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04-23-2012, 03:18 PM
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Parros has deteriorated so bad in the last season. He can barely skate and is less involved than he's ever been. No thanks.

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04-23-2012, 03:58 PM
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Parros has deteriorated so bad in the last season. He can barely skate and is less involved than he's ever been. No thanks.
Yup, Parros would be Laraque 2.0.

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If we can re-sign Staubitz, that's good enough.

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If we can re-sign Staubitz, that's good enough.
It seems like such an obvious move, but we'll find a way not to re-sign the guy.

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It seems like such an obvious move, but we'll find a way not to re-sign the guy.
Lets actually wait till a GM is hired and hear what kind of team he would like to ice before we start saying this kind of stuff.

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I hope staubitz will Be back

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I hope staubitz will Be back
Yeah, you know what? Even though I've explained at length why I wouldn't have bothered acquiring him, I'm at least open to seeing what a revamped lineup with him included looks like. Not that I "hope" he'll be back, but knowing that he has also (somehow) enjoyed his time playing in Montreal so far, I'm not pushing for him to be shipped off, either.

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If we bring Moen back, having Staubitz back as a 13th or 14th forward means we can have one mid tier enforcer and two grinders willing to drop them regularly. That would be solid. Assuming we can bring in more size and physical play on the back end, we really don't need to bring in more guys who only fight just to add to toughness, as our terrible wing depth needs skill too.

Someone like Konopka wouldn't be bad either, but our 4th C should be about energy and faceoffs, not a plug.

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If we bring Moen back, having Staubitz back as a 13th or 14th forward means we can have one mid tier enforcer and two grinders willing to drop them regularly. That would be solid. Assuming we can bring in more size and physical play on the back end, we really don't need to bring in more guys who only fight just to add to toughness, as our terrible wing depth needs skill too.

Someone like Konopka wouldn't be bad either, but our 4th C should be about energy and faceoffs, not a plug.
Mckenzie from Columbus and Slater from Winnipeg are two good options.

Other option: Ryan White playing at center like in his junior years.

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So long as Staubitz is willing to sign a league-minimum contract, I don't see any problem with having him under contract for next season, anyway. Whether he actually makes our team or not... I'd leave that up to him/fate, whilst sincerely hoping he doesn't make it. (By dint of us having 13-14 forwards who show themselves to be better than him / more likely to help us win games).

He can be "in the mix", say, if he doesn't have any better offers. He probably won't. But I absolutely would not ink his name onto my projected starting roster, and would not hesitate to send him through waivers in October if/when the time came.

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How pathetic are we that we based all our hopes on Staubitz. Shows that we have been starved of grit for so long. If you look at the Sens, they have guys with grit that can play the game, contribute, key guys. That's what the Habs should do. I would keep Staubitz but definitly have a whole roster of guys that can go to war. We can't afford to have Webers and Diazs in this era. Other type of guys should have those spots.

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Look at the impact Carkner had on the Rangers.

Boyle is playing like a very tall girl after playing like a beast in Game 1.

Carkner is the perfect 7th DMan for the Habs.
You cant have him!

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We need to draft or find a player who can fight and play.

By the way, how did Chris Neil slip to the 6th round?

His stats just before he was drafted:
1997-1998 OHL North Bay Centennials 59 GP 26 G 29 A 55 P -8 231 PIM (24 fights)

731 games played in the regular season, 80 in the post-season. All with Ottawa. I'm jelly.

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So long as Staubitz is willing to sign a league-minimum contract, I don't see any problem with having him under contract for next season, anyway. Whether he actually makes our team or not... I'd leave that up to him/fate, whilst sincerely hoping he doesn't make it. (By dint of us having 13-14 forwards who show themselves to be better than him / more likely to help us win games).

He can be "in the mix", say, if he doesn't have any better offers. He probably won't. But I absolutely would not ink his name onto my projected starting roster, and would not hesitate to send him through waivers in October if/when the time came.
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How pathetic are we that we based all our hopes on Staubitz. Shows that we have been starved of grit for so long. If you look at the Sens, they have guys with grit that can play the game, contribute, key guys. That's what the Habs should do. I would keep Staubitz but definitly have a whole roster of guys that can go to war. We can't afford to have Webers and Diazs in this era. Other type of guys should have those spots.

Agreed 110%.

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Look at the impact Carkner had on the Rangers.

Boyle is playing like a very tall girl after playing like a beast in Game 1.

Carkner is the perfect 7th DMan for the Habs.
Boyle always plays like a very tall girl, the guy is soft as butter, That's why picking on the likes of Karlson is about the extent of his physical play.

But he was the Rangers best player before and after Carkner attacked him until he was concussed in game five. He scored later in the same game then scored the only goal of the next game.

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