Kreider is in the NHL at age 20. After winning two NCAA titles and a gold medal at the WJC.
IF you trade him it's for an established player (Bobby Ryan) not a LESS established player.
No.
Absolutely correct.
And from the other side, why would the Oilers or Jackets trade a 1st overall for an unestablished player like Kreider. 1st overall picks only get traded for established stars.
Gaborik, prospect not named Kreider, 1st for the 1st overall.
Getting Yakupov while shedding 7.5 mil to sign Parise/Suter = priceless.
And from the other side, why would the Oilers or Jackets trade a 1st overall for an unestablished player like Kreider. 1st overall picks only get traded for established stars.
Gaborik, prospect not named Kreider, 1st for the 1st overall.
Getting Yakupov while shedding 7.5 mil to sign Parise/Suter = priceless.
I'll add a little more. For once, the Rangers need a homegrown elite offensive talent.
A fast question NYR friends. I am an Oilerfan whos is really high on Chris Kreider.
The question is:
Would you trade him straight up for our 1st overall pick?
You wouldn't happen to have a n y connection to the Oilers GM would you? Even the slightest to where maybe you can convince him of this?
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"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"-Mark Twain
I know the Nordiques actually drafted Lindros, but that is the last time i can remember the 1st overall pick being traded. And that was for Ron Hextall, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Peter Forsberg, Chris Simon, first round picks in the 1993 and 1994 NHL Entry Drafts and $15 million.
But yeah, maybe Kreider or a combo of Staal & Erixon will move us up.
Yes i know Yakupov isn't considered the generational talent that Lindros was, but still...
This off season I'd look to move AA and/or Dubi. AA is an enigma, has the skills but is too soft, always knocked around which shouldn't be the case at his size. If he isn't moved he needs to center the 3rd line next season. The only thing saving him is a cap friendly salary. Dubi on the other hand, wildly inconsistent, low hockey iq. 4 million for a grinder who forgot how to grind
No, I would keep Kreider. He has already been developed for 3 years since his draft year. He is just about primed and ready for the NHL. A 6'2 225 pound player who has great wheels who has had success at every level he played do not grow on trees
If the Edm GM was that much of an idiot to accept that proposal, I would pay for Kreiders 1st class seat to Edmonton myself. Pay for his family to go as well.
No, I would keep Kreider. He has already been developed for 3 years since his draft year. He is just about primed and ready for the NHL. A 6'2 225 pound player who has great wheels who has had success at every level he played do not grow on trees
Kreider will never be as good as Yakupov, Grigorenko, or Galchenyak. These 3 will most like be in the NHL within a year, while Kreider is in his 4th year of development. Remember, big players take like 3-5 years of NHL play to finally breakout if ever!!
Kreider is in the NHL at age 20. After winning two NCAA titles and a gold medal at the WJC.
IF you trade him it's for an established player (Bobby Ryan) not a LESS established player.
No.
Disagree. If the first overall was a tentative pick where all likely candidates were not going to make an immediate NHL impact then I would say you have a case to be made. Yakupov will be in the NHL next year and will be competing with Kreider for the calder. I'm not saying Yakupov will be better now, or ever, but it's certainly a trade you make. I will eat crow if I am wrong.
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throw in Peckham..rangers can use more snarl on the backend..especially when Hank gets bumped into 
