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04-23-2012, 08:55 PM
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lol I don't think a kidface is a huge indicator of someone growing. But it means they have a chance. Though still growing could mean only half an inch to an inch.
I just don't think he's done growing.

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Heard from a good source of mine that it sounds like 100% that he's headed to Portland.
Sure about that? Remember he was also 100% going to Everett according to people here. When the truth is he told them he would never play for them..

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Sure about that? Remember he was also 100% going to Everett according to people here. When the truth is he told them he would never play for them..
What about that 100% going college, which is what a lot more people said than people who said he was going to Everett.

I'll believe it when I see it, but I always believed he would go to the WHL and I will be excited he's coming to the CHL when he goes.

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Sure about that? Remember he was also 100% going to Everett according to people here. When the truth is he told them he would never play for them..
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I just don't think he's done growing.
He probably isn't your right, I don't think he'll reach his dad's height, maybe 6'5-6'6.

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Where would Jones go if he were 2012 eligible?

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Where would Jones go if he were 2012 eligible?
In contention for #1 overall, especially with Edmonton in need of a good defender.

At least, I'd assume.

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Where would Jones go if he were 2012 eligible?
Probably 2 to 4, just a guess.

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04-24-2012, 12:52 AM
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I think if these measurables were really all that important in hockey we would already see tons of players with these attributes. Not saying being 'superhuman' doesn't help but I don't think it is anywhere near as important in hockey as it is in a sport like (American) Football.
Don't want to derail the thread too much, but the majority (enormous majority) of "Seth Jones" in the U.S. don't ever pick up a hockey stick.

I love hockey more than any other sport in the world, but the most physically gifted athletes in the U.S. typically don't grow up playing hockey.

I've summed it up this way in the past: If all of the athletes in the NHL grew up playing basketball/football over hockey, the NBA/NFL wouldn't look a whole lot different. If, however, all of the athletes in ther NBA/NFL grew up playing/choosing hockey... well, i think you see where i'm headed with this.

Back to the main topic, it's been a while since i've been this excited about a U.S. prospect.

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Atleast the kids smart and choose the CHL, good to see an elite prospect wanting to play in by far the worlds elite development league

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Atleast the kids smart and choose the CHL, good to see an elite prospect wanting to play in by far the worlds elite development league
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Don't want to derail the thread too much, but the majority (enormous majority) of "Seth Jones" in the U.S. don't ever pick up a hockey stick.

I love hockey more than any other sport in the world, but the most physically gifted athletes in the U.S. typically don't grow up playing hockey.

I've summed it up this way in the past: If all of the athletes in the NHL grew up playing basketball/football over hockey, the NBA/NFL wouldn't look a whole lot different. If, however, all of the athletes in ther NBA/NFL grew up playing/choosing hockey... well, i think you see where i'm headed with this.

Back to the main topic, it's been a while since i've been this excited about a U.S. prospect.
Agreed about derailing the thread so this will be my last point and then we can probably agree to disagree.

It would be foolish of me to argue that hockey being higher up in the pecking order in the US wouldn't have an impact on the make up of the NHL so I won't.

What I am saying is in some countries hockey is higher up the pecking order and those countries as a general rule still aren't sending 6'6 260lbs monsters to the NHL.

I guess I am trying to make two points...

1) It's not like the US has a monolopy on big & tall athletes (given the population they would obviously have more than say Canada or Finland) so if being 6'6 260lbs was all that important in hockey we would see more of these types of athletes coming from countries where compared to the US hockey is more often the sport of choice among elite athletes.

2) I think if more Americans played hockey it would simply mean more Americans, of roughly the same height and weight that play in the NHL now, would be in the NHL. I doubt the league would suddenly be filled with players you look like NBA power forwards or NFL linebackers.

But ya... totally the wrong thread for this discussion... Sorry 'bout that folks.

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04-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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Where would Jones go if he were 2012 eligible?
Easily #1 overall.

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04-24-2012, 11:35 AM
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No doubt, EDM would run to the podium to grab him.

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04-24-2012, 11:39 AM
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No doubt, EDM would run to the podium to grab him.
This makes it 100% Seth Jones if we were going by mock draft.

If we were talking about player rankings (without teams in mind) I'd still put Seth Jones #1 without hesitation.



Seth Jones, all things considered, is an incredible incredible athlete. Possibly one of the most physically prepared and regimented athletes to be scouted.

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04-24-2012, 11:50 AM
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I also agree that Jones would be a #1 choice if he was 2012 eligible.

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04-24-2012, 04:25 PM
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I don't think he would be the number one ranked player, Edmonton would definitely take him over Yakupov, but I doubt he'd be ranked about Yakupov. We always rate the players that are coming up next draft higher than maybe we should.

I think he's number one for 2013 though.

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Drafting a defenseman that high has a very spotty (and that's being kind) record. If I'm a GM, and there is a reason I'm not, I would be very hesitant to take a defender in the top 2.

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I don't think he would be the number one ranked player, Edmonton would definitely take him over Yakupov, but I doubt he'd be ranked about Yakupov. We always rate the players that are coming up next draft higher than maybe we should.

I think he's number one for 2013 though.
I don't think there's been a Defenseman that can skate, shoot, pass, etc. like him in a very long time.

I think he is much more valuable than Yakupov.

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I don't think he would be the number one ranked player, Edmonton would definitely take him over Yakupov, but I doubt he'd be ranked about Yakupov. We always rate the players that are coming up next draft higher than maybe we should.

I think he's number one for 2013 though.
I wonder how this board would have reacted in 2010 if someone suggested that Larsson would be taken fourth overall.

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With hindsight I would take Karlsson as a #1 pick and Jones could even be better.

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With hindsight I would take Karlsson as a #1 pick and Jones could even be better.
Karlsson over a 60 goal scorer... Come on.

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Jones is going to be a STUD on D. It will matter on team needs, but I`d like to say he`ll be competing with MacKinnon, maybe even Monahan, Barkov and Shinkaruk.

I have Mackinnon being ahead of Jones right now.

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Jones and MacKinnon are certainly 1a 1b right now.

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Jones and MacKinnon are certainly 1a 1b right now.
Exactly, all comes down to progress and need.

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