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04-22-2012, 02:33 PM
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Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Kreider-Stepan-Fedotenko
Scott-Rupp-Prust

This isn't ****ing soccer where don't worry much about having goons on the field. Hockey is a more physical sport. I'm not saying have an entire team filled with goons, but it's a physical game. Torts hasn't put on Rupp to protect anyone this entire series and it has showed. Now we're without our best player in the series likely for the remainder of it.

We need more energy. We don't have the talent to be a purely finesse team. Wear them out. Disrupt them off of their game. Kill the neutral zone and force them to the boards. Set the tone early. Torts has been outcoached. If you're not going to play the 4th line then give them some sort of purpose.

As for Haggy and Kreider together... I don't think it can work, at least this year.


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I love the optional practice for these guys today. Nonsense.

These guys should be doing nothing but passing and shooting drills for an hour and a half.

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This I like. Maybe switch Rupp with one of Fedotenko and Prust, though.

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This I like. Maybe switch Rupp with one of Fedotenko and Prust, though.
I truly believe Rupp deserves more ice time. He's been great this entire series and actually looks like he plays to score.

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I truly believe Rupp deserves more ice time. He's been great this entire series and actually looks like he plays to score.
I agree although he is just too big and slow. Not that he's slow for his size, he's got great speed for a guy his size, but I feel Prust's speed and energy is better served on that line than Rupp's. Prust can also score.

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I truly believe Rupp deserves more ice time. He's been great this entire series and actually looks like he plays to score.
Rupp has been awesome. Needs a few more minutes maybe even PP time

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I agree although he is just too big and slow. Not that he's slow for his size, he's got great speed for a guy his size, but I feel Prust's speed and energy is better served on that line than Rupp's. Prust can also score.
As long as Rupp gets more ice time than Mitchell, everybody wins.

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Hagelin has played some center.

But he wouldn't be able to play nearly the same kind of game in that position.

I'd rather see...

Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Stepan-Callahan
Fedotenko-Anisimov-Prust
Kreider-Mitchell-Rupp
I have a feeling we may end up seeing something like this.

Maybe Torts will switch up Stepan and Arty because historically the Dubi-Step-Cally line has never worked. Then again, Anisimov is a better option for 3rd line C than Stepan, and he's played with Prust in the past.

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04-22-2012, 02:41 PM
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Oh yea? And why is that?
Dave Keon always was a clutch player

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Fedotenko-Mitchell-Prust
I can live with this, though I still prefer my suggested combo, particularly as to your first two lines

On the above I would promote Fedonteko, demote Stepan, and maybe keep Feds + Prust on same line, so herein that is:

Fedotenko-Anisimov-Prust
Rupp-Mitchell-Stepan

Although we know/trust Feds to be big in post season, the points on Rupp are well taken; maybe:
Rupp-Anisimov-Prust
Fedotenko-Mitchell-Stepan


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No, cause Kreider will be given 1 minute of TOI while mitchell has 25 again.

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We aren't winning faceoffs anyway!

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Can we just play Scott over Mitchell. That way Torts can't play Mitchell on the powerplay.

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Hagelin talking to Kreider. They're working together during drills. Hagelin's skating hard this afternoon.

Now I know it isn't a full practice, only 12 guys are there with Biron, and Torts isn't even on the ice, but they're working together. Maybe I'm looking into it too much.

Torts also had this to say about Kreider yesterday in the post game presser:

“I see him maybe getting more minutes as some guys just simply haven’t done the job. We are at the situation now where if you are young, old or medium aged, you are going to play if you are playing well.”

I think there is a 99% chance that Hags, Richie, and Gabs go back together, but you never know with Torts.

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Yes you are looking WAY to into it. Carl is just trying to help chris out since they want chris to play like carl.

And really Feds on the top line? He has been our worst and most invisable player in the series, even over mitchell.

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He can handle it.
Based on what? He clearly does not look nhl ready from his 3 games so far.

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Based off of what? He has 3 NHL games under his belt. This isn't NHL 12 where you just throw in any ol' line combos.
What you say is true. But I counter with the following indisputable logic.

In theory, assuming proximately close ability of offenders and defenders as to skating, the main responsibilities of the Ws are to focus on the boards and on the C to excel at what is going on at the open ice. So if we have a C who is not {or is less} slowed by the physical contact of the puck along the boards, this could be a plus, though obviously, this determines on the specific players involved and their skill sets.
{Yes, there are variations on this theme. Someone w/speed who can also deke might be a suitable alternate lead for getting the puck in. Having the C push the play obviously forces the opposing team to anticipate [i.e., guess] which W is the C going to.}

So, if we temporarily relieve CK of primary (not total) responsibility for crashing the boards and leave that up to experienced linemates; and minimize his getting his pocket picked with our vaulted D, which we have, then we can turn him loose to really outskate the opposition.

Granted at this almost embryonic phase of his career it is too much to hope for him to singlehandedly finish any plays (although seeing what he's got is not necessarily the worst course of action either), AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, he helps us get penetration and sets up for Hags + Cally.


That's why.

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Maybe he's talking to Hags because the coaching staff told him to watch Hags play and to try and play like him? Talking to Hags would allow him to understand why he does certain things and find out how he needs to play in a role like that o be effective.

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It makes the most sense.
This for sure.

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This for sure.
Stepan's game is cold.

Put AA or another C there.

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It makes the most sense.
This is actually really good.

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Hagelin. Richards. Gaborik
Kreider. Stepan. Callahan
Dubinsky. Anisimov. Fedotenko
Rupp. Mitchell. Prust

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Stepan's game is cold.

Put AA or another C there.
Stepan played his bast game yesterday. He should be on the 2nd line tomorrow for sure.

If this team plays like they did for the first 2 1/2 periods yesterday, they'll pull through regardless of the lines.

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This is actually really good.
hagelin -richards- gaborik
Dubinsky - AA - Cally
Kreider - Stepan - fedotenko
Scott - rupp - prust

Leave Bickel in

Scott and Bickel take out Carkner resp Neil early on, the rest of our boys can put the heat on big time for the remaining 55 minutes and even it up... this is the gest solution imo. Double shift Cally/gabby on the 4th line a couple of shifts each period and go with 5 D. Time to stop *****footing around...

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Hagelin Richards Gaborik
Dubinsky Anisimov Callahan
Kreider Stepan Fedotenko


The lines don't matter nearly as much as the fact that we need way more energy and urgency than we had last game.

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I hope torts does not do this.

Let's just go with what won us game 1, and had us in prime position to win game 2.

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