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04-19-2012, 09:15 AM
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Goaltenders this series

OK, so the Ottawa fans want to say that Lundquist is "stealing" games, and this is true. In the playoffs, great goaltending wins games. But, one goaltender has been playing like this ALL year (Lundquist), and one is playing WAY over their (statistical) head.

So, enough whining Ottawa, if your goaltender plays closer to how he had played all year long, you're already out.

Three game series now, buckle your seatbelts.

BTW, love the complaints about Staal's "dirty hit", but complete blindness to the high stick. One is open to interpretation, but the high stick offered VISIBLE PROOF, also known as blood.

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04-19-2012, 09:21 AM
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Difference between the goaltenders is one is a Vezina candidate year after year and the other is a career backup.

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I for one do not like the term "stealing games" just because he is the goalie

No one says it when say Malkin scores 2 goals and has 2 assists that Malkin "stole the game". These guys are on the team, and MVP caliber players, it's not stealing anything.

That being said, Henrik has been playing great, as well as Anderson

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04-19-2012, 09:33 AM
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I for one do not like the term "stealing games" just because he is the goalie

No one says it when say Malkin scores 2 goals and has 2 assists that Malkin "stole the game". These guys are on the team, and MVP caliber players, it's not stealing anything.

That being said, Henrik has been playing great, as well as Anderson
Completely agree, that's why I put it in quotes. You're best players, when playing their best should steal games; what position they play is just a detail.

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One makes $6+ million, 1-7 in OT playoffs, and never gets criticized (and imo overrated).

The Other makes less than a third of that and has played as well (if not better) in this series.

And btw, Tim Thomas was once deemed a career backup too.

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04-19-2012, 09:53 AM
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Difference between the goaltenders is one is a Vezina candidate year after year and the other is a career backup.
The other difference is one can't win in OT.

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Amen..swede cheese

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There's no way Anderson is playing as well as Lundqvist. Maybe in games 2-4, but game 1 tilts the favor towards Anderson. Also Lundqvist is facing the #4 offense in the league. Anderson is not.

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Anderson's numbers this season were hurt somewhat because he played behind a run-and-gun team that suffered from a lot of defensive breakdowns and tended to allow a lot of high-percentage scoring chances. He's actually had a pretty good season. A lot of decent goaltenders would have struggled with the workload he has had.

Lundqvist is a sensational goaltender but the Rangers generally do a pretty good job limiting their opponents to low-percentage chances. It's a good strategy because it means the team works like a well-oiled machine at its best, but it does run the risk of having the team fall back on their heels to protect a lead and invite trouble from aggressive opponents.

Overall I'd never say Anderson is as good as Lundqvist but I do think he has been his equal in this series for the most part. If he were not matching Lundqvist's performance, Ottawa wouldn't be able to win games by scoring only 3 goals, because that was rarely their MO this season. They are playing about as well as they can defensively but are still more prone to breakdowns in their own zone than the Rangers.

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OK, so the Ottawa fans want to say that Lundquist is "stealing" games, and this is true. In the playoffs, great goaltending wins games. But, one goaltender has been playing like this ALL year (Lundquist), and one is playing WAY over their (statistical) head.

So, enough whining Ottawa, if your goaltender plays closer to how he had played all year long, you're already out.

Three game series now, buckle your seatbelts.

BTW, love the complaints about Staal's "dirty hit", but complete blindness to the high stick. One is open to interpretation, but the high stick offered VISIBLE PROOF, also known as blood.
Anderson "stole" yesterday's game. Lundqvist can't make an OT save.

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04-19-2012, 11:01 AM
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OK, so the Ottawa fans want to say that Lundquist is "stealing" games, and this is true. In the playoffs, great goaltending wins games. But, one goaltender has been playing like this ALL year (Lundquist), and one is playing WAY over their (statistical) head.

So, enough whining Ottawa, if your goaltender plays closer to how he had played all year long, you're already out.

Three game series now, buckle your seatbelts.

BTW, love the complaints about Staal's "dirty hit", but complete blindness to the high stick. One is open to interpretation, but the high stick offered VISIBLE PROOF, also known as blood.
The only reason Lundqvist has to out play Anderson is because this team as decided to underperform against an otherwise very mediocre opponent.

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Anderson has been awesome pretty much all series. He's made some unreal saves (on Staal, Fedotenko, Prust, Dubinsky, etc). Lundqvist, as good as he's been at times, simply cannot come up with that big save in OT. 1-7? Are you kidding me?

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Haven't seen many "WOW" saves from Anderson this series. He's been solid, but not spectacular.

Rangers need more shots. End of story.

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Haven't seen many "WOW" saves from Anderson this series. He's been solid, but not spectacular.

Rangers need more shots. End of story.

Game 2. Robbing Callahan who was alone in front for 10 seconds.

Game 3. Boyle on breakaway.

