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04-26-2012, 05:45 PM
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I can't see Marleau waiving his NMC for anybody really.
Perhaps you could elaborate your statement? I dont see him having a problem waiving it. Im sure there are at least 3-4 teams he would happily play for.

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Alot of people will disagree, but at this current moment, Nash for Marleau seems the most realistic scenario in DW's head IMO...
Please no. I'm not happy with Marleau, but the last thing the Sharks need is to swap him for another top-heavy player.

If Marleau is going anywhere, it's for a top-5 pick and some prospects. Otherwise we're better off keeping him.

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Perhaps you could elaborate your statement? I dont see him having a problem waiving it. Im sure there are at least 3-4 teams he would happily play for.
If he had no problem waiving it, he'd be a lot more open to it when it is brought up by the media. I don't see three to four teams that he would happily play for. I see three maybes at best.

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Agree. As much as I would enjoy Ovechkin as a Shark, it wont happen. Yea, he has had a bum year for the most part, now everyone thinks will be traded.

Marleau has sucked balls for the most part the last 2/3 years --and hes still here!
Marleau had 1 point less than Ovi this year and was a +18 better than him. How can he suck balls if Ovi doesn't as well?

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If we're moving Marleau it should be for cheaper younger forwards with speed. Not another highly paid "Star". Otherwise, you just keep Marleau.

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Marleau for Ovechkin, straight up.
Ovechkin's favorite NHL team growing up was the Sharks. Big Owen Nolan fan.

However this is not happening.

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Why would the Caps trade a marketable, funloving Ovie for the emotionless zombie that is Patrick Marleau?

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Sorry but if we can get Ovechkin on our team for anyone other than Thornton, you do it no question every day of the week.

EDIT: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what's being said.

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If Marleau is going anywhere, it's for a top-5 pick and some prospects. .
couldn't get that much

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Ovie would be a huge mistake. The guy is a complete liability defensively and tries too hard to make the individual play on offense. No thanks.


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So who you all going with in the draft.

We pick 16th right now.

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So who you all going with in the draft.

We pick 16th right now.
We use the Imperius Curse on all the GMs and Yakupov falls to us at 16th
We also need to use the Imperius on DW otherwise he would never pick a Russian.

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04-26-2012, 09:18 PM
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1st of all, fire TMac, the Detroit model hasn't worked for us (or for Detroit), and that model tends to suck the grit right out of the team. Unless we get enough speed, I wouldn't touch RW. Mike Keenan could be a risky 1 year "kick in the ass" experiment, although his system is outdated. The huge risk with that is that the ramifications of hiring him could potentially break up the team completely. Dallas Eakins of the Marlies is another guy I would recommend inquiring about. Probably the best non-NHL coach right now.

Another problem: Speed. We need to draft as much as we can. As much as Marleau is wearing me out, he and Havlat are the only speedy players on the team and there is no substitution for speed. I'd only trade him if another team overpays or gives us a couple of speedy top 6 prospects. I'd look to trading Boyle + 55th overall for a mid 1st and a couple of high-ceiling prospects. I love Boyle, but let's face it, he's getting older, and we need to try retooling on the fly, a la the Flyers (See, Burke? THIS is when you do it!). Get a head start to the inevitable rebuild.

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So who you all going with in the draft.

We pick 16th right now.
I'm hoping can get Gaunce, I've seen the kid, very impressive.

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I'm hoping can get Gaunce, I've seen the kid, very impressive.
Yes. He or Colberg. Gaunce is bigger so I probably prefer him.

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I'm hoping can get Gaunce, I've seen the kid, very impressive.
If he seriously fell to us, that would be a huge steal.

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couldn't get that much
It'll depend on a few things. If Luongo actually gets a decent amount, Marleau should get more if he actually became available.

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If he seriously fell to us, that would be a huge steal.
TSN has him at 26.

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Yes. He or Colberg. Gaunce is bigger so I probably prefer him.
Collberg is the guy I want. He's out-producing Forsberg in international competition right now. Quick, great hands, game breaker. Only knock is his size, but that was the knock on Giroux, etc. as well.

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Collberg is the guy I want. He's out-producing Forsberg in international competition right now. Quick, great hands, game breaker. Only knock is his size, but that was the knock on Giroux, etc. as well.
I'm tired of Sharks taking the safe picks. I'd rather go for a game breaker who might be a potential bust.

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Sorry but if we can get Ovechkin on our team for anyone other than Thornton, you do it no question every day of the week.

EDIT: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what's being said.
This. If we could get Ovi without loosing Thornton or Couture, of course you would do it! You would be crazy not to. He's a top 5 player in this league, even with his off year. Not to mention the $$$ he brings in and marketing value he has.


That being said its a pipe dream and there is no sense in talking about it. Might as well make a "Trade for Crosby" thread.

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I'm tired of Sharks taking the safe picks. I'd rather go for a game breaker who might be a potential bust.
Yeah. I loved the Nieto pick. We need guys who have speed and hands, guys who are dynamic and shifty. No more Doherty's or Petreckis or even Coyles.

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It'll depend on a few things. If Luongo actually gets a decent amount, Marleau should get more if he actually became available.
A team that trades for Marleau is a team that wants to compete for the Cup. That doesn't describe anyone with a top 5 pick. Those 5 want young players, not a guy that has 2 years left on a deal where he will be 35 after it's expired.

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I'm hoping can get Gaunce, I've seen the kid, very impressive.
Vote here for Gaunce, too.

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