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04-25-2012, 01:41 PM
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We don't want Martin and his contract for Malone, we can get better for him. Kennedy creeps me out with how weird he looks and we have enough bottom 6 fowards. Niskannen is the only one I want from that deal. If Despres is off the table what about Morrow?
I feel the same way about Kennedy, I don't like his pig face. That overrides how good he is or is not

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Welcome to HF, man.
Happy to be here; but if this Luongo over-payment expectation from Canuck fans continues, I may go into hibernation.

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04-25-2012, 04:31 PM
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Happy to be here; but if this Luongo over-payment expectation from Canuck fans continues, I may go into hibernation.
We all made it though Stammergeddon, this is nothing!

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04-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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While I am not completlely against getting Lou I really hope we don't. Aside from the contract I do not think he will be the answer we are looking for. Also one of the biggest issue I have with it is that we are basically saying we have no faith in Tic or Janus as our future.
That last part is not true at all. Goalies come into their own around 25. They are both 22. Luongo for 4-5 years would put both of them as backups around when they are 25 and the starter at age 26. Prime position actually.

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That last part is not true at all. Goalies come into their own around 25. They are both 22. Luongo for 4-5 years would put both of them as backups around when they are 25 and the starter at age 26. Prime position actually.
For some reason I thought the remaining amount of time on Lou contract was longer.

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04-25-2012, 07:10 PM
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For some reason I thought the remaining amount of time on Lou contract was longer.
It's a weird contract. The full term runs through the 2021-2022 season. After the final game of 2013-2014, Luongo can submit a list of 5 teams he'd like to be traded to, and you have until July 15th to trade him. The second window opens up after 2017-2018, and the team can request a list of 5 acceptable teams, and trade him before September 1st. If Lu gives a list in 2014 and doesn't get traded, the second chance doesn't happen.

Stuff like this makes me wish that the new CBA caps contract terms.

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For some reason I thought the remaining amount of time on Lou contract was longer.
It's a 10 year contract, everyone tries to say its only 6 cause then the money drops but cap hit remains. People also think he'll retire before it ends, either way it makes no sense giving up decent assets in hopes he retires.

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04-25-2012, 08:24 PM
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For some reason I thought the remaining amount of time on Lou contract was longer.
It is. But after year 6 there are a ton of options, and thats assuming he decides he doesnt want to play for 1M or less a year and retires.

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Depending on the price, several teams may be willing to take that risk.

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04-25-2012, 08:35 PM
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Remember, those options mean nothing to us. If Luongo waives his NTC it's waived for good meaning we are not bound by it.

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Remember, those options mean nothing to us. If Luongo waives his NTC it's waived for good meaning we are not bound by it.
Really? I did not know that. But whether he stays for a year or 4 he is still hard to move.

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I really would enjoy Luongo being in Tampa...IF he is retrieved for little value.

He is not worth anything more than our second with a cap dump, imo. We all know SFY is stingy, so I don't even expect him to give THAT much.

I think there is a good chance Luongo ends up here, but if VAN thinks they will be getting a deal centered around Malone or Purcell (as has been said in the trade boards) I'm fairly confident SFY will walk away.

Have faith in Y(zerman)e.

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Would like to see Luongo go to Tampa Bay for Malone, Connolly and 2nd or Luongo + Kesler for Malone, Connolly, Hedman & 3rd

You guys would be getting a huuuuuuge upgrade in goal and an Olympic gold champion

Canucks aren't giving Luongo away so don't expect peanuts. Your talking about a franchise goaltender with top goalie stat numbers

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Would like to see Luongo go to Tampa Bay for Malone, Connolly and 2nd or Luongo + Kesler for Malone, Connolly, Hedman & 3rd

You guys would be getting a huuuuuuge upgrade in goal and an Olympic gold champion

Canucks aren't giving Luongo away so don't expect peanuts. Your talking about a franchise goaltender with top goalie stat numbers
Are you havin a laugh?

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Assuming Kesler is off the board, would any TB fans deal Purcell for a package with Schneider or Luongo as the centerpiece? He's exactly what the Vancouver second line needs...

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Assuming Kesler is off the board, would any TB fans deal Purcell for a package with Schneider or Luongo as the centerpiece? He's exactly what the Vancouver second line needs...
If it's for schneider it has to be purcell++ but if its for luongo its probably straight up or luongo +

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Assuming Kesler is off the board, would any TB fans deal Purcell for a package with Schneider or Luongo as the centerpiece? He's exactly what the Vancouver second line needs...
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If it's for schneider it has to be purcell++ but if its for luongo its probably straight up or luongo +
No and no.

Luongo for a 2nd + something not nice

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Why would we want Kesler? I know he brought our country a silver medal (so did Malone), but we kind of have a few centers now in Vinny, and Some other guy.

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Would like to see Luongo go to Tampa Bay for Malone, Connolly and 2nd or Luongo + Kesler for Malone, Connolly, Hedman & 3rd

You guys would be getting a huuuuuuge upgrade in goal and an Olympic gold champion

Canucks aren't giving Luongo away so don't expect peanuts. Your talking about a franchise goaltender with top goalie stat numbers
Future extremely disappointed Canucks fan #156364.

You guys are going to need a support group at this rate.

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Future extremely disappointed Canucks fan #156364.

You guys are going to need a support group at this rate.
yeah, its getting ridicolous

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#SNPlayoffs #Canucks Luongo asks for trade. Van didn't even need to ask him to waive NTC. He tells them himself in exit meeting he wants out
Interesting. Wonder is Kyper is imagining things again, or if this is legit. If legit does it mean that Luongo is willing to broaden his list of teams he will go to?

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If it's for schneider it has to be purcell++ but if its for luongo its probably straight up or luongo +
Deal, we decide the + though. For Schneider we'll give you a 3rd + Harju. For Luongo the plus we want is Tanev.

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I have questions.

When did Malone become somebody that the Lightning are trying to dump? And if that is in fact true, why are they trying to dump him? Much happier with his contract than with Luongos. And is there some reason that his NMC no longer seems to apply in regards to a Luongo trade?

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I have questions.

When did Malone become somebody that the Lightning are trying to dump? And if that is in fact true, why are they trying to dump him? Much happier with his contract than with Luongos. And is there some reason that his NMC no longer seems to apply in regards to a Luongo trade?
It's pretty funny. Everyone wants to dump Malone except Yzerman.

Malone has a NMC and I very much doubt he'd waive to go to Vancouver. Only places I could really ever see Bugsy waiving for are Pittsburgh and Minnesota for obvious reasons. I don't want to trade Malone because as of now, he's our only legit power forward and he just had his best season with us since 08-09.

Any Vancouver fan asking for Hedman, Connolly, the 10th overall..etc. are just ****ing high. They're going to be in for some RUDE disappointment in the coming weeks. You can't value Luongo as a top 10 goalie if you don't value him that way yourselves. Dig your own grave and now you live in it, the way things work in a salary cap world.

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