Game 3. Callahan on breakaway.

Game 4. Staal on re-direct right before Ottawa scores.

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Haven't seen many "WOW" saves from Anderson this series. He's been solid, but not spectacular.

Rangers need more shots. End of story.
Take your homer goggles off.

Anderson has been nothing short of amazing this series.

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04-19-2012, 12:05 PM
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I hate when anyone tries to discredit success due to goaltender play

first and formost, the goaltender is part of the team

secondly, no team will go ANYWHERE in the playoffs without their goaltender playing lights out. I dont care how good or bad a team is constructed, if the goalie can't stand on his head and make a minimum of 2 or 3 ridiculous saves a game then the team is toast

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Lundqvist: Worst Playoff OT goalie in history?

1-7 in OT in the playoffs. 3 of last 5 playoff OT goals top shelf over glove. 2 OT goals in 3 OT shots this year. You are remembered for what you do in the playoffs. If Lundqvist wants to be thought of as one of the best, he needs to step up in the playoffs and especially in OT. Think Patrick Roy, Hasek. Even Tim Thomas last year (most saves in a playoff) and Kelly Hrudey (73 saves in 1 playoff game!) These guys played their best when it mattered most.

As good as he has been during the regular season, he needs to step it up another notch.

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They didn,t lose game 2 or game 4 because of Lundqvist

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haha this is crazy, for all the flack he gets i personally think he's been great in the playoffs throughout his career. In the series vs the caps he kept us in games he was getting peppered every game.

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1-7 in OT in the playoffs. 3 of last 5 playoff OT goals top shelf over glove. 2 OT goals in 3 OT shots this year. You are remembered for what you do in the playoffs. If Lundqvist wants to be thought of as one of the best, he needs to step up in the playoffs and especially in OT. Think Patrick Roy, Hasek. Even Tim Thomas last year (most saves in a playoff) and Kelly Hrudey (73 saves in 1 playoff game!) These guys played their best when it mattered most.

As good as he has been during the regular season, he needs to step it up another notch.
Let's wait and see how Hank and the Rangers do after the end of this year's playoffs before labeling Hank like this

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OK, so the Ottawa fans want to say that Lundquist is "stealing" games, and this is true. In the playoffs, great goaltending wins games. But, one goaltender has been playing like this ALL year (Lundquist), and one is playing WAY over their (statistical) head.

So, enough whining Ottawa, if your goaltender plays closer to how he had played all year long, you're already out.

Three game series now, buckle your seatbelts.

BTW, love the complaints about Staal's "dirty hit", but complete blindness to the high stick. One is open to interpretation, but the high stick offered VISIBLE PROOF, also known as blood.
They have both been excellent, both would probably want a goal or two back. Hank has been Hank, Andy has been Andy. It is a 2-2 series. I don't know why you create a thread to criticize what Ottawa fans say. The funny thing is you think you are preaching to the choir but Ranger fans are pretty knowledgeable and I appreciate that they are able to give credit wher credit is due.

The reality is we are the 8th seed and we are going 6 for sure. Many have their opinions as to who is out playing who and I don't want to be accused of trolling...but we are the 8th seed and if the series is tied up, all stats are going to be close.

Staal caught him in a prone position. It happens, I didn't think it was egregious but he did drive his arm upward but in the context of the game I didn't like it considering the pathetic calls on Smith in the 1st which resulted in a goal and that joke of a call on Prust for boarding. Just horrible officiating all around.

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1-7 in OT in the playoffs. 3 of last 5 playoff OT goals top shelf over glove. 2 OT goals in 3 OT shots this year. You are remembered for what you do in the playoffs. If Lundqvist wants to be thought of as one of the best, he needs to step up in the playoffs and especially in OT. Think Patrick Roy, Hasek. Even Tim Thomas last year (most saves in a playoff) and Kelly Hrudey (73 saves in 1 playoff game!) These guys played their best when it mattered most.

As good as he has been during the regular season, he needs to step it up another notch.
Im not going to disagree with you, but I will say, we should wait until the playoffs are actually over like the above said, before judging him. I mean, it's not like it was a softy he let in there. That shot by Turris was an insane snipe. Im not really sure what goalies would have even made that save, while be screened also basically by your own player.

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Well, in most of those OT-games the rangers have sucked in the third and later. They usually had the lead and then let the play degrade. Just like yesterdays game. As soon as ottawa scored their second I knew it was over. Rangers got lazy and afraid to take responsibility. Nobody is wanting the puck offensively. Everybody is just passing to someone else and often the receiver is in a worse position.

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Difference between the goaltenders is one is a Vezina candidate year after year and the other is a career backup.
Anderson isn't a career backup.

Some of you guys really need to watch more hockey if you think Anderson is a scrub. Do you not remember 09-10 and his run with the Avs? I swear half of the posters here are cliche "I only watch East teams" hockey fans.

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