There's a big difference between a fighter and a dirty player/goon.
...Or for that matter, Ryan Callahan.
What's next? Richards and Gaborik are dirty players too?
He launches himself whenever he hits someone...it is getting old, and undetected. That is how I see him. A player that bugs me but, again, would like him on my team, but I pretty much have had enough of him.
Richards I like a lot and Gaborik is, well, invisible. Like Michalek basically so they cancel each other out.
He launches himself whenever he hits someone...it is getting old, and undetected. That is how I see him. A player that bugs me but, again, would like him on my team, but I pretty much have had enough of him.
Richards I like a lot and Gaborik is, well, invisible. Like Michalek basically so they cancel each other out.
Please find me one example of Callahan's so-called borderline play. Where there is clear intent to injure.
He launches himself whenever he hits someone...it is getting old, and undetected. That is how I see him. A player that bugs me but, again, would like him on my team, but I pretty much have had enough of him.
Richards I like a lot and Gaborik is, well, invisible. Like Michalek basically so they cancel each other out.
Callahan? Really? Of all the players you can go after, you pick Callahan?
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I feel like this is such an appropriate quote for these boards...
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"-Mark Twain
Don't hold your breath Mr. Hat. You're going to be waiting a long time.
Oh, I know. Dude is probably failing at searching for anything related to that on YouTube. I would think Cally would have a lot of charging penalties this year, not a few like anyone can receive.
I am not going to convince you of my opinion, but I see what I see from my end, my seats. He hits hard, but he launches himself, on a lot of occasions. I didn't know I had to keep track but I will let you know next game. He is not big but plays big. I would like him on my team but I don't like watching him fly around. Near the boards.
I don't take it personally that you all hate Neil, he is effective...you shouldn't like him. If I don't like Callahan it is because he is effective against my favourite team. I respect him though as a hard nosed player who leads his team.
A sensitive lot here, but what do you expect from people who wail and gnash their teeth over Neil yet wish for the return of Avery?
I am not going to convince you of my opinion, but I see what I see from my end, my seats. He hits hard, but he launches himself, on a lot of occasions. I didn't know I had to keep track but I will let you know next game. He is not big but plays big. I would like him on my team but I don't like watching him fly around. Near the boards.
I don't take it personally that you all hate Neil, he is effective...you shouldn't like him. If I don't like Callahan it is because he is effective against my favourite team. I respect him though as a hard nosed player who leads his team.
A sensitive lot here, but what do you expect from people who wail and gnash their teeth over Neil yet wish for the return of Avery?
Don't speak for everyone here, OK? because a lot of people here got sick of Avery's antics, and frankly, actually understand that he is not coming back to play hockey. I think he's doing something with fashion shows on TV now...
I am not going to convince you of my opinion, but I see what I see from my end, my seats. He hits hard, but he launches himself, on a lot of occasions. I didn't know I had to keep track but I will let you know next game. He is not big but plays big. I would like him on my team but I don't like watching him fly around. Near the boards.
I don't take it personally that you all hate Neil, he is effective...you shouldn't like him. If I don't like Callahan it is because he is effective against my favourite team. I respect him though as a hard nosed player who leads his team.
A sensitive lot here, but what do you expect from people who wail and gnash their teeth over Neil yet wish for the return of Avery?
I just think if what you were saying about Callahan were true more people (on HF) would be complaining about him.
And for the record..any Ranger fan who wants what is best for the Rangers does notwant Avery back.
I just think if what you were saying about Callahan were true more people (on HF) would be complaining about him.
And for the record..any Ranger fan who wants what is best for the Rangers does notwant Avery back.
Look, I enjoy talking hockey with HF people, notably Original Six teams in the States. Toronto and Montreal are terrible hockey fans. Very homercentric. Ottawa fans all came from somewhere else, as half my life we didn't have a team so we generally like the game and players in general.
I have never watched the Rangers so closely, 6 games in 10 games or whatever and if I can have a mild hate for Callahan, MDZ and not much else, really, imagine how the players feel. Which is why I understand the hate for Neil and others. You watch them closely they'll drive you nuts.
