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04-24-2012, 09:28 AM
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Positives From This Year

With a very disappointing end to the year...and an underachieving season for the most part what are some things that we can take from this year and look on the bright side.

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- Shaw seems like a great player and got some good experiece and will be an important player for us going forward

-Hayes brings a big body precence and some hands that I for one didnt know that we had in our system available so quick.

-Toews even with his injury showed that he can be a top goalscorer and really put up major points if he gets a whole season in.

-Kane has the ability to play center if in a bind.

-Hossa almost played a full season

What are some others???

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Jayes showing he's not a total softy, Shaw emerging out of nowhere, Stalberg turning into a useful NHL talent, and Olsen's improvement.

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Bolland played pretty much a full season.

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- Bowman found out that Kitchen sucks and added Barry Smith to the office/staff

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Another first round exit is not positive.

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The hardest issue to decide positive (very few if any positives,IMO--except for Andrew Shaw) is NICK LEDDY....

This is a glass half-full vs. half-empty question...


Leddy had a rough 2nd half,finished -12, and though was +3 in the 6GP of the playoffs --BUT again in Game 6 he goes -2....

He did produve 37 pts in the reg season and was 1g and 2A in the 6 playoff games and of course the marketing dept. trumpets how at only 21 he is "ahead of the curve" --this means he is EXPECTED TO GET BETTER as he gets more experienced and gets stronger as he matures...POSSIBLY ....but the same was expected for Duncan Keith after his early years --he did improve but may have already plateiued in the CUP year 2009/10--having regressed offensively and even defensively since..


ALSO one has the ERIK KARLSSON example--- same criticism of the kid for his early
defensive lapses JUST LAST SEASON (-30) albeit with offensive promise (45pts)
--this year Karlsson is touted for the Norris and considered one of the best D-men in the league (78 pts and +16) ...it can happen that quick.


SO glass half-full? LEDDY will explode offensively next year and wipe-out the negative in the +/- to a significant positive! The "head of the curve" prophecy willbear fruit as he drastically improves ...


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GLASS half-empty...Leddy is no Karlsson ...does not get better..does not get much stronger..so still has problems getting shoved off pucks on the boards,so turnovers,losses of possession,puck stays in Hawks zone --goals still go in Hawks net;Leddy does not improve in positioning/coverage mistakes ,por pinching decisions etc..result agin more goals against ...thus "improvement" may take years yet --nit immediate improvement by next season.

FURTHER he always --like Keith --willbe a "small" non-physical PMD and so vulnerable to losing puck battles to bigger stronger players...so even if he improves via experience on coverage decisions ,he still is going to lose physical puck possession battles -this then is a sTRUCTURAL wuestion for the Hawks D --can we afford 2 'small" PMD 's losing possesion battles behind our net?


IF he "explodes" into greatness like Karlsson--making up for a few defensive gaffes or over-powers by the extra offense-that is one thing--if he plateaus at a "half-karlsson" level--THEN it cannot make up for the size/defensive "strength" flaws...

So which will it be? I do not know for sure--but how long will we wait? I guess he gets next season to see IF their is like Karlsson, a "great Leap forward" year ---but IF NOT---THEN how long more to we put up with the sTRUCTURAL component pronlem--too many undersized critical d?

So again either his 37 points is a positive indicator OR he cannot explode into 'specialness"==if not then we have a problem.

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The hardest issue to decide positive (very few if any positives,IMO--except for Andrew Shaw) is NICK LEDDY....

This is a glass half-full vs. half-empty question...


Leddy had a rough 2nd half,finished -12, and though was +3 in the 6GP of the playoffs --BUT again in Game 6 he goes -2....

He did produve 37 pts in the reg season and was 1g and 2A in the 6 playoff games and of course the marketing dept. trumpets how at only 21 he is "ahead of the curve" --this means he is EXPECTED TO GET BETTER as he gets more experienced and gets stronger as he matures...POSSIBLY ....but the same was expected for Duncan Keith after his early years --he did improve but may have already plateiued in the CUP year 2009/10--having regressed offensively and even defensively since..


ALSO one has the ERIK KARLSSON example--- same criticism of the kid for his early
defensive lapses JUST LAST SEASON (-30) albeit with offensive promise (45pts)
--this year Karlsson is touted for the Norris and considered one of the best D-men in the league (78 pts and +16) ...it can happen that quick.


SO glass half-full? LEDDY will explode offensively next year and wipe-out the negative in the +/- to a significant positive! The "head of the curve" prophecy willbear fruit as he drastically improves ...


OR

GLASS half-empty...Leddy is no Karlsson ...does not get better..does not get much stronger..so still has problems getting shoved off pucks on the boards,so turnovers,losses of possession,puck stays in Hawks zone --goals still go in Hawks net;Leddy does not improve in positioning/coverage mistakes ,por pinching decisions etc..result agin more goals against ...thus "improvement" may take years yet --nit immediate improvement by next season.

FURTHER he always --like Keith --willbe a "small" non-physical PMD and so vulnerable to losing puck battles to bigger stronger players...so even if he improves via experience on coverage decisions ,he still is going to lose physical puck possession battles -this then is a sTRUCTURAL wuestion for the Hawks D --can we afford 2 'small" PMD 's losing possesion battles behind our net?


IF he "explodes" into greatness like Karlsson--making up for a few defensive gaffes or over-powers by the extra offense-that is one thing--if he plateaus at a "half-karlsson" level--THEN it cannot make up for the size/defensive "strength" flaws...

So which will it be? I do not know for sure--but how long will we wait? I guess he gets next season to see IF their is like Karlsson, a "great Leap forward" year ---but IF NOT---THEN how long more to we put up with the sTRUCTURAL component pronlem--too many undersized critical d?

So again either his 37 points is a positive indicator OR he cannot explode into 'specialness"==if not then we have a problem.
HE is only 21 he will be fine he has played 159 games so far in his career, they say it takes 300 games for a defenseman to finally start figuring it out, hes got some more time...

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