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04-24-2012, 09:40 AM
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I donno why a team wouldn't want him. Wouldn't he help with that rule I hate about having a certain number of Brits on the ice at once?
They dont have that rule in the Elite IIRC.

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Never been to Swindon, although I know all about that silly away ticket situation. Probably wouldnt have been an issue had the rink been built properly.
It's nothing to do with the way the rink is built, it's a management and policy issue.

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I donno why a team wouldn't want him. Wouldn't he help with that rule I hate about having a certain number of Brits on the ice at once?
I was wrong about that rule it doesn't actually exist in the EIHL but it does in the EPIHL and below, I was just sure I had read somewhere they had it in the EIHL too.

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It's nothing to do with the way the rink is built, it's a management and policy issue.
Pretty sure if they hadnt built one side of the rink as a solid wall and instead opened it out a bit and whacked some seats in, there wouldnt be a hoo ha about saving/allocating seats for this and that.

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04-24-2012, 10:05 AM
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Pretty sure if they hadnt built one side of the rink as a solid wall and instead opened it out a bit and whacked some seats in, there wouldnt be a hoo ha about saving/allocating seats for this and that.
There are more than enough seats, it is the policy that is at fault. Away fans have to book seats in the away block (E) online or by telephone, by I think the Thursday before the game, if there are still seats available they are then opened up and sold to the schools. Then if any away fans turn up and buy tickets on the day, they make them sit downstairs.

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04-24-2012, 12:32 PM
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He should do. We tried to sign him about half way through the 10/11 season, wish he'd signed.

Theres a big pressure on Elite teams to sign a good proven import goalie, not many take chances on Brits. Hull maybe, depends on who takes them over. I hope he gives Finnerty two fingers and signs for Nottingham.
I can't see any of the top 4-5 taking their chances on a young, brit netminder who's never seen any EIHL action.

Bowns is really good, but he'll have to earn the playing time with any of the top half teams.

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This Ben Bowns talk makes me think, what is the mindset of the Brit Hockey fans? Would they rather see Ben Bowns, a homegrown goalie, in their teams net or would they rather Jussi Finlandonen, born and raised in Vaanta, Finland? Or do not give a ratsass/they just want their team win? I understand not everyone is like me and would rather watch homegrown talent (I'm the same way when it comes to my QMJHL teams).

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04-24-2012, 01:52 PM
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This Ben Bowns talk makes me think, what is the mindset of the Brit Hockey fans? Would they rather see Ben Bowns, a homegrown goalie, in their teams net or would they rather Jussi Finlandonen, born and raised in Vaanta, Finland? Or do not give a ratsass/they just want their team win? I understand not everyone is like me and would rather watch homegrown talent (I'm the same way when it comes to my QMJHL teams).
A lot of fans don't care, they just want to win and watch higher standard. Chelmsford and Romford lost a large chunk of their fanbase after dropping from the EPIHL to Division 1 because they didn't care for the lower standard, even though they went from missing the playoffs to competing for the league title. A bunch of people on THF said they would stop watching if the import levels were lowered.

Edit: It appears contradictory that more imports = more interest because the peak of hockey interest here was in BHL era back in the 80's when the highest level only had 3 or 4 imports per team, but people were spoiled by the high standard of the Super League and BNL at the turn of the century, then when those leagues collapsed the standard plummeted and people lost interest.


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This Ben Bowns talk makes me think, what is the mindset of the Brit Hockey fans? Would they rather see Ben Bowns, a homegrown goalie, in their teams net or would they rather Jussi Finlandonen, born and raised in Vaanta, Finland? Or do not give a ratsass/they just want their team win? I understand not everyone is like me and would rather watch homegrown talent (I'm the same way when it comes to my QMJHL teams).
I have no interest in England/GB, as I'm neither a nationalist nor a patriot.

However I do appreciate that funding, along with other things, tends to increase with how well the international side does.

So I'd rather players like Bowns get top positions, there by, improving dramaticaly more so then they would in lower leagues.

Amounting in GB doing well, geting higher places and hopefuly more funding for the sport here.

Ultimately I'd love to be in the position that other top Euro leagues are, where GB talent is well produced but it is not nessisary as the sport looks after itself.

