB is a younger and faster team, so Ukraine will have to rely on experience and more skill based game. I think GB will win this one.

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Only one team gets relegated.

I can predict that GB will convincingly outshoot the Ukraine, but the game itself will be a close one. GB is a younger and faster team, so Ukraine will have to rely on experience and more skill based game. I think GB will win this one.
I was really wrong about the shots, but sadly not about the eventual outcome.

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this is ridiculous, and a huge obstacle to overcome attempting to rebuild Ukraine's hockey program.

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this is ridiculous, and a huge obstacle to overcome attempting to rebuild Ukraine's hockey program.
Nothing ridiculous about this outcome, Ukrainian hockey has been slowly creeping towards these results for 20 years. Though it will be a "huge obstacle" only if Ukraine really manages to get themselves relegated, because getting promoted next year will be even bigger ask. Not to mention bad rep this tournament will attach to Ukrainian hockey. There's nothing going on in Ukrainian hockey that could capture the imagination of Ukrainian kids lately. Football and basketball championships will only push hockey even closer to oblivion in coming years.

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Well at least we can comfort ourselves that the best players aren't there.

OH wait, that doesn't matter.

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Hard to blame Ukraine for being the oldest team in the tourney by a longshot, when all the three debutants haven't done anything useful too. This team really needs Varlamov, Andrushenko and Yegorov, maybe Gongalsky could provide some spark as well.

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Operation relegation: Successful.

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Well the hockey team is just following the general societal trend.

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Next year´s Div IB most likely final: Ukraine - Poland.....I guess you can see that tehy are truly Slovakia´s neighbours, even they are failing more and more at hockey with every year....

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On the plus side...it can only get better from here

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On the plus side...it can only get better from here
Woah there. That's just asking for it at this point.

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we have a league and a KHL team and possibly a major junior team in the near future...there's no way that our development and production of players continues to deteriorate as bad as it has....it can only get better, we don't belong with the likes of Poland and company

we'll get back up to div A...in a few years maybe

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we have a league and a KHL team and possibly a major junior team in the near future...there's no way that our development and production of players continues to deteriorate as bad as it has....it can only get better, we don't belong with the likes of Poland and company

we'll get back up to div A...in a few years maybe
I dig the positive vibes.

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we have a league and a KHL team and possibly a major junior team in the near future...there's no way that our development and production of players continues to deteriorate as bad as it has....it can only get better, we don't belong with the likes of Poland and company

we'll get back up to div A...in a few years maybe
Yeah you got to hope this is the 'rock bottom' momment for Ukraine. There are some positivies right now, but one club isn't going to turn everything around.

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we have a league and a KHL team and possibly a major junior team in the near future...there's no way that our development and production of players continues to deteriorate as bad as it has....it can only get better, we don't belong with the likes of Poland and company

we'll get back up to div A...in a few years maybe
IA or Elite?

There are some promising kids in the pipeline but looks like the real revival will start after birthyear of 1998 will be breaking through.

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Yeah you got to hope this is the 'rock bottom' momment for Ukraine. There are some positivies right now, but one club isn't going to turn everything around.
it's not like i'm saying things will just skyrocket back up from here, but the bleeding will stop...I would hope/expect

i mean, come on, japan and england are ahead of us - really?! we continue to produce NHL and KHL level talent, if we can retain some we shouldn't even be having this discussion


JAPAN AND BRITAIN. UGH.

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This thread has died a bit, but I'll take a moment and say that this year's Ukraine NT could look particularly ****. The promotion won't be and easy task, those Lithuanians look scary now.

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