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04-24-2012, 06:56 AM
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I think Toews, Kane and Seabrook and probably the only 3 untouchables.
Yeah, I agree with you. I'd hate to see Sharp or Hossa go, though.

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sign montoya and vokoun in the off season to be the black hawks tandem

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04-24-2012, 07:04 AM
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I think Toews, Kane and Seabrook and probably the only 3 untouchables.
kieth to the island?

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kieth to the island?
Keith+ for Hamonic?

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Keith is not going anywhere. They didn't sign him to a 12 year deal to trade him in 2 years.

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If they could somehow get a really solid young goalie...

Toews+Kane+Sharp+Hossa+Keith+Seabrook+ Solid Goaltending = awesome team. As long as the depth players are decent, that team should always be able to compete against anyone.

I don't know how they get that goalie though. If they had to move a guy from their core... Kane is probably the most expendable with some of the highest value. Sharp/Toews/Hossa are all great two-way guys who can put up 65+ points (Toews/Hossa can obviously put up closer to 75).

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We need a bonafide top six scorer, preferably a center. A 4/5 defenseman would be welcome as well.

That's hardly "fixing" a great team. Hawk fans are hilarious right now.

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Why isn't Sharp their 2C?

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I think Toews, Kane and Seabrook and probably the only 3 untouchables.
Hossa is debatable with that contract.

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I would have played Hossa

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We need a bonafide top six scorer, preferably a center. A 4/5 defenseman would be welcome as well.

That's hardly "fixing" a great team. Hawk fans are hilarious right now.
Cue the Jordan Staal and Paul Martin to the Hawks proposals.

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What would you be looking for in return for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

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Crash the net with Semin?


Who's closer to a cup winning team Chicago or Buffalo?

Look up and down the roster. It's Chicago hands down.

Chicago is only 2-3 pieces away.
That's not what I meant. Two seperate thoughts. Semin does not crash the net. Hawks need big bodies. Trading Bolland and Kane/Hossa/Sharp for a bigger top-6 and a bigger winger.

Then, seperate thought, maybe sign a UFA winger, like Semin, to replace what you lost in trading Kane/Hossa/Sharp.

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04-24-2012, 09:39 AM
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Maybe get a 2nd line center. But not much needs to be changed. They ran into a hot goalie. It happens

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Hawks shouldn't think of blowing it up. To build a team I think you need 4 core forwards (Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa) 2 dman (Seabrook, Keith) and a goalie (XXXXX). Then fill in the holes. I think a soild goalie would have put this team up for a long run

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04-24-2012, 10:22 AM
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The OP is realistic if you're looking to sign free agents, not looking for a trade.
1st, 2nd, McNeill, Pirri, Morin, Stalberg and much more.... there is enough value that can be had

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We need a bonafide top six scorer, preferably a center. A 4/5 defenseman would be welcome as well.

That's hardly "fixing" a great team. Hawk fans are hilarious right now.
that's more a problem because english isn't my native language

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04-24-2012, 12:05 PM
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I think Toews, Kane and Seabrook and probably the only 3 untouchables.
Duncan Keith signed lifetime contract with Hawks ,, He will retire a Hawk

He also has a NMC so he isn't going anywhere nor should he. Want to see Keith play better

Get a top 4 dman who can PK , etc to take some of load off him. He shouldn't be averaging nearly 27 minutes a night

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04-24-2012, 12:09 PM
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You need to decide how fast/what combination you want to liquidate some future assets for current assets. What is the best mix? Who stays? Who goes?

You also have to be prepared to pay.
If Ryan Miller available from Buf, wow but expect big price.

The floor is always open, but currently the last on the subject to which some agreed/disagreed was:

Dubinsky + Christian Thomas
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Olsen + McNeil

Still thinking like that unless there are better offers.

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04-24-2012, 12:15 PM
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Start by firing that clown Bowman

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04-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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Kipper for Crawford and 1st is a great deal for Chicago and I think it would get Calgary's attention, I'm not quite sure what the Flames ownerships philosophy is moving forward however so that might be a stumbling block.

Sign Harding - this is the route I see the Hawks pursuing this offseason, but Harding hasn't done anything to prove he is an upgrade on Crawford.

Sign Vokoun - a good option but there will be competition. I could see the Blue Jackets offering a nice long term deal to TV

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i think many are overreacting over this. as far as i see it, in order of priority, it goes:

Goalie
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2nd line c

Saad will fill a top 6 role very soon if he keeps up his play, shaw is a good 3rd liner who can fill gaps in case of injury. they have carcillo coming back, with hayes and bollig there are enough guys willing to hit and crash the net coming in.

the guys i'm looking for the hawks to trade are stalberg (dont hate the guy, just need the open spots for the influx of youth), Kruger(same as stalberg. by all means he could stay, but i can see him being involved in a trade) oduya and crawford.

that being said, what would it take for the hawks to get bernier? with quicks play he's gatta be open to being traded from a kings point of view. crawford can work as a backup or 1/b, and quick wont need a ton of games off either. so i'm thinking crawford+ just having a hard time determining what the + is.

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1st, 2nd, McNeill, Pirri, Morin, Stalberg and much more.... there is enough value that can be had
Not much give for someone that wants to get.

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Tim Connolly for Bickell

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Needs

New Coaches
#1 Goalie
Top6 player that actually is a Top6 player (not like Stalberg or the others they tried)
Bottom pairing D

Takers for Frolik and Crawford have to be found. Stalberg can be part of a package for sure

Sharp, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook and Bolland won't go
Leddy, Saad, Hayes Bros, Krüger and Olsen are seen as untouchable for Bowman (unless it would be a steal for the Hawks - won't happen)
Get a tru #1 goaltender and build from within.

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To get quality back, Chicago will probably have to give up quality.


Ryan Miller and Derek Roy for...

Crawford, Sharp, and Keith
Sweet baby jesus, Hawks get *****!

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