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04-19-2012, 05:33 PM
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Was the biggest mistake this year trading both Wolski and EC?

Hear me out on this.

Kreider played all of what 3 1/2 minutes last night? He is inexperienced at the NHL level and although you can see flashes of him being comfortable he is still learning to adapt to the NHL style of play in a very rough series.

Depth is one of the reasons many teams are able to be successful over the course of a season and throughout the playoffs as well.

Would it not have served the Rangers much better to have at least 1 of EC or Wolski for this playoff run? Can we really say a 3rd or 7th round pick will be the difference in our future? Having one of those two in last night would have been huge for this team. Both have playoff experience, both were with the Rangers for more then 1 year and know the system, and despite their inconsistencies both players have shown that they can absolutely put the puck in the net.

IMO this was a mistake by Sather to trade both players. Granted hindsight is 20/20 but if the Rangers were that serious about making a cup run I don't see how it could have been bad to keep at least one of them. Can any one here make the argument that either of them wouldn't have helped the team over the past two games?

Edit* Also having one of those two players as a depth player could have allowed the Rangers to not burn a year off Kreiders ELC.

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Wolski didn't fit here. It would be nice to have him right now, but chances are he wouldn't have played for months, so what's the point?

Losing Zucarello hurt. The biggest mistake was not replacing forward depth at the deadline, and sitting on Woywitka, Eminger and Scott as the extra bodies for the playoffs.

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The trade deadline was the mistake. It's hard to call it a mistake though because really no one was available. Scott still remains a baffling mystery.

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I called for it on TD day, we needed a FO specialist. People here called me crazy. Tell that to Konopka and his 69% FO %.

Sather let his penis think for him and wasted so much time on Nash, we were left with Scott as a consolation prize.

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wow, people talking about this season like its over. can we wait till we're eliminated till we start talking about this stuff? last i checked we're still in the drivers seat in this series. other than pittsburgh you can make a case ottawa is our toughest matchup of the other 7 playoff teams. we match up better against either new jersey or philly, our likely 2nd round opponent. lets step off the ledge and not act like if eric freakin christensen was still here we'd have swept ottawa.

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I called for it on TD day, we needed a FO specialist. People here called me crazy. Tell that to Konopka and his 69% FO %.

Sather let his penis think for him and wasted so much time on Nash, we were left with Scott as a consolation prize.
I don't think anyone said it was crazy, I know I agreed 100%. Some of us, actually a large portion have been lamenting about FOs since the stretch and how it would come back to haunt us in the playoffs.

The problem was that no one was available for a reasonable price.

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I think Torts was in a tough spot with Wolski. He just wasn't going to trust a player on the ice that didn't play on both sides of the puck.

Unfortunately he regularly trusts players to be on the ice that can only play on one side of the puck when it's the defensive side.

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More depth would be nice, but Wolski and EC are not the types of depth players we need. Wolski was a healthy scratch for Florida the other night.

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I'd also say that the bigger problem was the trade deadline--perhaps Sather spent too much time focused on Nash, but it would have been prudent to take some of those lower picks, perhaps the ones we acquired in the Wolski and Christensen trades, and acquired some depth hockey players--not John Scott

I definitely would not have given up the 1st rounder it cost to get Gaustad, but an acquisition like Pahlsson couldn't have hurt.

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Was the biggest mistake this year trading both Wolski and EC?
NO...i didnt even read your reasoning,lol,cause the thread title is enough to avoid reading what u had to say.

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I thought Kreider has done just fine to say his future is bright is an understatement.

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The problem was we could have went after Neil , Carkner and Konopka long before the deadline that just passed and we did not do so but instead we signed Rupp and added Woywitka . These guys were available for very miminal dollars as FA's and a few of us on here really wanted both Carkner and Neil although Neil had us on a no trade list as he wanted nothing to do with NYC and the Rangers even back two years ago .

Wolski and EC were fodder and both soft and we have enough of them now...

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Wolski and EC being gone aren't the mistake. Not adding a guy like Gaustad was the mistake.

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Since my best friend is an isles fan, I've thought since last year we should have picked up Konopka. Solid bottom 6 guy, willing to drop the gloves, good on draws, and has no issue with making under a million...by all accounts would have fit well in our situation

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Both were invisible during the regular season, they would have been wearing invisibility cloaks in this series.

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It's hard to argue that trading two dead weights was a mistake at all, and much harder to argue that it was our biggest mistake.

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wow, people talking about this season like its over. can we wait till we're eliminated till we start talking about this stuff? last i checked we're still in the drivers seat in this series. other than pittsburgh you can make a case ottawa is our toughest matchup of the other 7 playoff teams. we match up better against either new jersey or philly, our likely 2nd round opponent. lets step off the ledge and not act like if eric freakin christensen was still here we'd have swept ottawa.
I am not speaking like its over. I am simply raising a question about a mistake I believe was made at the trade deadline.

I never said we would have swept Ottawa. Your making inferences that are so far from the truth its laughable.

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NO...i didnt even read your reasoning,lol,cause the thread title is enough to avoid reading what u had to say.
No wonder some on the main boards chastise rangers fans. Reading responses like this validate exactly their reasoning for all the things they say about us.

If not the biggest, one of the biggest?

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Wolski and EC being gone aren't the mistake. Not adding a guy like Gaustad was the mistake.

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You realize Gaustad was traded for a first round pick right? You were willing to part with a first rounder for a guy who scores 30-35 points on average?

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I'd also say that the bigger problem was the trade deadline--perhaps Sather spent too much time focused on Nash, but it would have been prudent to take some of those lower picks, perhaps the ones we acquired in the Wolski and Christensen trades, and acquired some depth hockey players--not John Scott

I definitely would not have given up the 1st rounder it cost to get Gaustad, but an acquisition like Pahlsson couldn't have hurt.
Right. I mean personally at this point I would rather see EC on the ice VS Ottawa then Kreider. Nothing against Kreider. I think he is going to be a fantastic player but there is alot on the line, he looks a little timid and it would be huge for Torts to have another player he knows he can trust out there.

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You realize Gaustad was traded for a first round pick right? You were willing to part with a first rounder for a guy who scores 30-35 points on average?
This is the biggest point of my post. With the high price of players at the trade deadline I think trading both of our depth players who hadn't played much was such a mistake. You need all the depth you can get in the playoffs.

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As far as Wolski goes, I think he never got a fair shot here. 22 points in 46 games with limited ice time. We trade away one of the few guys on our team with pure skill and continue to give John Mitchell ice time and play Prust 17 minutes a game. Yeah that's going to help us score goals.

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You realize Gaustad was traded for a first round pick right? You were willing to part with a first rounder for a guy who scores 30-35 points on average?
Exactly. I would love to get a guy like Gaustad but that trade was an absolute fleece job.

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Im pretty sure Wolski's 22 points in 46 games is more points then Mitchell has in his career.

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