I did take someone's advice and the clips that I have watched, notably a Callahan tribute video demonstrates what he does that annoys me. Not necessarily Mad Dog antics but when he hits he drives up with his body. When he hits his point of impact differs from the finish. Now I am not saying I see him clip someone in the head but he drives upwards, launches, when he hits. If it is his size, or his speed that makes it happen I am not sure. Just watching him live three times now, it bugs me that's all.
So no, he didn't kill babies or decapitate puppies! I would take him and Prust on my team any day. Prust-Callahan-Neil may be the most vicious line in hockey. Especially playoff mode.
I did take someone's advice and the clips that I have watched, notably a Callahan tribute video demonstrates what he does that annoys me. Not necessarily Mad Dog antics but when he hits he drives up with his body. When he hits his point of impact differs from the finish. Now I am not saying I see him clip someone in the head but he drives upwards, launches, when he hits. If it is his size, or his speed that makes it happen I am not sure. Just watching him live three times now, it bugs me that's all.
He brings his arms with him on many of hits hits. When your using your arms on a hit, you drive them into a players midsection and then explode upwards. Every player in the NHL does this. Carl Hagelin did the same thing on the Alfie hit, but he mistimed the upwards explosion and it happened too early, resulting in a headshot. Watch your own players for when they bring their arms to bear on body checks. Better yet, watch Marc Staal, Dan Girardi or Ryan McDonagh when they're standing someone up at the blueline. It's a pretty standard thing.
I am not going to convince you of my opinion, but I see what I see from my end, my seats. He hits hard, but he launches himself, on a lot of occasions. I didn't know I had to keep track but I will let you know next game. He is not big but plays big. I would like him on my team but I don't like watching him fly around. Near the boards.
I don't take it personally that you all hate Neil, he is effective...you shouldn't like him. If I don't like Callahan it is because he is effective against my favourite team. I respect him though as a hard nosed player who leads his team.
A sensitive lot here, but what do you expect from people who wail and gnash their teeth over Neil yet wish for the return of Avery?
Typical outsider fans who bash Avery based on what they hear in the Media. Nobodey had a problem with Avery on the team besides Torts who didnt like him before he got here. He didnt allow Avery to straddle the line and be who is so things did not work out.
Its funny because when you look at the violence in the league Avery is nowehere near what guys like Cooke with his cheap knee hits, Torres head shots and other guys in the league hits including Neil who claims because a guy has his head down its a right to KIll him. Besides the occassional punch before a fight Avery did not do cheapshots they way people want to make it seem. He was a good player who liked to get under guys skin with his mouth. When i hear people dont like Avery thats fine but dont make it seem like its obvious that hes a demon if all you are judging it is on what you see in a highlight. Did you watch him every game.
Not in this circumstance but thats not to say he cant add to a team if hes motivated. He can be real difference maker for a cheap price.
Very true. I can't imagine that no one wants him. Wasn't Edmonton rumored to have interest?
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Originally Posted by coladin
Look, I enjoy talking hockey with HF people, notably Original Six teams in the States. Toronto and Montreal are terrible hockey fans. Very homercentric. Ottawa fans all came from somewhere else, as half my life we didn't have a team so we generally like the game and players in general.
I have never watched the Rangers so closely, 6 games in 10 games or whatever and if I can have a mild hate for Callahan, MDZ and not much else, really, imagine how the players feel. Which is why I understand the hate for Neil and others. You watch them closely they'll drive you nuts.
I did take someone's advice and the clips that I have watched, notably a Callahan tribute video demonstrates what he does that annoys me. Not necessarily Mad Dog antics but when he hits he drives up with his body. When he hits his point of impact differs from the finish. Now I am not saying I see him clip someone in the head but he drives upwards, launches, when he hits. If it is his size, or his speed that makes it happen I am not sure. Just watching him live three times now, it bugs me that's all.
So no, he didn't kill babies or decapitate puppies! I would take him and Prust on my team any day. Prust-Callahan-Neil may be the most vicious line in hockey. Especially playoff mode.
A fair response. Here is to a good clean game seven!