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I have no interest in England/GB, as I'm neither a nationalist nor a patriot.
Nor am I but I still support the GB team, I see them more as a symbol and product of our hockey system than our country. With the vast diverse population that we have, what is "British" anyway? My favourite quote from Blackadder: "Please I'm as British as Queen Victoria!!" "So your father is German, you're half-German and you married a German?"


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I'd prefer to see a higher standard, than a league full of brits, but I do enjoy seeing the way some players develop.

Seeing guys like Thomas and Hewitt develop over the last 5-6 years has been great into the players they are today.

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This Ben Bowns talk makes me think, what is the mindset of the Brit Hockey fans? Would they rather see Ben Bowns, a homegrown goalie, in their teams net or would they rather Jussi Finlandonen, born and raised in Vaanta, Finland? Or do not give a ratsass/they just want their team win? I understand not everyone is like me and would rather watch homegrown talent (I'm the same way when it comes to my QMJHL teams).
I can only speak for myself, but I do like to see Brits develop and get more time and bigger roles, but I also want to see my team win.

I'm kinda lucky to get a bit of both with Nottingham. If Brown is near the level of the current goal tender in Nottingham I'd like to see him given a chance, if no one gives these young brits a chance then they will never develop to the potential they can reach, which hurts the development of the sport long term.

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http://www.panthers.co.uk/modules/Ne...ewNewsItem.asp

So axe the best Brit D man in GB ice hockey and sign a 35 year old Jonathon Weaver?.......Madness. #comebackhomedanny

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So axe the best Brit D man in GB ice hockey and sign a 35 year old Jonathon Weaver?.......Madness. #comebackhomedanny
Do the Bracknell fans on THF seriously think he would drop down to the EPL? mind boggling.

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Do the Bracknell fans on THF seriously think he would drop down to the EPL? mind boggling.
We can always hope

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I know the guy says he's settled in the area, but I would love to see him come up to Glasgow and play for the Clan. Always had a lot of respect for Meyers, he's a class act. Whoever signs him though is picking up a really solid player.

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So axe the best Brit D man in GB ice hockey and sign a 35 year old Jonathon Weaver?.......Madness. #comebackhomedanny
I saw it on twitter and assumed he'd been offered a chance abroad, read the article and on a panthers forum and it just seems like a complete shambles, and Meyers doesn't seen happy about it.

His family and business are both in Nottingham, so it's likely he'd want to stay close to the city, meaning sheffield would make the most sense.

damn.

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slightly OT:
Huge rangers fan studying in London, and would love to know if theres a place that would have the game tn?
big thanks
usually stream games online, but would love to see this one at a bar

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Huge rangers fan studying in London, and would love to know if theres a place that would have the game tn?
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usually stream games online, but would love to see this one at a bar
I did a quick google search for Canadian bars in London and found this:

http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/maple-leaf-london

The reviews say they show NHL.

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Huge rangers fan studying in London, and would love to know if theres a place that would have the game tn?
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usually stream games online, but would love to see this one at a bar
If you're looking for a place to watch tonight, then you might be struggling outside of casinos.

give the maple leaf a call to see if they have extended hours for the playoffs, but I think one of the Gala casinos with a sportsbar.

edit: It has been a while since i've been in London when there was a game on I wanted to see, so I'm not sure if the casino I went to still has NHL games on.

edit: just looked up http://www.thesportsmancasino.com/contacts says it shows sport and is open through til 6am you may want to contact them before going though.


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A Scotish friend of mine went to 1 game of the SNL's Aberdeen Lynx because of me. I've contributed to GB Hockey lol

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It'll be interesting to see what happens to Meyers.
I don't think the Steelers are in play even though Finnerty gets on well with Meyers.
If he wants to keep his family where they are he could sign with Coventry, I'm sure Thompson would love to have him and he would be the replacement for Weaver.

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Ben O'Connor was named the best defenseman in the Kazakhstan league

http://eurohockey.com/article/1515-b...azakhstan.html

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Ben O'Connor is a pretty good example for the argument of keeping imports in the top British Leagues. They start families there and their kids play hockey and go on to be Ben O'Connor lol

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Ben O'Connor is a pretty good example for the argument of keeping imports in the top British Leagues. They start families there and their kids play hockey and go on to be Ben O'Connor lol
The Import rule should be re-named "The Sperm catch".

If we collect enough sperm, we'll score, right?

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