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Greatest Forwards of All Time #10

View Poll Results: Who is the greatest forward of all time? #10
Stan Mikita 5 7.14%
Mark Messier 17 24.29%
Mike Bossy 11 15.71%
Bobby Clarke 4 5.71%
Jaromir Jagr 13 18.57%
Bryan Trottier 3 4.29%
Steve Yzerman 12 17.14%
Ted Lindsay 2 2.86%
Marcel Dionne 2 2.86%
Syl Apps 1 1.43%
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03-08-2006, 12:14 PM
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I voted for the greatest European-born player of all-time: the Uncheckable Czech, Stan Mikita. There is no way he should fall out of the top 10 forwards of all-time, just like there's no way Jagr should have as many votes as Mike Bossy. Some people really need a history lesson. Perhaps it's time to start disqualifying all homer votes.

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just like there's no way Jagr should have as many votes as Mike Bossy. Some people really need a history lesson. Perhaps it's time to start disqualifying all homer votes.
I'm sorry, but even though I haven't voted for Jagr yet, I think it's highly arguable to say Jagr should not have as many votes as Bossy.
Bossy was a phenom in his own right, but Jagr has 5 Art Rosses and has been the most dominant player in the defensive era.

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Jagr is ahead of Bossy by any reasonable standard

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Jagr is ahead of Bossy by any reasonable standard
So those three straight 17-goal seasons in the playoffs mean nothing, right? Art Ross Trophies are nice, but there is no truer measure of greatness than your ability to elevate your play in the most important of games. Bossy was one of the top players on one of the greatest dynasties this sport has ever seen. He won four straight Cups. Three straight 17-goal playoffs. A Conn Smythe trophy. Helped his team reach another Cup final.

Jagr's had some strong playoffs, but his best would likely rank behind three or four of Bossy's best. And Bossy never tanked it in the playoffs like Jagr did in 2001.

How's that for a "reasonable standard."

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So those three straight 17-goal seasons in the playoffs mean nothing, right? Art Ross Trophies are nice, but there is no truer measure of greatness than your ability to elevate your play in the most important of games. Bossy was one of the top players on one of the greatest dynasties this sport has ever seen. He won four straight Cups. Three straight 17-goal playoffs. A Conn Smythe trophy. Helped his team reach another Cup final.

Jagr's had some strong playoffs, but his best would likely rank behind three or four of Bossy's best. And Bossy never tanked it in the playoffs like Jagr did in 2001.

How's that for a "reasonable standard."
5 Scoring titles and 2 cups trumps Bossy's accomplishments. Bossy was great, Jagr was just a little bit greater. Jagr is #14 on my all time greatest players list (no goalies), Bossy is #30.

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IMO Jagr is near Bossy but not ahead of him yet. Stats aside Bossy had more value all over the ice, always played to the best of his abilities and was a leader. Plus, even though the Isles were well rounded, Bossy was the spearhead of their offense, took a ton of abuse and still stuffed it down teams throats.

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